8449Re: [GreenLeft_discussion] Re: Liberals as the main enemy etc
- Aug 18, 2004Just a few points on the Greens/SA
I dont quite buy the argument that socialists in the
Greens should hide their orientation because to
declare your socialist orientation would be to isolate
yourself within the Greens.
If there are socialists in the greens, they should be
organising and fighting for their views. I think
people can be a bit creative about this- it need not
be a statement of abstract revolutionary propaganda-
but the elabration of a practicle program of action-
like taking trade union work seriously, pushing out
into working class areas, having a pricipled position
on Iraq etc.
By working alonside people around common action points
you can demonstrate in practice what socialism means.
However, I think the whole project (if one were to
occur) needs to be one of entrism- I dont think the
Greens as a whole can be transformed into a socialist
party- but many people who are open to socialist ideas
are in the Grens. Being a socialist in the Greens
needs to be a conciouse attempt to win more people to
However, one reason why I would urge people to join
the Alliance rather than the Greens is that the forces
willing to build a consiouse socialist currentinside
the Greens dont exist- short of one developing
organically or a whole section or socialists joining
with such an express aim- I am not all that
optimistic. I wouldnt see the point in individual
socialists joining and trying to argue out their
positions on their own.
If the Alliance is to become a mass party, then it is
probably going to require large sections of the Greens
joining it. Having a large, organised socialist
current within the greens which can walk out and fuse
with an already large Socialist Alliance would be an
If someone can find ten socialists who are willing to
walk into the greens and organise as socialists- I
reckon they should give it a go. Start a little
bulletin of socialist greens- put on a few meetings-
see who agrees with you.
Having said that- the Alliance exists and it needs to
be bigger and more influential before we get whole
chunks of people splitting from the Greens or ALP,
irregardless of whether their are organised socialists
in those groupings.
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