24590Re: Comment on the dispute in the DSP leadership
- Dec 23, 2005--- In GreenLeft_discussion@yahoogroups.com, Kim B <red_april65@y...>
Why is it that those who declare that the DSP is irrelevant, the
Socialist Alliance is useless and whatever we decide doesn't make
rat's arse of difference spend so much time writing long-winded
treatises that seem to indicate otherwise. This could be perhaps
called the Gould Paradox: the more one believes the DSP is finished,
the more time and energy one spends writing ever more frequent and
longer articles about it. I'm afraid Gould et al. have become
cyber-stalkers of the DSP.
When Gould, Watermelon Ed, Adler and now Doug Jordan actually build
something of real consequence on the left we might listen. But they've
got nothing to show for it, except a strange all-consuming obsession
with the DSP and its members who cross swords with them. Just look at
the Ozleft home page.
Please Bob, Watermelon, Doug J and anybody else, show us how your
decades-long patient work deep, deep, deep within the Labor Party,
more recent anonymity within the Greens, or the Thumb-Twiddling
Federation has advanced the left in this country.
If you can't point to anything, and dear old Bob and Watermelon Ed
have refused many such requests in past (I don't know what Doug J has
achieved or has been doing for the last decade or so, but if Kim has
never heard of him, I suspect it is didley squat), I suggest you
bitter souls concentrate your precious, waning energy on achieveing
something in there rather than on crude, sectarian splitting and
>[Doug Jordan] states:
>nothing, and don't care, about looking at the vast amount of material
> "However, the vast majority of my politically active friends know
that this debate has produced. This alone should be enough to convince
people that the debate will do nothing towards the building of a
broadly based movement in defence of our rights, or building a mass
political alternative to the Liberal and Labor parties".
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