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5549Re: NSW Council election results (and Bob's geography)

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  • br3068
    Apr 1, 2004
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      1. There has been public debate on this list.
      2. There has been reasonable level of "sociological" discussion
      about the social bases of Moore and the ALP.
      4. Your argument equating Marxism with the position that because
      a "large portion of blue collar workers still support labor so
      should we" is absurd. No one is disputing your numbers: we just
      disagree with where the tactical emphasis of socialist should be.
      3. Your laughable defence of the ALP as super democratic in
      comprarison to the DSP clearly contradicts your earlier assertion
      that you are just a small player fighting the bureacracy in a big
      soup: such assertion are hyper-internalisations of the fake
      democracy of the ALP.
      They speak volumes about the basis of so much of your ramblings
      about "Leninism" that stem from the pre 1914 model of social
      democracy. Honestly just look at the way ALP decisions get rammed
      down the throat of rank and file members!

      Give us a break Bob

      Ben Reid

      (BTW I wonder what Dr Karl Marx would have made of your idiotic
      baiting of me?)

      --- In GreenLeft_discussion@yahoogroups.com, "ozleft" <ozleft@y...>
      > DSP leadership drops Marxist analysis in preferencing Clover Moore
      > By Bob Gould
      > Ben Reid adopts a slightly calmer tone than usual towards my
      > contributions on the local government elections in NSW, but he
      > resist the abusive assertion at the end of his piece:
      > "For all his baleful insinuations about how nasty and
      > the DSP and the ISO are and how all the members are zombies etc
      > it is Bob who is the one meekly still follows his party's
      > (and the class interests it serves?) (sic).
      > "The machinations of power in the ALP - for all the
      formal "freedoms"
      > its members have - are 100 times worse than the worst excesses of
      > Leninist party. The worst form of how this power operates is how
      > activists within inevitably internalise its values."
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