5549Re: NSW Council election results (and Bob's geography)
- Apr 1, 2004Bob,
1. There has been public debate on this list.
2. There has been reasonable level of "sociological" discussion
about the social bases of Moore and the ALP.
4. Your argument equating Marxism with the position that because
a "large portion of blue collar workers still support labor so
should we" is absurd. No one is disputing your numbers: we just
disagree with where the tactical emphasis of socialist should be.
3. Your laughable defence of the ALP as super democratic in
comprarison to the DSP clearly contradicts your earlier assertion
that you are just a small player fighting the bureacracy in a big
soup: such assertion are hyper-internalisations of the fake
democracy of the ALP.
They speak volumes about the basis of so much of your ramblings
about "Leninism" that stem from the pre 1914 model of social
democracy. Honestly just look at the way ALP decisions get rammed
down the throat of rank and file members!
Give us a break Bob
(BTW I wonder what Dr Karl Marx would have made of your idiotic
baiting of me?)
--- In GreenLeft_discussion@yahoogroups.com, "ozleft" <ozleft@y...>
> DSP leadership drops Marxist analysis in preferencing Clover Moorerecent
> By Bob Gould
> Ben Reid adopts a slightly calmer tone than usual towards my
> contributions on the local government elections in NSW, but hecan't
> resist the abusive assertion at the end of his piece:authoritarian
> "For all his baleful insinuations about how nasty and
> the DSP and the ISO are and how all the members are zombies etcetc,
> it is Bob who is the one meekly still follows his party'sleadership
> (and the class interests it serves?) (sic).formal "freedoms"
> "The machinations of power in the ALP - for all the
> its members have - are 100 times worse than the worst excesses ofany
> Leninist party. The worst form of how this power operates is how
> activists within inevitably internalise its values."
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