2063Re: [GreenLeft_discussion] Re Socialist Trade Union Organising Group
- Aug 17, 2003Paul, I said that the STUOG was broad based. I didn't
say it was a powerful organisation which is preparing
to put up the barricades.
As opposed to the 'farcical' Socialist Alliance:
* initiated by 8 socialist organisations, now with
around 2000 financial members and I believe (at last
30 branches, but could be more....new branches are
being formed on the Central Coast of NSW, in parts of
are being looked to in the Blue Mountains.
I'd love to meet these 2000 supposed members, or were
they just names recruited to get you electoral
8 organisations. the DSP and the neutered ISO and a
few mates, wow how could we be so wrong.
You have been building in the Blue Mountains for three
years, does it finally constitute a branch? Wow you
are now breaking up your Brisbane branches. I wonder
if the working class of Brisbane will notice?
Then again if the working class comes to power without
any involvement from the Socialist Alliance, people
like Paul will still be lauding it as a success.
* Joined by militant unionists across the country
including Chris Cain (state secretary, MUA WA), Craig
(former state secretary Victorian AMWU, leader within
the militant Workers First group), Naomi Arrowsmith
secretary Port Kembla branch of ALP and NSW CPSU
organiser), plus the likes of the best known
Humphrey Macqueen, left comedian Rod Quantock, Peggy
Trompf (workers health centre Sydney)....this is a
INADEQUATE list - across the country militant
unionists are joining SA - a recent forum in Sydney,
well built, attracted around 70 people, including
someone from a new grouping 'Construction Workers
First' which are
challening the rotten Andrew Furguson leadership of
the CFMEU in NSW - CWF are looking to join up members
Congratulations pat on the back Paul. What about other
left leaders like Martin Kingham and Bill Game, and
thousands of other left-wing workers and unionists at
varying degrees of socialist conscious who have never
heard of, or will have nothing to do with the
Socialist Alliance? How will Chris Cain fare in the WA
union movement, if he is identified with a highly
unneccessary and ultra-left challenge? Isn't that a
pure example of dividing the left?
Good to hear someone is challenging the old guard at
* SA members are leading struggles currently (I am
most familiar in Sydney) in: Tafe/PSA work; various
work of the NTEU; building rank and file opposition in
AMWU; have just run as part of successful opposition
MUA (SA member Shane Bentley receiving 44% versus
decades incumbent Robert Coombes); in the Teachers
Fed; and recently
as part of the opposition to the ABC attacks.
Paul, do you mean leading or maneuvring DSP style?
Who is attacking the Socialist Alliance? The only
thing I can think of is the BNB thing (which could
largely be avoided if the rallies were properly
Few Questions for Paul?
If you are the beacon of working class unity, why are
you rarely heard of outside the cappuccino centres of
the capital cities?
If you are so advanced and popular, why do you
continually fail to break the glass ceiling of 2% in
elections? Why are smaller left formations like the
PLP, CPA and SP scoring better in many cases? And why
can't you even beat old DSP results?
Why do the majority of organised socialists remain
Why are the Greens able to gain more from anti-war
sentiment than the Socialist Alliance despite its
domination in the organising process in some cities?
Why are Socialist Alternative able to mobilise up to
60 people to their regular public meetings?
Complete farce Paul by anyones standards.
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