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13743Re: Joshua Boyle blasts his bugle again

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  • owsky2003
    Feb 9, 2005
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      "...what exactly does Peter mean by being saying that an ALP
      government is not "for the working class" if this does not mean
      something like they "have never done anything" for them?"

      It means that they don't rule in their interests but sometimes are
      compelled to act in their intersts in order to maintain stability.

      Owen


      --- In GreenLeft_discussion@yahoogroups.com, "chen9692000"
      <chen9692000@y...> wrote:
      >
      >
      > Its always a danger to summarise someone else's views but what
      > exactly does Peter mean by being saying that an ALP government is
      > not "for the working class" if this does not mean something like
      > they "have never done anything" for them?
      >
      > Shane
      >
      > --- In GreenLeft_discussion@yahoogroups.com, "alanb1000"
      > <alanb1000@y...> wrote:
      >
      > > More Gould distortions.
      > >
      > > Compare what Gould says Peter Boyle writes with what Boyle
      actually
      > > wrote...
      >
      >
      > > "bobgould987" wrote:
      > > > In a convoluted way he says no Labor governments have ever done
      > > > anything for the working class.
      > > ...
      > > > Peter Boyle's post
      > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GreenLeft_discussion/message/13555
      > > >
      > > > >There is nothing progressive about the ALP. And as Humphrey
      > > > >McQueen argues, in its entire history not a single ALP
      > government
      > > > >could in any way be described as a government for the working
      > > > >class. Every single ALP government sought to serve and
      preserve
      > > > >capitalist rule. It is 100% a capitalist party but one with a
      > > > >historic relationship with the trade union officialdom.
      > >
      > > Boyle wrote nothing even remotely like "no Labor governments have
      > > ever done anything for the working class", that is, that no Labor
      > > government has ever introduced reforms that were in the interests
      > of
      > > working people.
      > >
      > > Why didn't Boyle write this? Because it's obviously untrue.
      > >
      > > In fact, many conservative governments have "done [things] for
      the
      > > working class" too! But even in Bob Gould's world that doesn't
      mean
      > > that they aren't 100% capitalist parties!
      > >
      > > In short, Gould's post is the same old nonsense.
      > >
      > > Alan Bradley
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