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  • Albert Levis
    Den exeis adiko Mano,arkei bebaia na exeis aftokinito giati apo proswpiki peira kserw oti ta KTEL (pou xrisimopoioun oi mi giwtaxides opws egw) stin Kriti
    Message 1 of 29 , Mar 4, 2003
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      Den exeis adiko Mano,arkei bebaia na exeis aftokinito
      giati apo proswpiki peira kserw oti ta KTEL (pou
      xrisimopoioun oi mi giwtaxides opws egw) stin Kriti
      exoun kapws periergo systima me tis antapokriseis (gia
      na paw apo ta Matala stin Agia Galini ekana peripou 4
      wres,me tis anamones stous endiamesous stathmous-oute
      sto Far West den ginontousan tetoia!
      Bebaia i dromologisi enos ploiou eksartatai kyriws apo
      tin kinisi tis grammis,opote to Rethymno pou exei
      metavallomeno traffic analoga me tis epoxes
      endexomenws den "sikwnei" polla ploia kai ef'oson gia
      pollous einai pio efkolo na pane me to aftokinito tous
      se 40 lepta sto Irakleio (edw theloume emeis tosi wra
      peripou na pame ston Peiraia apo tin Athina otan exei
      kinisi,i sto aerodromio sta Spata...) logiko einai oi
      ypoloipoi na eparkoun mono gia na gemisei ena ploio...


      --- MANOS PAPADAKIS <tritonsvkr@...> wrote:
      >
      > Ontos Albert ayto pou les einai poli dyskolo.Oson
      > afora to Rethimno efyge to
      > Arkadi kai emeine to Preveli mazi me to Aptera kai i
      > Anek ebgale to Aptera
      > logo meiomenis kinisis.Ki edo pou ta leme otan
      > yparxei ena Knossos kai
      > Festos Palace ta opoia feygoun 2 ores argotra apo
      > preveli kai ftanoun kai
      > noritera apo to Preveli sto Peiraia, ti einai 40
      > lepta dromos na ertheis sto
      > Irakleio.Ego pantos ayto tha ekana.
      >
      > Manos
      >
      >
      >
      > >From: Albert Levis <albert_levis@...>
      > >Reply-To:
      > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
      > >To:
      > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
      > >Subject: Re: [Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries]
      > Re: ������ ��� HSF ARIADNE
      > >PALACE
      > >Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 11:19:31 -0800 (PST)
      > >
      > >Kalispera Mano,
      > >
      > >Gia ta Xania ontws kserw oti ginetai enas "polemos"
      > >metaksy ANEK-MINOAN,giati einai i defteri megali
      > poli
      > >tis Kritis meta to Irakleio.Gia to Rethymno omws
      > opou
      > >ws gnwston den pigainei pleon to "ARKADI" (pou
      > >poulithike se ksenous),nomizw oti yparxei
      > prooptiki.
      > >Pantws se genikwteri basi pistevw oti mia kali idea
      > >tha itan na akoloutheitai kai sta ploia to systima
      > twn
      > >aeroporikwn etaireiwn,opou ena sygkekrimeno
      > aeroplano
      > >den eksypiretei mia mono grammi alla polles,analoga
      > me
      > >tin kinisi pou yparxei (p.x. mia ptisi
      > >Athina-Londino-Athina kai meta
      > >Athina-Dubai-Athina,klp).Dexomai bebaia oti einai
      > >dyskolo (ews akatorthwto) gia ena ploio na kanei
      > p.x.
      > >mia mera tin diadromi Peiraia-Xania kai tin epomeni
      > >tin diadromi Patra-Ancona (dioti to "positioning
      > trip"
      > >Peiraia-Patra einai poly xronovoro kai
      > polyeksodo,alla
      > >to na kanei mia diadromi p.x. Peiraia-Xania-Peiraia
      > >kai meta Peiraia-Irakleio-Peiraia i
      > >Peiraia-Rethymno-Peiraia klp einai pio efikto.En
      > pasei
      > >periptwsei,den apofasizoume emeis,alla oi
      > >efoplistes,gia to mellon twn ploiwn tous:)
      > >
      > >Albert
      > >--- MANOS PAPADAKIS <tritonsvkr@...> wrote:
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > Albert to na balei ta ploia sta xania kai to
      > > > Rethimno den nomizo oti einai
      > > > kali lisi.Edo i ANEK eixe dyo kai to Aptera to
      > > > ebgale kai to efere Iraklio
      > > > giati den yparxei kosmos kai sta xania eixe pio
      > > > palia alla den ikanopoiouse
      > > > i plirotita kai tin ekopsan.To na baloun dyo
      > ploia
      > > > se mia grammi kai na min
      > > > bgazoun ta exoda tous
      > > >
      > > > Manos
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > >From: Albert Levis <albert_levis@...>
      > > > >Reply-To:
      > > >
      > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
      > > > >To:
      > > >
      > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
      > > > >Subject: Re:
      > [Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries]
      > > > Re: ������ ��� HSF ARIADNE
      > > > >PALACE
      > > > >Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 13:19:17 -0800 (PST)
      > > > >
      > > > >Ontws poly leptomereiaki eksigisi kai
      > > > >ikanopoiitiki.Wstoso,mou kanei entypwsi oti i
      > > > Minoan
      > > > >den exei ploia stis grammes twn xaniwn kai tou
      > > > >Rethymnou,kathws episis kai sta dwdekanisa
      > (ekei
      > > > >bebaia paizoun kyriws oi dyo
      > gerasimoi-Agoudimos
      > > > kai
      > > > >Strintzis).Den tha mporouse toulaxiston ta dyo
      > > > ploia
      > > > >pou perissevan na ta valei se kapoies apo aftes
      > tis
      > > > >grammes (kyriws twn xaniwn kai rethymnou pou
      > einai
      > > > >kritikes telos pantwn)?
      > > > >
      > > > >--- "newdarklook <newdarklook2@...>"
      > > > ><newdarklook2@...> wrote:
      > > > > > To Prometheus kai to Okeanos ta eixan
      > parangili
      > > > to
      > > > > > 1999 gia na
      > > > > > dromologithoun stin grami tis Venetias. Tote
      > ta
      > > > > > pragmata pigenane
      > > > > > poli kala gia tin eteria, eixe paragili alla
      > dio
      > > > > > plia gia tin Kriti
      > > > > > (Knossos kai Festos). Ena xrono meta omos
      > > > paragile
      > > > > > alla 2 plia stin
      > > > > > Fincantieri (Olympia kai Europa) idanika
      > plia
      > > > gia
      > > > > > ton polemo me ta
      > > > > > Superfast. Otan bgieke to Prometheus pige
      > sti
      > > > > > Venetia mazi me to
      > > > > > Aretousa kai Erotokritos kai se sinexia mazi
      > me
      > > > to
      > > > > > Okeanos. Etsi
      > > > > > omos the ipirxan gia to 2002 dio Plia
      > epipleon
      > > > to
      > > > > > Ikarus kai
      > > > > > Pasiphae afou tha benanene stin Ancona to
      > > > Olympia
      > > > > > kai to Europa.
      > > > > > Ayto i minoikes to skeiftikane kala kai
      > miosane
      > > > tin
      > > > > > xorikotita ton
      > > > > > dion plion pou xtisontousan stin Korea sta
      > 200
      > > > > > krebatia gia na
      > > > > > mpoune sto mellon se alli grami
      > > > > > Patra-igoumenitsa-kerkira-teriesti
      > > > > > pou i megaliteri zitisi einai apo Ntalikes
      > olo
      > > > to
      > > > > > xrono kai pola
      > > > > > Camper to Kalokairi. Me to 2002 i Minoan
      > lines
      > > > tha
      > > > > > eixe diladi dio
      > > > > > plia stin Ancona, dio stin Venetia kai dio
      > stin
      > > > > > Teriesti. Ti allo
      > > > > > Kalitero. Ta Pragmata den pigane etsi omos,
      > > > giati
      > > > > > den brethike
      > > > > > sinfonia metaxis to limani tis Teriesti kai
      > ti
      > > > > > Minoan. Menane dio
      > > > > > plia xoris grami. Persi perimenane kai To
      > > > Ariadne
      > > > > > kai ena alo plio
      > > > > > apo ta Samsung to opio telika akirothikai.
      > > > Balane to
      > > > > > Okeanos stin
      > > > > > Tunisia se antikatastasi to Ariadne pou
      > argouse,
      > > > eki
      > > > > > pige poli kala
      > > > > > ala i Gimaldi, zitage na metaskebasti kai na
      > > > benane
      > > > > > alla 200
      > > > > > krebatia. I Minoan ebale telika to Ariadne
      > stin
      > > > > > Venetia pou eine
      > > > > > sigoura perisotero kerdoforo kai ebgale to
      > > > okeanos
      > > > > > giati den
      > > > > > diatheti xrimata gia metaskebi kai i
      > kalitera
      > > > einai
      > > > > > na poulisi ta
      > > > > > dio plia xoris grami gia na kalipsi ola ta
      > xrei
      > > > pou
      > > > > > exi me tis
      > > > > > Trapezes.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Pantos to logo gia ta 200 krebatia eitane
      > gia
      >
      === message truncated ===


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    • MANOS PAPADAKIS
      Ase pou mesa se ola pou eipame to Rethimno den exei kai to kalytero limani gia na filoxenisei kainourgia kai megalytera ploia.Oson afora ton Strintzi den
      Message 2 of 29 , Mar 5, 2003
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        Ase pou mesa se ola pou eipame to Rethimno den exei kai to kalytero limani
        gia na filoxenisei kainourgia kai megalytera ploia.Oson afora ton Strintzi
        den akousa tipota gia tin grammi tou Irakleiou.Xero oti ebale sta
        xania.Eimai fun ton minoikon alla tin exoun dei kapos kai mas xeskizoun me
        tous naylous.Olo ayxiseis einai.
        Tora Albert gia ta KTEL einai eykolo na ertheis apo to Rethimno edo eidika
        tora pou yparxoun 2 ktel me leoforeia gia Iraklio.Sta matala pou piges esy
        ti na po.Einai agoni grammi.Pisteyo oti tha ftiaxoun ta pragmata.


        Manos






        >From: Albert Levis <albert_levis@...>
        >Reply-To: Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
        >To: Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
        >Subject: Re: [Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries] Re: ������ ��� HSF ARIADNE
        >PALACE
        >Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 12:14:49 -0800 (PST)
        >
        >Den exeis adiko Mano,arkei bebaia na exeis aftokinito
        >giati apo proswpiki peira kserw oti ta KTEL (pou
        >xrisimopoioun oi mi giwtaxides opws egw) stin Kriti
        >exoun kapws periergo systima me tis antapokriseis (gia
        >na paw apo ta Matala stin Agia Galini ekana peripou 4
        >wres,me tis anamones stous endiamesous stathmous-oute
        >sto Far West den ginontousan tetoia!
        >Bebaia i dromologisi enos ploiou eksartatai kyriws apo
        >tin kinisi tis grammis,opote to Rethymno pou exei
        >metavallomeno traffic analoga me tis epoxes
        >endexomenws den "sikwnei" polla ploia kai ef'oson gia
        >pollous einai pio efkolo na pane me to aftokinito tous
        >se 40 lepta sto Irakleio (edw theloume emeis tosi wra
        >peripou na pame ston Peiraia apo tin Athina otan exei
        >kinisi,i sto aerodromio sta Spata...) logiko einai oi
        >ypoloipoi na eparkoun mono gia na gemisei ena ploio...
        >
        >
        >--- MANOS PAPADAKIS <tritonsvkr@...> wrote:
        > >
        > > Ontos Albert ayto pou les einai poli dyskolo.Oson
        > > afora to Rethimno efyge to
        > > Arkadi kai emeine to Preveli mazi me to Aptera kai i
        > > Anek ebgale to Aptera
        > > logo meiomenis kinisis.Ki edo pou ta leme otan
        > > yparxei ena Knossos kai
        > > Festos Palace ta opoia feygoun 2 ores argotra apo
        > > preveli kai ftanoun kai
        > > noritera apo to Preveli sto Peiraia, ti einai 40
        > > lepta dromos na ertheis sto
        > > Irakleio.Ego pantos ayto tha ekana.
        > >
        > > Manos
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > > >From: Albert Levis <albert_levis@...>
        > > >Reply-To:
        > > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
        > > >To:
        > > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
        > > >Subject: Re: [Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries]
        > > Re: ������ ��� HSF ARIADNE
        > > >PALACE
        > > >Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 11:19:31 -0800 (PST)
        > > >
        > > >Kalispera Mano,
        > > >
        > > >Gia ta Xania ontws kserw oti ginetai enas "polemos"
        > > >metaksy ANEK-MINOAN,giati einai i defteri megali
        > > poli
        > > >tis Kritis meta to Irakleio.Gia to Rethymno omws
        > > opou
        > > >ws gnwston den pigainei pleon to "ARKADI" (pou
        > > >poulithike se ksenous),nomizw oti yparxei
        > > prooptiki.
        > > >Pantws se genikwteri basi pistevw oti mia kali idea
        > > >tha itan na akoloutheitai kai sta ploia to systima
        > > twn
        > > >aeroporikwn etaireiwn,opou ena sygkekrimeno
        > > aeroplano
        > > >den eksypiretei mia mono grammi alla polles,analoga
        > > me
        > > >tin kinisi pou yparxei (p.x. mia ptisi
        > > >Athina-Londino-Athina kai meta
        > > >Athina-Dubai-Athina,klp).Dexomai bebaia oti einai
        > > >dyskolo (ews akatorthwto) gia ena ploio na kanei
        > > p.x.
        > > >mia mera tin diadromi Peiraia-Xania kai tin epomeni
        > > >tin diadromi Patra-Ancona (dioti to "positioning
        > > trip"
        > > >Peiraia-Patra einai poly xronovoro kai
        > > polyeksodo,alla
        > > >to na kanei mia diadromi p.x. Peiraia-Xania-Peiraia
        > > >kai meta Peiraia-Irakleio-Peiraia i
        > > >Peiraia-Rethymno-Peiraia klp einai pio efikto.En
        > > pasei
        > > >periptwsei,den apofasizoume emeis,alla oi
        > > >efoplistes,gia to mellon twn ploiwn tous:)
        > > >
        > > >Albert
        > > >--- MANOS PAPADAKIS <tritonsvkr@...> wrote:
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > > Albert to na balei ta ploia sta xania kai to
        > > > > Rethimno den nomizo oti einai
        > > > > kali lisi.Edo i ANEK eixe dyo kai to Aptera to
        > > > > ebgale kai to efere Iraklio
        > > > > giati den yparxei kosmos kai sta xania eixe pio
        > > > > palia alla den ikanopoiouse
        > > > > i plirotita kai tin ekopsan.To na baloun dyo
        > > ploia
        > > > > se mia grammi kai na min
        > > > > bgazoun ta exoda tous
        > > > >
        > > > > Manos
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > > >From: Albert Levis <albert_levis@...>
        > > > > >Reply-To:
        > > > >
        > > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
        > > > > >To:
        > > > >
        > > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
        > > > > >Subject: Re:
        > > [Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries]
        > > > > Re: ������ ��� HSF ARIADNE
        > > > > >PALACE
        > > > > >Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 13:19:17 -0800 (PST)
        > > > > >
        > > > > >Ontws poly leptomereiaki eksigisi kai
        > > > > >ikanopoiitiki.Wstoso,mou kanei entypwsi oti i
        > > > > Minoan
        > > > > >den exei ploia stis grammes twn xaniwn kai tou
        > > > > >Rethymnou,kathws episis kai sta dwdekanisa
        > > (ekei
        > > > > >bebaia paizoun kyriws oi dyo
        > > gerasimoi-Agoudimos
        > > > > kai
        > > > > >Strintzis).Den tha mporouse toulaxiston ta dyo
        > > > > ploia
        > > > > >pou perissevan na ta valei se kapoies apo aftes
        > > tis
        > > > > >grammes (kyriws twn xaniwn kai rethymnou pou
        > > einai
        > > > > >kritikes telos pantwn)?
        > > > > >
        > > > > >--- "newdarklook <newdarklook2@...>"
        > > > > ><newdarklook2@...> wrote:
        > > > > > > To Prometheus kai to Okeanos ta eixan
        > > parangili
        > > > > to
        > > > > > > 1999 gia na
        > > > > > > dromologithoun stin grami tis Venetias. Tote
        > > ta
        > > > > > > pragmata pigenane
        > > > > > > poli kala gia tin eteria, eixe paragili alla
        > > dio
        > > > > > > plia gia tin Kriti
        > > > > > > (Knossos kai Festos). Ena xrono meta omos
        > > > > paragile
        > > > > > > alla 2 plia stin
        > > > > > > Fincantieri (Olympia kai Europa) idanika
        > > plia
        > > > > gia
        > > > > > > ton polemo me ta
        > > > > > > Superfast. Otan bgieke to Prometheus pige
        > > sti
        > > > > > > Venetia mazi me to
        > > > > > > Aretousa kai Erotokritos kai se sinexia mazi
        > > me
        > > > > to
        > > > > > > Okeanos. Etsi
        > > > > > > omos the ipirxan gia to 2002 dio Plia
        > > epipleon
        > > > > to
        > > > > > > Ikarus kai
        > > > > > > Pasiphae afou tha benanene stin Ancona to
        > > > > Olympia
        > > > > > > kai to Europa.
        > > > > > > Ayto i minoikes to skeiftikane kala kai
        > > miosane
        > > > > tin
        > > > > > > xorikotita ton
        > > > > > > dion plion pou xtisontousan stin Korea sta
        > > 200
        > > > > > > krebatia gia na
        > > > > > > mpoune sto mellon se alli grami
        > > > > > > Patra-igoumenitsa-kerkira-teriesti
        > > > > > > pou i megaliteri zitisi einai apo Ntalikes
        > > olo
        > > > > to
        > > > > > > xrono kai pola
        > > > > > > Camper to Kalokairi. Me to 2002 i Minoan
        > > lines
        > > > > tha
        > > > > > > eixe diladi dio
        > > > > > > plia stin Ancona, dio stin Venetia kai dio
        > > stin
        > > > > > > Teriesti. Ti allo
        > > > > > > Kalitero. Ta Pragmata den pigane etsi omos,
        > > > > giati
        > > > > > > den brethike
        > > > > > > sinfonia metaxis to limani tis Teriesti kai
        > > ti
        > > > > > > Minoan. Menane dio
        > > > > > > plia xoris grami. Persi perimenane kai To
        > > > > Ariadne
        > > > > > > kai ena alo plio
        > > > > > > apo ta Samsung to opio telika akirothikai.
        > > > > Balane to
        > > > > > > Okeanos stin
        > > > > > > Tunisia se antikatastasi to Ariadne pou
        > > argouse,
        > > > > eki
        > > > > > > pige poli kala
        > > > > > > ala i Gimaldi, zitage na metaskebasti kai na
        > > > > benane
        > > > > > > alla 200
        > > > > > > krebatia. I Minoan ebale telika to Ariadne
        > > stin
        > > > > > > Venetia pou eine
        > > > > > > sigoura perisotero kerdoforo kai ebgale to
        > > > > okeanos
        > > > > > > giati den
        > > > > > > diatheti xrimata gia metaskebi kai i
        > > kalitera
        > > > > einai
        > > > > > > na poulisi ta
        > > > > > > dio plia xoris grami gia na kalipsi ola ta
        > > xrei
        > > > > pou
        > > > > > > exi me tis
        > > > > > > Trapezes.
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > > Pantos to logo gia ta 200 krebatia eitane
        > > gia
        > >
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        >
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      • Albert Levis
        Gia to Rethymno exw akousei kai egw oti to limani tou einai kapws retro ,malista ston EFOPLISTI eixa diavasei oti to Preveli kanei arketi wra na desei giati
        Message 3 of 29 , Mar 5, 2003
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          Gia to Rethymno exw akousei kai egw oti to limani tou
          einai kapws "retro",malista ston EFOPLISTI eixa
          diavasei oti to Preveli kanei arketi wra na desei
          giati to limani einai sxetika mikro kai i manouvra
          prepei na ginei siga-siga.
          Sxetika me ton Strintzi,nomizw oti exeis dikio kai oti
          to Blue Star 2 pigainei sta xania kai oxi sto
          irakleio.Profanws mperdeftika epeidi to exw dei
          mia-dyo fores ston peiraia na peftei se destres opou
          synithws pane ta ploia gia Irakleio (genikws ginetai
          enas psiloxamos stin provlita pou pane ta ploia twn
          kritikwn dromologiwn alla eftyxws oudepote exasa ploio
          gia kriti eksaitias aftou tou gegonotos).Gia tous
          navlous,persi to kalokairi sti diadromi Patra-Kerkyra
          plirwsa 22 euro stin minoan (me to Ikaros Palace) enw
          gia Kekryra-Patra me to blue sky tou strintzi plirwsa
          19,27.Profanws tha eprepe i minoan na valei sta
          fougara twn ploiwn tis kai ton prasino stavro pou
          exoun ap'eksw ta farmakeia xexe.
          Telos,apo oso kserw,ta Matala kai i Agia Galini einai
          touristika meri kai toulaxiston to kalokairi tha
          eprepe na exoun apeftheias sygkoinwnia an mi ti allo
          me to Irakleio kai oxi apo to Irakleio na katevaineis
          stis Moires kai na perimeneis mia wra na erthei to
          allo lewforeio na se paei stin faisto kai apo ekei
          allo na se katevasei sta Matala.Elpizw pws ta pragmata
          tha exoun ftiaksei twra,giati gia fetos to kalokairi
          eksetazw kai to endexomeno na katevw sto Vai.

          --- MANOS PAPADAKIS <tritonsvkr@...> wrote:
          > Ase pou mesa se ola pou eipame to Rethimno den exei
          > kai to kalytero limani
          > gia na filoxenisei kainourgia kai megalytera
          > ploia.Oson afora ton Strintzi
          > den akousa tipota gia tin grammi tou Irakleiou.Xero
          > oti ebale sta
          > xania.Eimai fun ton minoikon alla tin exoun dei
          > kapos kai mas xeskizoun me
          > tous naylous.Olo ayxiseis einai.
          > Tora Albert gia ta KTEL einai eykolo na ertheis apo
          > to Rethimno edo eidika
          > tora pou yparxoun 2 ktel me leoforeia gia
          > Iraklio.Sta matala pou piges esy
          > ti na po.Einai agoni grammi.Pisteyo oti tha ftiaxoun
          > ta pragmata.
          >
          >
          > Manos
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          > >From: Albert Levis <albert_levis@...>
          > >Reply-To:
          > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
          > >To:
          > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
          > >Subject: Re: [Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries]
          > Re: ������ ��� HSF ARIADNE
          > >PALACE
          > >Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 12:14:49 -0800 (PST)
          > >
          > >Den exeis adiko Mano,arkei bebaia na exeis
          > aftokinito
          > >giati apo proswpiki peira kserw oti ta KTEL (pou
          > >xrisimopoioun oi mi giwtaxides opws egw) stin Kriti
          > >exoun kapws periergo systima me tis antapokriseis
          > (gia
          > >na paw apo ta Matala stin Agia Galini ekana peripou
          > 4
          > >wres,me tis anamones stous endiamesous
          > stathmous-oute
          > >sto Far West den ginontousan tetoia!
          > >Bebaia i dromologisi enos ploiou eksartatai kyriws
          > apo
          > >tin kinisi tis grammis,opote to Rethymno pou exei
          > >metavallomeno traffic analoga me tis epoxes
          > >endexomenws den "sikwnei" polla ploia kai ef'oson
          > gia
          > >pollous einai pio efkolo na pane me to aftokinito
          > tous
          > >se 40 lepta sto Irakleio (edw theloume emeis tosi
          > wra
          > >peripou na pame ston Peiraia apo tin Athina otan
          > exei
          > >kinisi,i sto aerodromio sta Spata...) logiko einai
          > oi
          > >ypoloipoi na eparkoun mono gia na gemisei ena
          > ploio...
          > >
          > >
          > >--- MANOS PAPADAKIS <tritonsvkr@...> wrote:
          > > >
          > > > Ontos Albert ayto pou les einai poli
          > dyskolo.Oson
          > > > afora to Rethimno efyge to
          > > > Arkadi kai emeine to Preveli mazi me to Aptera
          > kai i
          > > > Anek ebgale to Aptera
          > > > logo meiomenis kinisis.Ki edo pou ta leme otan
          > > > yparxei ena Knossos kai
          > > > Festos Palace ta opoia feygoun 2 ores argotra
          > apo
          > > > preveli kai ftanoun kai
          > > > noritera apo to Preveli sto Peiraia, ti einai 40
          > > > lepta dromos na ertheis sto
          > > > Irakleio.Ego pantos ayto tha ekana.
          > > >
          > > > Manos
          > > >
          > > >
          > > >
          > > > >From: Albert Levis <albert_levis@...>
          > > > >Reply-To:
          > > >
          > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
          > > > >To:
          > > >
          > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
          > > > >Subject: Re:
          > [Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries]
          > > > Re: ������ ��� HSF ARIADNE
          > > > >PALACE
          > > > >Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 11:19:31 -0800 (PST)
          > > > >
          > > > >Kalispera Mano,
          > > > >
          > > > >Gia ta Xania ontws kserw oti ginetai enas
          > "polemos"
          > > > >metaksy ANEK-MINOAN,giati einai i defteri
          > megali
          > > > poli
          > > > >tis Kritis meta to Irakleio.Gia to Rethymno
          > omws
          > > > opou
          > > > >ws gnwston den pigainei pleon to "ARKADI" (pou
          > > > >poulithike se ksenous),nomizw oti yparxei
          > > > prooptiki.
          > > > >Pantws se genikwteri basi pistevw oti mia kali
          > idea
          > > > >tha itan na akoloutheitai kai sta ploia to
          > systima
          > > > twn
          > > > >aeroporikwn etaireiwn,opou ena sygkekrimeno
          > > > aeroplano
          > > > >den eksypiretei mia mono grammi alla
          > polles,analoga
          > > > me
          > > > >tin kinisi pou yparxei (p.x. mia ptisi
          > > > >Athina-Londino-Athina kai meta
          > > > >Athina-Dubai-Athina,klp).Dexomai bebaia oti
          > einai
          > > > >dyskolo (ews akatorthwto) gia ena ploio na
          > kanei
          > > > p.x.
          > > > >mia mera tin diadromi Peiraia-Xania kai tin
          > epomeni
          > > > >tin diadromi Patra-Ancona (dioti to
          > "positioning
          > > > trip"
          > > > >Peiraia-Patra einai poly xronovoro kai
          > > > polyeksodo,alla
          > > > >to na kanei mia diadromi p.x.
          > Peiraia-Xania-Peiraia
          > > > >kai meta Peiraia-Irakleio-Peiraia i
          > > > >Peiraia-Rethymno-Peiraia klp einai pio
          > efikto.En
          > > > pasei
          > > > >periptwsei,den apofasizoume emeis,alla oi
          > > > >efoplistes,gia to mellon twn ploiwn tous:)
          > > > >
          > > > >Albert
          > > > >--- MANOS PAPADAKIS <tritonsvkr@...>
          > wrote:
          > > > > >
          > > > > >
          > > > > > Albert to na balei ta ploia sta xania kai to
          > > > > > Rethimno den nomizo oti einai
          > > > > > kali lisi.Edo i ANEK eixe dyo kai to Aptera
          > to
          > > > > > ebgale kai to efere Iraklio
          > > > > > giati den yparxei kosmos kai sta xania eixe
          > pio
          > > > > > palia alla den ikanopoiouse
          > > > > > i plirotita kai tin ekopsan.To na baloun dyo
          > > > ploia
          > > > > > se mia grammi kai na min
          > > > > > bgazoun ta exoda tous
          > > > > >
          > > > > > Manos
          > > > > >
          > > > > >
          > > > > >
          > > > > >
          > > > > > >From: Albert Levis <albert_levis@...>
          > > > > > >Reply-To:
          > > > > >
          > > >
          > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
          > > > > > >To:
          > > > > >
          > > >
          > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
          > > > > > >Subject: Re:
          > > > [Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries]
          > > > > > Re: ������ ��� HSF ARIADNE
          > > > > > >PALACE
          > > > > > >Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 13:19:17 -0800 (PST)
          > > > > > >
          > > > > > >Ontws poly leptomereiaki eksigisi kai
          > > > > > >ikanopoiitiki.Wstoso,mou kanei entypwsi oti
          > i
          > > > > > Minoan
          > > > > > >den exei ploia stis grammes twn xaniwn kai
          > tou
          > > > > > >Rethymnou,kathws episis kai sta dwdekanisa
          > > > (ekei
          > > > > > >bebaia paizoun kyriws oi dyo
          > > > gerasimoi-Agoudimos
          > > > > > kai
          > > > > > >Strintzis).Den tha mporouse toulaxiston ta
          > dyo
          > > > > > ploia
          > > > > > >pou perissevan na ta valei se kapoies apo
          > aftes
          > > > tis
          > > > > > >grammes (kyriws twn xaniwn kai rethymnou
          > pou
          > > > einai
          >
          === message truncated ===


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        • MANOS PAPADAKIS
          Pisteyo oti tha erthei kairos pou tha anagastoun na katevasoun tis times.Ego thelo na thixo kai ena allo thema.Einai dynaton ploia san to Festos kai Knossos
          Message 4 of 29 , Mar 7, 2003
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            Pisteyo oti tha erthei kairos pou tha anagastoun na katevasoun tis times.Ego
            thelo na thixo kai ena allo thema.Einai dynaton ploia san to Festos kai
            Knossos palace na kathontai s ena limani epeidi o aeras einai 8 mpofor kai
            apo tin patra na feygoun kanonika kai na min ta pianei apagoreytiko, episis
            kai kati krouazieroploia tipou Stella Oceanis na taxideyoun synexeia?






            >From: Albert Levis <albert_levis@...>
            >Reply-To: Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
            >To: Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
            >Subject: Re: [Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries] Re: ������ ��� HSF ARIADNE
            >PALACE
            >Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 13:41:33 -0800 (PST)
            >
            >Gia to Rethymno exw akousei kai egw oti to limani tou
            >einai kapws "retro",malista ston EFOPLISTI eixa
            >diavasei oti to Preveli kanei arketi wra na desei
            >giati to limani einai sxetika mikro kai i manouvra
            >prepei na ginei siga-siga.
            >Sxetika me ton Strintzi,nomizw oti exeis dikio kai oti
            >to Blue Star 2 pigainei sta xania kai oxi sto
            >irakleio.Profanws mperdeftika epeidi to exw dei
            >mia-dyo fores ston peiraia na peftei se destres opou
            >synithws pane ta ploia gia Irakleio (genikws ginetai
            >enas psiloxamos stin provlita pou pane ta ploia twn
            >kritikwn dromologiwn alla eftyxws oudepote exasa ploio
            >gia kriti eksaitias aftou tou gegonotos).Gia tous
            >navlous,persi to kalokairi sti diadromi Patra-Kerkyra
            >plirwsa 22 euro stin minoan (me to Ikaros Palace) enw
            >gia Kekryra-Patra me to blue sky tou strintzi plirwsa
            >19,27.Profanws tha eprepe i minoan na valei sta
            >fougara twn ploiwn tis kai ton prasino stavro pou
            >exoun ap'eksw ta farmakeia xexe.
            >Telos,apo oso kserw,ta Matala kai i Agia Galini einai
            >touristika meri kai toulaxiston to kalokairi tha
            >eprepe na exoun apeftheias sygkoinwnia an mi ti allo
            >me to Irakleio kai oxi apo to Irakleio na katevaineis
            >stis Moires kai na perimeneis mia wra na erthei to
            >allo lewforeio na se paei stin faisto kai apo ekei
            >allo na se katevasei sta Matala.Elpizw pws ta pragmata
            >tha exoun ftiaksei twra,giati gia fetos to kalokairi
            >eksetazw kai to endexomeno na katevw sto Vai.
            >
            >--- MANOS PAPADAKIS <tritonsvkr@...> wrote:
            > > Ase pou mesa se ola pou eipame to Rethimno den exei
            > > kai to kalytero limani
            > > gia na filoxenisei kainourgia kai megalytera
            > > ploia.Oson afora ton Strintzi
            > > den akousa tipota gia tin grammi tou Irakleiou.Xero
            > > oti ebale sta
            > > xania.Eimai fun ton minoikon alla tin exoun dei
            > > kapos kai mas xeskizoun me
            > > tous naylous.Olo ayxiseis einai.
            > > Tora Albert gia ta KTEL einai eykolo na ertheis apo
            > > to Rethimno edo eidika
            > > tora pou yparxoun 2 ktel me leoforeia gia
            > > Iraklio.Sta matala pou piges esy
            > > ti na po.Einai agoni grammi.Pisteyo oti tha ftiaxoun
            > > ta pragmata.
            > >
            > >
            > > Manos
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > > >From: Albert Levis <albert_levis@...>
            > > >Reply-To:
            > > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
            > > >To:
            > > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
            > > >Subject: Re: [Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries]
            > > Re: ������ ��� HSF ARIADNE
            > > >PALACE
            > > >Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 12:14:49 -0800 (PST)
            > > >
            > > >Den exeis adiko Mano,arkei bebaia na exeis
            > > aftokinito
            > > >giati apo proswpiki peira kserw oti ta KTEL (pou
            > > >xrisimopoioun oi mi giwtaxides opws egw) stin Kriti
            > > >exoun kapws periergo systima me tis antapokriseis
            > > (gia
            > > >na paw apo ta Matala stin Agia Galini ekana peripou
            > > 4
            > > >wres,me tis anamones stous endiamesous
            > > stathmous-oute
            > > >sto Far West den ginontousan tetoia!
            > > >Bebaia i dromologisi enos ploiou eksartatai kyriws
            > > apo
            > > >tin kinisi tis grammis,opote to Rethymno pou exei
            > > >metavallomeno traffic analoga me tis epoxes
            > > >endexomenws den "sikwnei" polla ploia kai ef'oson
            > > gia
            > > >pollous einai pio efkolo na pane me to aftokinito
            > > tous
            > > >se 40 lepta sto Irakleio (edw theloume emeis tosi
            > > wra
            > > >peripou na pame ston Peiraia apo tin Athina otan
            > > exei
            > > >kinisi,i sto aerodromio sta Spata...) logiko einai
            > > oi
            > > >ypoloipoi na eparkoun mono gia na gemisei ena
            > > ploio...
            > > >
            > > >
            > > >--- MANOS PAPADAKIS <tritonsvkr@...> wrote:
            > > > >
            > > > > Ontos Albert ayto pou les einai poli
            > > dyskolo.Oson
            > > > > afora to Rethimno efyge to
            > > > > Arkadi kai emeine to Preveli mazi me to Aptera
            > > kai i
            > > > > Anek ebgale to Aptera
            > > > > logo meiomenis kinisis.Ki edo pou ta leme otan
            > > > > yparxei ena Knossos kai
            > > > > Festos Palace ta opoia feygoun 2 ores argotra
            > > apo
            > > > > preveli kai ftanoun kai
            > > > > noritera apo to Preveli sto Peiraia, ti einai 40
            > > > > lepta dromos na ertheis sto
            > > > > Irakleio.Ego pantos ayto tha ekana.
            > > > >
            > > > > Manos
            > > > >
            > > > >
            > > > >
            > > > > >From: Albert Levis <albert_levis@...>
            > > > > >Reply-To:
            > > > >
            > > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
            > > > > >To:
            > > > >
            > > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
            > > > > >Subject: Re:
            > > [Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries]
            > > > > Re: ������ ��� HSF ARIADNE
            > > > > >PALACE
            > > > > >Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 11:19:31 -0800 (PST)
            > > > > >
            > > > > >Kalispera Mano,
            > > > > >
            > > > > >Gia ta Xania ontws kserw oti ginetai enas
            > > "polemos"
            > > > > >metaksy ANEK-MINOAN,giati einai i defteri
            > > megali
            > > > > poli
            > > > > >tis Kritis meta to Irakleio.Gia to Rethymno
            > > omws
            > > > > opou
            > > > > >ws gnwston den pigainei pleon to "ARKADI" (pou
            > > > > >poulithike se ksenous),nomizw oti yparxei
            > > > > prooptiki.
            > > > > >Pantws se genikwteri basi pistevw oti mia kali
            > > idea
            > > > > >tha itan na akoloutheitai kai sta ploia to
            > > systima
            > > > > twn
            > > > > >aeroporikwn etaireiwn,opou ena sygkekrimeno
            > > > > aeroplano
            > > > > >den eksypiretei mia mono grammi alla
            > > polles,analoga
            > > > > me
            > > > > >tin kinisi pou yparxei (p.x. mia ptisi
            > > > > >Athina-Londino-Athina kai meta
            > > > > >Athina-Dubai-Athina,klp).Dexomai bebaia oti
            > > einai
            > > > > >dyskolo (ews akatorthwto) gia ena ploio na
            > > kanei
            > > > > p.x.
            > > > > >mia mera tin diadromi Peiraia-Xania kai tin
            > > epomeni
            > > > > >tin diadromi Patra-Ancona (dioti to
            > > "positioning
            > > > > trip"
            > > > > >Peiraia-Patra einai poly xronovoro kai
            > > > > polyeksodo,alla
            > > > > >to na kanei mia diadromi p.x.
            > > Peiraia-Xania-Peiraia
            > > > > >kai meta Peiraia-Irakleio-Peiraia i
            > > > > >Peiraia-Rethymno-Peiraia klp einai pio
            > > efikto.En
            > > > > pasei
            > > > > >periptwsei,den apofasizoume emeis,alla oi
            > > > > >efoplistes,gia to mellon twn ploiwn tous:)
            > > > > >
            > > > > >Albert
            > > > > >--- MANOS PAPADAKIS <tritonsvkr@...>
            > > wrote:
            > > > > > >
            > > > > > >
            > > > > > > Albert to na balei ta ploia sta xania kai to
            > > > > > > Rethimno den nomizo oti einai
            > > > > > > kali lisi.Edo i ANEK eixe dyo kai to Aptera
            > > to
            > > > > > > ebgale kai to efere Iraklio
            > > > > > > giati den yparxei kosmos kai sta xania eixe
            > > pio
            > > > > > > palia alla den ikanopoiouse
            > > > > > > i plirotita kai tin ekopsan.To na baloun dyo
            > > > > ploia
            > > > > > > se mia grammi kai na min
            > > > > > > bgazoun ta exoda tous
            > > > > > >
            > > > > > > Manos
            > > > > > >
            > > > > > >
            > > > > > >
            > > > > > >
            > > > > > > >From: Albert Levis <albert_levis@...>
            > > > > > > >Reply-To:
            > > > > > >
            > > > >
            > > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
            > > > > > > >To:
            > > > > > >
            > > > >
            > > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
            > > > > > > >Subject: Re:
            > > > > [Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries]
            > > > > > > Re: ������ ��� HSF ARIADNE
            > > > > > > >PALACE
            > > > > > > >Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 13:19:17 -0800 (PST)
            > > > > > > >
            > > > > > > >Ontws poly leptomereiaki eksigisi kai
            > > > > > > >ikanopoiitiki.Wstoso,mou kanei entypwsi oti
            > > i
            > > > > > > Minoan
            > > > > > > >den exei ploia stis grammes twn xaniwn kai
            > > tou
            > > > > > > >Rethymnou,kathws episis kai sta dwdekanisa
            > > > > (ekei
            > > > > > > >bebaia paizoun kyriws oi dyo
            > > > > gerasimoi-Agoudimos
            > > > > > > kai
            > > > > > > >Strintzis).Den tha mporouse toulaxiston ta
            > > dyo
            > > > > > > ploia
            > > > > > > >pou perissevan na ta valei se kapoies apo
            > > aftes
            > > > > tis
            > > > > > > >grammes (kyriws twn xaniwn kai rethymnou
            > > pou
            > > > > einai
            > >
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            >
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          • newdarklook
            Sinithos, to knossos kai festos mazi me ta blue star einai ta mona pou taxideboun otan eiparxi apagoreftiko. Opos xerete, ola kinounte giro apo ta xrimata. I
            Message 5 of 29 , Mar 8, 2003
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              Sinithos, to knossos kai festos mazi me ta blue star einai ta mona
              pou taxideboun otan eiparxi apagoreftiko.
              Opos xerete, ola kinounte giro apo ta xrimata.
              I zimia pou dimourgite ama ena plio san ena souperfast pou pai
              Italia meni demeno mia mera, einai terastia se sxesi me ena knossos
              pou pai Iraklio.


              alex
            • Albert Levis
              Prin ligo diavasa ena minima tou Alex pou elege oti ta Knossos kai festos mazi me ta blue star einai ta mona pou taksidevoun otan exei apagoreftiko.Pantws exe
              Message 6 of 29 , Mar 8, 2003
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                Prin ligo diavasa ena minima tou Alex pou elege oti ta
                Knossos kai festos mazi me ta blue star einai ta mona
                pou taksidevoun otan exei apagoreftiko.Pantws exe
                ypopsin sou oti to Ionio kai i Adriatiki einai pio
                kleisti thalassa apo to Aigaio kai epomenws ena oktari
                den exei tis idies epiptwseis (den paragei ton idio
                kymatismo).Afto simainei pws sto men Ionio mporeis na
                pas kai me 8 bofor (me megalo ploio fysika,oxi me to
                Dimitrios Moiras pou pigaine Kyllini-Zakyntho...) sto
                de Aigaio isws akoma kai ta megala ploia na synantoun
                dyskolies.Oso gia ta krouazieroploia san to Stella
                Oceanis (pou einai mikro ontws) den kserw pws ta
                katafernoun.Pantws to sygkekrimeno (Stella Oceanis) to
                exw dei xeimwniatika prymnodetimeno (kai oxi
                plagiodetimeno pou simainei oti etoimazetai gia
                krouaziera) stou Tzelepi mazi me ta alla pou kanoun
                xeimerini akinisia.

                --- MANOS PAPADAKIS <tritonsvkr@...> wrote:
                > Pisteyo oti tha erthei kairos pou tha anagastoun na
                > katevasoun tis times.Ego
                > thelo na thixo kai ena allo thema.Einai dynaton
                > ploia san to Festos kai
                > Knossos palace na kathontai s ena limani epeidi o
                > aeras einai 8 mpofor kai
                > apo tin patra na feygoun kanonika kai na min ta
                > pianei apagoreytiko, episis
                > kai kati krouazieroploia tipou Stella Oceanis na
                > taxideyoun synexeia?
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                > >From: Albert Levis <albert_levis@...>
                > >Reply-To:
                > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
                > >To:
                > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
                > >Subject: Re: [Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries]
                > Re: ������ ��� HSF ARIADNE
                > >PALACE
                > >Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 13:41:33 -0800 (PST)
                > >
                > >Gia to Rethymno exw akousei kai egw oti to limani
                > tou
                > >einai kapws "retro",malista ston EFOPLISTI eixa
                > >diavasei oti to Preveli kanei arketi wra na desei
                > >giati to limani einai sxetika mikro kai i manouvra
                > >prepei na ginei siga-siga.
                > >Sxetika me ton Strintzi,nomizw oti exeis dikio kai
                > oti
                > >to Blue Star 2 pigainei sta xania kai oxi sto
                > >irakleio.Profanws mperdeftika epeidi to exw dei
                > >mia-dyo fores ston peiraia na peftei se destres
                > opou
                > >synithws pane ta ploia gia Irakleio (genikws
                > ginetai
                > >enas psiloxamos stin provlita pou pane ta ploia twn
                > >kritikwn dromologiwn alla eftyxws oudepote exasa
                > ploio
                > >gia kriti eksaitias aftou tou gegonotos).Gia tous
                > >navlous,persi to kalokairi sti diadromi
                > Patra-Kerkyra
                > >plirwsa 22 euro stin minoan (me to Ikaros Palace)
                > enw
                > >gia Kekryra-Patra me to blue sky tou strintzi
                > plirwsa
                > >19,27.Profanws tha eprepe i minoan na valei sta
                > >fougara twn ploiwn tis kai ton prasino stavro pou
                > >exoun ap'eksw ta farmakeia xexe.
                > >Telos,apo oso kserw,ta Matala kai i Agia Galini
                > einai
                > >touristika meri kai toulaxiston to kalokairi tha
                > >eprepe na exoun apeftheias sygkoinwnia an mi ti
                > allo
                > >me to Irakleio kai oxi apo to Irakleio na
                > katevaineis
                > >stis Moires kai na perimeneis mia wra na erthei to
                > >allo lewforeio na se paei stin faisto kai apo ekei
                > >allo na se katevasei sta Matala.Elpizw pws ta
                > pragmata
                > >tha exoun ftiaksei twra,giati gia fetos to
                > kalokairi
                > >eksetazw kai to endexomeno na katevw sto Vai.
                > >
                > >--- MANOS PAPADAKIS <tritonsvkr@...> wrote:
                > > > Ase pou mesa se ola pou eipame to Rethimno den
                > exei
                > > > kai to kalytero limani
                > > > gia na filoxenisei kainourgia kai megalytera
                > > > ploia.Oson afora ton Strintzi
                > > > den akousa tipota gia tin grammi tou
                > Irakleiou.Xero
                > > > oti ebale sta
                > > > xania.Eimai fun ton minoikon alla tin exoun dei
                > > > kapos kai mas xeskizoun me
                > > > tous naylous.Olo ayxiseis einai.
                > > > Tora Albert gia ta KTEL einai eykolo na ertheis
                > apo
                > > > to Rethimno edo eidika
                > > > tora pou yparxoun 2 ktel me leoforeia gia
                > > > Iraklio.Sta matala pou piges esy
                > > > ti na po.Einai agoni grammi.Pisteyo oti tha
                > ftiaxoun
                > > > ta pragmata.
                > > >
                > > >
                > > > Manos
                > > >
                > > >
                > > >
                > > >
                > > >
                > > >
                > > > >From: Albert Levis <albert_levis@...>
                > > > >Reply-To:
                > > >
                > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
                > > > >To:
                > > >
                > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
                > > > >Subject: Re:
                > [Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries]
                > > > Re: ������ ��� HSF ARIADNE
                > > > >PALACE
                > > > >Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 12:14:49 -0800 (PST)
                > > > >
                > > > >Den exeis adiko Mano,arkei bebaia na exeis
                > > > aftokinito
                > > > >giati apo proswpiki peira kserw oti ta KTEL
                > (pou
                > > > >xrisimopoioun oi mi giwtaxides opws egw) stin
                > Kriti
                > > > >exoun kapws periergo systima me tis
                > antapokriseis
                > > > (gia
                > > > >na paw apo ta Matala stin Agia Galini ekana
                > peripou
                > > > 4
                > > > >wres,me tis anamones stous endiamesous
                > > > stathmous-oute
                > > > >sto Far West den ginontousan tetoia!
                > > > >Bebaia i dromologisi enos ploiou eksartatai
                > kyriws
                > > > apo
                > > > >tin kinisi tis grammis,opote to Rethymno pou
                > exei
                > > > >metavallomeno traffic analoga me tis epoxes
                > > > >endexomenws den "sikwnei" polla ploia kai
                > ef'oson
                > > > gia
                > > > >pollous einai pio efkolo na pane me to
                > aftokinito
                > > > tous
                > > > >se 40 lepta sto Irakleio (edw theloume emeis
                > tosi
                > > > wra
                > > > >peripou na pame ston Peiraia apo tin Athina
                > otan
                > > > exei
                > > > >kinisi,i sto aerodromio sta Spata...) logiko
                > einai
                > > > oi
                > > > >ypoloipoi na eparkoun mono gia na gemisei ena
                > > > ploio...
                > > > >
                > > > >
                > > > >--- MANOS PAPADAKIS <tritonsvkr@...>
                > wrote:
                > > > > >
                > > > > > Ontos Albert ayto pou les einai poli
                > > > dyskolo.Oson
                > > > > > afora to Rethimno efyge to
                > > > > > Arkadi kai emeine to Preveli mazi me to
                > Aptera
                > > > kai i
                > > > > > Anek ebgale to Aptera
                > > > > > logo meiomenis kinisis.Ki edo pou ta leme
                > otan
                > > > > > yparxei ena Knossos kai
                > > > > > Festos Palace ta opoia feygoun 2 ores
                > argotra
                > > > apo
                > > > > > preveli kai ftanoun kai
                > > > > > noritera apo to Preveli sto Peiraia, ti
                > einai 40
                > > > > > lepta dromos na ertheis sto
                > > > > > Irakleio.Ego pantos ayto tha ekana.
                > > > > >
                > > > > > Manos
                > > > > >
                > > > > >
                > > > > >
                > > > > > >From: Albert Levis <albert_levis@...>
                > > > > > >Reply-To:
                > > > > >
                > > >
                > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
                > > > > > >To:
                > > > > >
                > > >
                > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
                > > > > > >Subject: Re:
                > > > [Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries]
                > > > > > Re: ������ ��� HSF ARIADNE
                > > > > > >PALACE
                > > > > > >Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 11:19:31 -0800 (PST)
                > > > > > >
                > > > > > >Kalispera Mano,
                > > > > > >
                > > > > > >Gia ta Xania ontws kserw oti ginetai enas
                > > > "polemos"
                > > > > > >metaksy ANEK-MINOAN,giati einai i defteri
                > > > megali
                > > > > > poli
                > > > > > >tis Kritis meta to Irakleio.Gia to Rethymno
                > > > omws
                > > > > > opou
                >
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              • GIANI MITAKIDI
                KALI SARAKOSTI SE OLOUS LIPAMAI, DEN DIABASA TO PROIGOUMENO SXOLIO GIA NA KATALABO, ALLA MOU KANEI ENTIPOSI. 1. IDIES APOSTASEIS 2. TO IRAKLIO , EXEI
                Message 7 of 29 , Mar 8, 2003
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                  KALI SARAKOSTI SE OLOUS

                  LIPAMAI, DEN DIABASA TO PROIGOUMENO SXOLIO GIA NA KATALABO, ALLA MOU
                  KANEI ENTIPOSI.

                  1. IDIES APOSTASEIS
                  2. TO IRAKLIO , EXEI MEGALITEROUS NAVLOUS APO TO BRINDISI

                  GIATI TO SUPERFAST, THA EXEI TERASTIA ZIMIA EAN DEN FIGI SE SXETIKO
                  APAGOREFTIKO??

                  ( YPOTITHETE OTI SYNGRINETE ISES APOSTASEIS METAKSY LIMENON, KAI
                  ENNOEITE TO NEO KNOSSOS PALACE TON MINOIKON?)

                  XAIRETISMOUS


                  --- newdarklook <newdarklook2@...> wrote:
                  > Sinithos, to knossos kai festos mazi me ta blue star einai ta mona
                  > pou taxideboun otan eiparxi apagoreftiko.
                  > Opos xerete, ola kinounte giro apo ta xrimata.
                  > I zimia pou dimourgite ama ena plio san ena souperfast pou pai
                  > Italia meni demeno mia mera, einai terastia se sxesi me ena knossos
                  >
                  > pou pai Iraklio.
                  >
                  >
                  > alex
                  >
                  >
                  >


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                • Albert Levis
                  Gianni kalispera Nomizw oti i apostasi peiraia-irakleio einai mikroteri apo tin apostasi Patra-Brindisi.Profanws episis einai mikroteri apo tin apostasi
                  Message 8 of 29 , Mar 9, 2003
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                    Gianni kalispera

                    Nomizw oti i apostasi peiraia-irakleio einai mikroteri
                    apo tin apostasi Patra-Brindisi.Profanws episis einai
                    mikroteri apo tin apostasi Patra-Venetia.

                    Sto brindisi pigainoun kai ploia allwn etaireiwn ektos
                    minoan kai anek (ta superfast,ta blue ferries,-an kai
                    aftes oi dyo etaireies einai synergazomenes- kapoia
                    tou ventouri kai to egitto express tis adriatica)
                    opote den pairnei na vazoun oi minwikes o,ti navlous
                    theloun,se antithesi me to Irakleio opou mexri
                    protinos pigainan mono oi kritikes (apo fetos pigainei
                    kai to blue star 2 tou strintzi).

                    Tin diadromi Patra-Italia den tin kanoun mono osoi
                    proorizontai gia tin sygkekrimeni xwra,alla kai osoi
                    synexizoun apo ekei odikws i sidirodromikws gia tin
                    ypoloipi evrwpi,apofevgontas etsi tin diadromi mesw
                    tis yougoslavias (pou kai ypodomes den exei kai
                    epikindyni einai logw tis politikis
                    katastasis).Synepws ta ploia afta exoun megales
                    plirotites akoma kai mesa sto kataxeimwno,se antithesi
                    me tis grammes tis kritis opou ton xeimwna (opote
                    ekdidontai synithws ta apagoreftika) den taksidevei
                    toso polys kosmos.

                    To ypo syzitisin knwssos einai ontws to knwssos
                    palace.Ta dyo proigoumena ploia me ta idia onomata
                    (Knwssos kai Faistos) exoun pro etwn poulithei.

                    --- GIANI MITAKIDI <mbrosgr@...> wrote:
                    > KALI SARAKOSTI SE OLOUS
                    >
                    > LIPAMAI, DEN DIABASA TO PROIGOUMENO SXOLIO GIA NA
                    > KATALABO, ALLA MOU
                    > KANEI ENTIPOSI.
                    >
                    > 1. IDIES APOSTASEIS
                    > 2. TO IRAKLIO , EXEI MEGALITEROUS NAVLOUS APO TO
                    > BRINDISI
                    >
                    > GIATI TO SUPERFAST, THA EXEI TERASTIA ZIMIA EAN DEN
                    > FIGI SE SXETIKO
                    > APAGOREFTIKO??
                    >
                    > ( YPOTITHETE OTI SYNGRINETE ISES APOSTASEIS METAKSY
                    > LIMENON, KAI
                    > ENNOEITE TO NEO KNOSSOS PALACE TON MINOIKON?)
                    >
                    > XAIRETISMOUS
                    >
                    >
                    > --- newdarklook <newdarklook2@...> wrote:
                    > > Sinithos, to knossos kai festos mazi me ta blue
                    > star einai ta mona
                    > > pou taxideboun otan eiparxi apagoreftiko.
                    > > Opos xerete, ola kinounte giro apo ta xrimata.
                    > > I zimia pou dimourgite ama ena plio san ena
                    > souperfast pou pai
                    > > Italia meni demeno mia mera, einai terastia se
                    > sxesi me ena knossos
                    > >
                    > > pou pai Iraklio.
                    > >
                    > >
                    > > alex
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    >
                    >
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                    >
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                  • newdarklook
                    Distixos exo taxidepsi stin adriatiki mexri kai me 9/10 bofourt, mia fora malista mou etixe to 1992 me to palio Festos pou tote efebge apo Pirea kai pigene
                    Message 9 of 29 , Mar 9, 2003
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                      Distixos exo taxidepsi stin adriatiki mexri kai me 9/10 bofourt,

                      mia fora malista mou etixe to 1992 me to palio Festos pou tote
                      efebge apo Pirea kai pigene Ancona, den sas perigrafo tin katastasi
                      pou ipirxe sto plio.

                      Epiasa to 1995 ena oxtari me to Superfast I exo apo tin Patra,
                      psilokouniotane, ala tipota spoudeo. To Kalokairi pou mas perase
                      taxidepsa me ton Olympia Palace kai sas eiposxome pou otan pernagame
                      to kanali tou Otranto "xorebe" Kanonika !

                      na apantiso ston Giani Mitakidi:

                      Ama ena plio pou pai Italia san ena Superfast i ena Palace den
                      anaxorisi, logo blabis i logo kairou, dimourgite amesos mia terastia
                      zimia gia tin eteria. Fatastite 1000 Ix kai 1500 epibates pou
                      perimenoun na figoune gia paridigma stin Patra kai alla tosa stin
                      Ancona. Milame gia diafora ekatomiria eyro pou tha exoune na
                      plirosoune gia ti kathe mi anaxorisi. Gia kathe plio san ta
                      Superfast (ektos tou I kai to II), ta Palace ton Minoikon, Blue star
                      kai ta dio neoteykta tis Anek, i eteries exoune na xechreosoune
                      terastia Dania stis Trapezes. Pigente na dite poso kostisi ena
                      krebati se ena SUPERFAST kai FAntstite posa leyta tha xasi i eteria
                      etsi kai to Plio den kani ena taxidi. Blepoume tora pos i Minoikes
                      poulane dio neoteykta plia pou eixane mia kali grami to ena stin
                      Tunisia kai to alo tha pigene pali stin Tunisia apo Galia gia na
                      xechreosoune ta ala Plia.

                      Bye

                      Alex
                    • MANOS PAPADAKIS
                      Pote to Knossos kai to festos den taxideyoun apo 9 kai pano.Kai kala oti thalassa kai na exei de nomizo oti exoun provlima.Ego exo taxideypsi me to palio
                      Message 10 of 29 , Mar 9, 2003
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                        Pote to Knossos kai to festos den taxideyoun apo 9 kai pano.Kai kala oti
                        thalassa kai na exei de nomizo oti exoun provlima.Ego exo taxideypsi me to
                        palio Knossos me 10 kai den eixame provlima peran apo polli kounima,pragma
                        pou to torino Knossos den antimetopizei logo taxititas.An fygoun kanonika
                        oti kairo kai na synantisoun sto dromo den satamtane se kanena limani.To
                        mono provlima pou mporo na po gia to Iraklio einai to limani.H mpouka einai
                        anatoliki kai otan fysaei vorias mporei na se rixei sta vraxia.
                        Manos Papadakis





                        >From: Albert Levis <albert_levis@...>
                        >Reply-To: Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
                        >To: Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
                        >Subject: Re: [Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries] Re: ������ ��� HSF ARIADNE
                        >PALACE
                        >Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 12:37:44 -0800 (PST)
                        >
                        >Prin ligo diavasa ena minima tou Alex pou elege oti ta
                        >Knossos kai festos mazi me ta blue star einai ta mona
                        >pou taksidevoun otan exei apagoreftiko.Pantws exe
                        >ypopsin sou oti to Ionio kai i Adriatiki einai pio
                        >kleisti thalassa apo to Aigaio kai epomenws ena oktari
                        >den exei tis idies epiptwseis (den paragei ton idio
                        >kymatismo).Afto simainei pws sto men Ionio mporeis na
                        >pas kai me 8 bofor (me megalo ploio fysika,oxi me to
                        >Dimitrios Moiras pou pigaine Kyllini-Zakyntho...) sto
                        >de Aigaio isws akoma kai ta megala ploia na synantoun
                        >dyskolies.Oso gia ta krouazieroploia san to Stella
                        >Oceanis (pou einai mikro ontws) den kserw pws ta
                        >katafernoun.Pantws to sygkekrimeno (Stella Oceanis) to
                        >exw dei xeimwniatika prymnodetimeno (kai oxi
                        >plagiodetimeno pou simainei oti etoimazetai gia
                        >krouaziera) stou Tzelepi mazi me ta alla pou kanoun
                        >xeimerini akinisia.
                        >
                        >--- MANOS PAPADAKIS <tritonsvkr@...> wrote:
                        > > Pisteyo oti tha erthei kairos pou tha anagastoun na
                        > > katevasoun tis times.Ego
                        > > thelo na thixo kai ena allo thema.Einai dynaton
                        > > ploia san to Festos kai
                        > > Knossos palace na kathontai s ena limani epeidi o
                        > > aeras einai 8 mpofor kai
                        > > apo tin patra na feygoun kanonika kai na min ta
                        > > pianei apagoreytiko, episis
                        > > kai kati krouazieroploia tipou Stella Oceanis na
                        > > taxideyoun synexeia?
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > > >From: Albert Levis <albert_levis@...>
                        > > >Reply-To:
                        > > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
                        > > >To:
                        > > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
                        > > >Subject: Re: [Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries]
                        > > Re: ������ ��� HSF ARIADNE
                        > > >PALACE
                        > > >Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 13:41:33 -0800 (PST)
                        > > >
                        > > >Gia to Rethymno exw akousei kai egw oti to limani
                        > > tou
                        > > >einai kapws "retro",malista ston EFOPLISTI eixa
                        > > >diavasei oti to Preveli kanei arketi wra na desei
                        > > >giati to limani einai sxetika mikro kai i manouvra
                        > > >prepei na ginei siga-siga.
                        > > >Sxetika me ton Strintzi,nomizw oti exeis dikio kai
                        > > oti
                        > > >to Blue Star 2 pigainei sta xania kai oxi sto
                        > > >irakleio.Profanws mperdeftika epeidi to exw dei
                        > > >mia-dyo fores ston peiraia na peftei se destres
                        > > opou
                        > > >synithws pane ta ploia gia Irakleio (genikws
                        > > ginetai
                        > > >enas psiloxamos stin provlita pou pane ta ploia twn
                        > > >kritikwn dromologiwn alla eftyxws oudepote exasa
                        > > ploio
                        > > >gia kriti eksaitias aftou tou gegonotos).Gia tous
                        > > >navlous,persi to kalokairi sti diadromi
                        > > Patra-Kerkyra
                        > > >plirwsa 22 euro stin minoan (me to Ikaros Palace)
                        > > enw
                        > > >gia Kekryra-Patra me to blue sky tou strintzi
                        > > plirwsa
                        > > >19,27.Profanws tha eprepe i minoan na valei sta
                        > > >fougara twn ploiwn tis kai ton prasino stavro pou
                        > > >exoun ap'eksw ta farmakeia xexe.
                        > > >Telos,apo oso kserw,ta Matala kai i Agia Galini
                        > > einai
                        > > >touristika meri kai toulaxiston to kalokairi tha
                        > > >eprepe na exoun apeftheias sygkoinwnia an mi ti
                        > > allo
                        > > >me to Irakleio kai oxi apo to Irakleio na
                        > > katevaineis
                        > > >stis Moires kai na perimeneis mia wra na erthei to
                        > > >allo lewforeio na se paei stin faisto kai apo ekei
                        > > >allo na se katevasei sta Matala.Elpizw pws ta
                        > > pragmata
                        > > >tha exoun ftiaksei twra,giati gia fetos to
                        > > kalokairi
                        > > >eksetazw kai to endexomeno na katevw sto Vai.
                        > > >
                        > > >--- MANOS PAPADAKIS <tritonsvkr@...> wrote:
                        > > > > Ase pou mesa se ola pou eipame to Rethimno den
                        > > exei
                        > > > > kai to kalytero limani
                        > > > > gia na filoxenisei kainourgia kai megalytera
                        > > > > ploia.Oson afora ton Strintzi
                        > > > > den akousa tipota gia tin grammi tou
                        > > Irakleiou.Xero
                        > > > > oti ebale sta
                        > > > > xania.Eimai fun ton minoikon alla tin exoun dei
                        > > > > kapos kai mas xeskizoun me
                        > > > > tous naylous.Olo ayxiseis einai.
                        > > > > Tora Albert gia ta KTEL einai eykolo na ertheis
                        > > apo
                        > > > > to Rethimno edo eidika
                        > > > > tora pou yparxoun 2 ktel me leoforeia gia
                        > > > > Iraklio.Sta matala pou piges esy
                        > > > > ti na po.Einai agoni grammi.Pisteyo oti tha
                        > > ftiaxoun
                        > > > > ta pragmata.
                        > > > >
                        > > > >
                        > > > > Manos
                        > > > >
                        > > > >
                        > > > >
                        > > > >
                        > > > >
                        > > > >
                        > > > > >From: Albert Levis <albert_levis@...>
                        > > > > >Reply-To:
                        > > > >
                        > > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
                        > > > > >To:
                        > > > >
                        > > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
                        > > > > >Subject: Re:
                        > > [Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries]
                        > > > > Re: ������ ��� HSF ARIADNE
                        > > > > >PALACE
                        > > > > >Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 12:14:49 -0800 (PST)
                        > > > > >
                        > > > > >Den exeis adiko Mano,arkei bebaia na exeis
                        > > > > aftokinito
                        > > > > >giati apo proswpiki peira kserw oti ta KTEL
                        > > (pou
                        > > > > >xrisimopoioun oi mi giwtaxides opws egw) stin
                        > > Kriti
                        > > > > >exoun kapws periergo systima me tis
                        > > antapokriseis
                        > > > > (gia
                        > > > > >na paw apo ta Matala stin Agia Galini ekana
                        > > peripou
                        > > > > 4
                        > > > > >wres,me tis anamones stous endiamesous
                        > > > > stathmous-oute
                        > > > > >sto Far West den ginontousan tetoia!
                        > > > > >Bebaia i dromologisi enos ploiou eksartatai
                        > > kyriws
                        > > > > apo
                        > > > > >tin kinisi tis grammis,opote to Rethymno pou
                        > > exei
                        > > > > >metavallomeno traffic analoga me tis epoxes
                        > > > > >endexomenws den "sikwnei" polla ploia kai
                        > > ef'oson
                        > > > > gia
                        > > > > >pollous einai pio efkolo na pane me to
                        > > aftokinito
                        > > > > tous
                        > > > > >se 40 lepta sto Irakleio (edw theloume emeis
                        > > tosi
                        > > > > wra
                        > > > > >peripou na pame ston Peiraia apo tin Athina
                        > > otan
                        > > > > exei
                        > > > > >kinisi,i sto aerodromio sta Spata...) logiko
                        > > einai
                        > > > > oi
                        > > > > >ypoloipoi na eparkoun mono gia na gemisei ena
                        > > > > ploio...
                        > > > > >
                        > > > > >
                        > > > > >--- MANOS PAPADAKIS <tritonsvkr@...>
                        > > wrote:
                        > > > > > >
                        > > > > > > Ontos Albert ayto pou les einai poli
                        > > > > dyskolo.Oson
                        > > > > > > afora to Rethimno efyge to
                        > > > > > > Arkadi kai emeine to Preveli mazi me to
                        > > Aptera
                        > > > > kai i
                        > > > > > > Anek ebgale to Aptera
                        > > > > > > logo meiomenis kinisis.Ki edo pou ta leme
                        > > otan
                        > > > > > > yparxei ena Knossos kai
                        > > > > > > Festos Palace ta opoia feygoun 2 ores
                        > > argotra
                        > > > > apo
                        > > > > > > preveli kai ftanoun kai
                        > > > > > > noritera apo to Preveli sto Peiraia, ti
                        > > einai 40
                        > > > > > > lepta dromos na ertheis sto
                        > > > > > > Irakleio.Ego pantos ayto tha ekana.
                        > > > > > >
                        > > > > > > Manos
                        > > > > > >
                        > > > > > >
                        > > > > > >
                        > > > > > > >From: Albert Levis <albert_levis@...>
                        > > > > > > >Reply-To:
                        > > > > > >
                        > > > >
                        > > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
                        > > > > > > >To:
                        > > > > > >
                        > > > >
                        > > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
                        > > > > > > >Subject: Re:
                        > > > > [Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries]
                        > > > > > > Re: ������ ��� HSF ARIADNE
                        > > > > > > >PALACE
                        > > > > > > >Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 11:19:31 -0800 (PST)
                        > > > > > > >
                        > > > > > > >Kalispera Mano,
                        > > > > > > >
                        > > > > > > >Gia ta Xania ontws kserw oti ginetai enas
                        > > > > "polemos"
                        > > > > > > >metaksy ANEK-MINOAN,giati einai i defteri
                        > > > > megali
                        > > > > > > poli
                        > > > > > > >tis Kritis meta to Irakleio.Gia to Rethymno
                        > > > > omws
                        > > > > > > opou
                        > >
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                      • GIANI MITAKIDI
                        GOOD DAY EVERYBODY NOMIZO OTI KAPOU XATHIKA H XATHIKAME... KALO THA EINAI, NA APANTAME AKRIBOS STA TOPICS POU ANAFERETAI O KATHENAS MAS, OSTE NA MPOROUME NA
                        Message 11 of 29 , Mar 11, 2003
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                          GOOD DAY EVERYBODY

                          NOMIZO OTI KAPOU XATHIKA H XATHIKAME...
                          KALO THA EINAI, NA APANTAME AKRIBOS STA TOPICS POU ANAFERETAI O
                          KATHENAS MAS, OSTE NA MPOROUME NA SYNDEOUME KAI TIS APANTISEIS.
                          EPISIS, KATHE FORA POU ENA NEO THEMA SYNDEETE ME TO PROIGOUMENO, NA
                          ALLAZOUME TO THEMA, DIOTI MOU EKANE ENTIPOSI NA BLEPO SE PERIPOU 40
                          MYNIMATA NA EINAI RE:ARIADNI, KAI MESA NA EXEI KAI ALLA PARELKOMENA
                          THEMATA.

                          ETSI LOIPON, EGO EGRAPSA MIA APORIA MOU, GIA TIN OPOIA DEN PIRA
                          APANTISI, KAI AFTO NOMIZO LOGO TON DYSKOLION POU ANAFYONTAI, ME TA
                          ANAFEROMENA STIN ARXI, PIO PANO.

                          DEN THA ANAFERTHO EKTENESTERA, GIATI NOMIZO OTI OI IDIES LEPTOMERIES
                          THA SYZITITHOUN SYNTOMA KAI SE ALLA PARAPLISIA THEMATA.

                          TO MONO POU THA PO EINAI OTI TO BLUE STAR EXEI PROORISMO TA XANIA KAI
                          OXI TO IRAKLIO.

                          MA EISTE KALA OLOI

                          GIANNI






                          --- MANOS PAPADAKIS <tritonsvkr@...> wrote:
                          >
                          > Pote to Knossos kai to festos den taxideyoun apo 9 kai pano.Kai
                          > kala oti
                          > thalassa kai na exei de nomizo oti exoun provlima.Ego exo
                          > taxideypsi me to
                          > palio Knossos me 10 kai den eixame provlima peran apo polli
                          > kounima,pragma
                          > pou to torino Knossos den antimetopizei logo taxititas.An fygoun
                          > kanonika
                          > oti kairo kai na synantisoun sto dromo den satamtane se kanena
                          > limani.To
                          > mono provlima pou mporo na po gia to Iraklio einai to limani.H
                          > mpouka einai
                          > anatoliki kai otan fysaei vorias mporei na se rixei sta vraxia.
                          > Manos Papadakis
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          > >From: Albert Levis <albert_levis@...>
                          > >Reply-To: Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
                          > >To: Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
                          > >Subject: Re: [Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries] Re: ������ ���
                          > HSF ARIADNE
                          > >PALACE
                          > >Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 12:37:44 -0800 (PST)
                          > >
                          > >Prin ligo diavasa ena minima tou Alex pou elege oti ta
                          > >Knossos kai festos mazi me ta blue star einai ta mona
                          > >pou taksidevoun otan exei apagoreftiko.Pantws exe
                          > >ypopsin sou oti to Ionio kai i Adriatiki einai pio
                          > >kleisti thalassa apo to Aigaio kai epomenws ena oktari
                          > >den exei tis idies epiptwseis (den paragei ton idio
                          > >kymatismo).Afto simainei pws sto men Ionio mporeis na
                          > >pas kai me 8 bofor (me megalo ploio fysika,oxi me to
                          > >Dimitrios Moiras pou pigaine Kyllini-Zakyntho...) sto
                          > >de Aigaio isws akoma kai ta megala ploia na synantoun
                          > >dyskolies.Oso gia ta krouazieroploia san to Stella
                          > >Oceanis (pou einai mikro ontws) den kserw pws ta
                          > >katafernoun.Pantws to sygkekrimeno (Stella Oceanis) to
                          > >exw dei xeimwniatika prymnodetimeno (kai oxi
                          > >plagiodetimeno pou simainei oti etoimazetai gia
                          > >krouaziera) stou Tzelepi mazi me ta alla pou kanoun
                          > >xeimerini akinisia.
                          > >
                          > >--- MANOS PAPADAKIS <tritonsvkr@...> wrote:
                          > > > Pisteyo oti tha erthei kairos pou tha anagastoun na
                          > > > katevasoun tis times.Ego
                          > > > thelo na thixo kai ena allo thema.Einai dynaton
                          > > > ploia san to Festos kai
                          > > > Knossos palace na kathontai s ena limani epeidi o
                          > > > aeras einai 8 mpofor kai
                          > > > apo tin patra na feygoun kanonika kai na min ta
                          > > > pianei apagoreytiko, episis
                          > > > kai kati krouazieroploia tipou Stella Oceanis na
                          > > > taxideyoun synexeia?
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > >From: Albert Levis <albert_levis@...>
                          > > > >Reply-To:
                          > > > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
                          > > > >To:
                          > > > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
                          > > > >Subject: Re: [Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries]
                          > > > Re: ������ ��� HSF ARIADNE
                          > > > >PALACE
                          > > > >Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 13:41:33 -0800 (PST)
                          > > > >
                          > > > >Gia to Rethymno exw akousei kai egw oti to limani
                          > > > tou
                          > > > >einai kapws "retro",malista ston EFOPLISTI eixa
                          > > > >diavasei oti to Preveli kanei arketi wra na desei
                          > > > >giati to limani einai sxetika mikro kai i manouvra
                          > > > >prepei na ginei siga-siga.
                          > > > >Sxetika me ton Strintzi,nomizw oti exeis dikio kai
                          > > > oti
                          > > > >to Blue Star 2 pigainei sta xania kai oxi sto
                          > > > >irakleio.Profanws mperdeftika epeidi to exw dei
                          > > > >mia-dyo fores ston peiraia na peftei se destres
                          > > > opou
                          > > > >synithws pane ta ploia gia Irakleio (genikws
                          > > > ginetai
                          > > > >enas psiloxamos stin provlita pou pane ta ploia twn
                          > > > >kritikwn dromologiwn alla eftyxws oudepote exasa
                          > > > ploio
                          > > > >gia kriti eksaitias aftou tou gegonotos).Gia tous
                          > > > >navlous,persi to kalokairi sti diadromi
                          > > > Patra-Kerkyra
                          > > > >plirwsa 22 euro stin minoan (me to Ikaros Palace)
                          > > > enw
                          > > > >gia Kekryra-Patra me to blue sky tou strintzi
                          > > > plirwsa
                          > > > >19,27.Profanws tha eprepe i minoan na valei sta
                          > > > >fougara twn ploiwn tis kai ton prasino stavro pou
                          > > > >exoun ap'eksw ta farmakeia xexe.
                          > > > >Telos,apo oso kserw,ta Matala kai i Agia Galini
                          > > > einai
                          > > > >touristika meri kai toulaxiston to kalokairi tha
                          > > > >eprepe na exoun apeftheias sygkoinwnia an mi ti
                          > > > allo
                          > > > >me to Irakleio kai oxi apo to Irakleio na
                          > > > katevaineis
                          > > > >stis Moires kai na perimeneis mia wra na erthei to
                          > > > >allo lewforeio na se paei stin faisto kai apo ekei
                          > > > >allo na se katevasei sta Matala.Elpizw pws ta
                          > > > pragmata
                          > > > >tha exoun ftiaksei twra,giati gia fetos to
                          > > > kalokairi
                          > > > >eksetazw kai to endexomeno na katevw sto Vai.
                          > > > >
                          > > > >--- MANOS PAPADAKIS <tritonsvkr@...> wrote:
                          > > > > > Ase pou mesa se ola pou eipame to Rethimno den
                          > > > exei
                          > > > > > kai to kalytero limani
                          > > > > > gia na filoxenisei kainourgia kai megalytera
                          > > > > > ploia.Oson afora ton Strintzi
                          > > > > > den akousa tipota gia tin grammi tou
                          > > > Irakleiou.Xero
                          > > > > > oti ebale sta
                          > > > > > xania.Eimai fun ton minoikon alla tin exoun dei
                          > > > > > kapos kai mas xeskizoun me
                          > > > > > tous naylous.Olo ayxiseis einai.
                          > > > > > Tora Albert gia ta KTEL einai eykolo na ertheis
                          > > > apo
                          > > > > > to Rethimno edo eidika
                          > > > > > tora pou yparxoun 2 ktel me leoforeia gia
                          > > > > > Iraklio.Sta matala pou piges esy
                          > > > > > ti na po.Einai agoni grammi.Pisteyo oti tha
                          > > > ftiaxoun
                          > > > > > ta pragmata.
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > Manos
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > >From: Albert Levis <albert_levis@...>
                          > > > > > >Reply-To:
                          > > > > >
                          > > > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
                          > > > > > >To:
                          > > > > >
                          > > > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
                          > > > > > >Subject: Re:
                          > > > [Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries]
                          > > > > > Re: ������ ��� HSF ARIADNE
                          > > > > > >PALACE
                          > > > > > >Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 12:14:49 -0800 (PST)
                          > > > > > >
                          > > > > > >Den exeis adiko Mano,arkei bebaia na exeis
                          > > > > > aftokinito
                          > > > > > >giati apo proswpiki peira kserw oti ta KTEL
                          > > > (pou
                          > > > > > >xrisimopoioun oi mi giwtaxides opws egw) stin
                          > > > Kriti
                          > > > > > >exoun kapws periergo systima me tis
                          > > > antapokriseis
                          > > > > > (gia
                          > > > > > >na paw apo ta Matala stin Agia Galini ekana
                          > > > peripou
                          > > > > > 4
                          > > > > > >wres,me tis anamones stous endiamesous
                          > > > > > stathmous-oute
                          > > > > > >sto Far West den ginontousan tetoia!
                          > > > > > >Bebaia i dromologisi enos ploiou eksartatai
                          > > > kyriws
                          > > > > > apo
                          > > > > > >tin kinisi tis grammis,opote to Rethymno pou
                          > > > exei
                          > > > > > >metavallomeno traffic analoga me tis epoxes
                          > > > > > >endexomenws den "sikwnei" polla ploia kai
                          > > > ef'oson
                          > > > > > gia
                          > > > > > >pollous einai pio efkolo na pane me to
                          > > > aftokinito
                          > > > > > tous
                          > > > > > >se 40 lepta sto Irakleio (edw theloume emeis
                          > > > tosi
                          > > > > > wra
                          > > > > > >peripou na pame ston Peiraia apo tin Athina
                          > > > otan
                          > > > > > exei
                          > > > > > >kinisi,i sto aerodromio sta Spata...) logiko
                          > > > einai
                          > > > > > oi
                          > > > > > >ypoloipoi na eparkoun mono gia na gemisei ena
                          > > > > > ploio...
                          > > > > > >
                          > > > > > >
                          > > > > > >--- MANOS PAPADAKIS <tritonsvkr@...>
                          > > > wrote:
                          > > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > > Ontos Albert ayto pou les einai poli
                          > > > > > dyskolo.Oson
                          > > > > > > > afora to Rethimno efyge to
                          > > > > > > > Arkadi kai emeine to Preveli mazi me to
                          > > > Aptera
                          > > > > > kai i
                          > > > > > > > Anek ebgale to Aptera
                          > > > > > > > logo meiomenis kinisis.Ki edo pou ta leme
                          > > > otan
                          > > > > > > > yparxei ena Knossos kai
                          > > > > > > > Festos Palace ta opoia feygoun 2 ores
                          > > > argotra
                          > > > > > apo
                          > > > > > > > preveli kai ftanoun kai
                          > > > > > > > noritera apo to Preveli sto Peiraia, ti
                          > > > einai 40
                          > > > > > > > lepta dromos na ertheis sto
                          > > > > > > > Irakleio.Ego pantos ayto tha ekana.
                          > > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > > Manos
                          > > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > > >From: Albert Levis <albert_levis@...>
                          > > > > > > > >Reply-To:
                          > > > > > > >
                          > > > > >
                          > > > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
                          > > > > > > > >To:
                          > > > > > > >
                          > > > > >
                          > > > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
                          > > > > > > > >Subject: Re:
                          > > > > > [Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries]
                          > > > > > > > Re: ������ ��� HSF ARIADNE
                          > > > > > > > >PALACE
                          > > > > > > > >Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 11:19:31 -0800 (PST)
                          > > > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > > >Kalispera Mano,
                          > > > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > > >Gia ta Xania ontws kserw oti ginetai enas
                          > > > > > "polemos"
                          > > > > > > > >metaksy ANEK-MINOAN,giati einai i defteri
                          > > > > > megali
                          > > > > > > > poli
                          > > > > > > > >tis Kritis meta to Irakleio.Gia to Rethymno
                          > > > > > omws
                          > > > > > > > opou
                          > > >
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                        • Albert Levis
                          Eixa diavasei kai egw se sxolio ston EFOPLISTI oti ta kritika ploia genikws den ta pianei apagoreftiko (malista me tin xioumnoristiki simeiwsi fainetai oti
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                            Eixa diavasei kai egw se sxolio ston EFOPLISTI oti ta
                            kritika ploia genikws den ta "pianei" apagoreftiko
                            (malista me tin xioumnoristiki simeiwsi "fainetai oti
                            yparxei eidikos diavlos apnoias gia ta ploia
                            afta").Pantws proswpiki peira den exw,giati den exei
                            tyxei na taksidepsw me xontrous kairous-allwste ton
                            xeimwna den exw kai poly xrono gia taksidia genika.Oso
                            gia to limani sto Irakleio,to mono pou mou ekane
                            entypwsi itan oti einai sxetika steno (piga kai mexri
                            tin provlita pou eixan demeno to prwin Panagia
                            Tinou-metepeita Artemis-prin to poulisoun,kai apo
                            ekei,i provlita epivivasis mou fainotan
                            "konta").Fysika,eixe enan anemo diaolemeno,arxes
                            Avgoustou malista (eksw apo ton kymatothrafsti itan
                            aftoktonia na pas na kolympiseis giati ta kymata tha
                            se erixnan sta vraxia).
                            --- MANOS PAPADAKIS <tritonsvkr@...> wrote:
                            >
                            > Pote to Knossos kai to festos den taxideyoun apo 9
                            > kai pano.Kai kala oti
                            > thalassa kai na exei de nomizo oti exoun
                            > provlima.Ego exo taxideypsi me to
                            > palio Knossos me 10 kai den eixame provlima peran
                            > apo polli kounima,pragma
                            > pou to torino Knossos den antimetopizei logo
                            > taxititas.An fygoun kanonika
                            > oti kairo kai na synantisoun sto dromo den satamtane
                            > se kanena limani.To
                            > mono provlima pou mporo na po gia to Iraklio einai
                            > to limani.H mpouka einai
                            > anatoliki kai otan fysaei vorias mporei na se rixei
                            > sta vraxia.
                            > Manos Papadakis
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            > >From: Albert Levis <albert_levis@...>
                            > >Reply-To:
                            > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
                            > >To:
                            > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
                            > >Subject: Re: [Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries]
                            > Re: ������ ��� HSF ARIADNE
                            > >PALACE
                            > >Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 12:37:44 -0800 (PST)
                            > >
                            > >Prin ligo diavasa ena minima tou Alex pou elege oti
                            > ta
                            > >Knossos kai festos mazi me ta blue star einai ta
                            > mona
                            > >pou taksidevoun otan exei apagoreftiko.Pantws exe
                            > >ypopsin sou oti to Ionio kai i Adriatiki einai pio
                            > >kleisti thalassa apo to Aigaio kai epomenws ena
                            > oktari
                            > >den exei tis idies epiptwseis (den paragei ton idio
                            > >kymatismo).Afto simainei pws sto men Ionio mporeis
                            > na
                            > >pas kai me 8 bofor (me megalo ploio fysika,oxi me
                            > to
                            > >Dimitrios Moiras pou pigaine Kyllini-Zakyntho...)
                            > sto
                            > >de Aigaio isws akoma kai ta megala ploia na
                            > synantoun
                            > >dyskolies.Oso gia ta krouazieroploia san to Stella
                            > >Oceanis (pou einai mikro ontws) den kserw pws ta
                            > >katafernoun.Pantws to sygkekrimeno (Stella Oceanis)
                            > to
                            > >exw dei xeimwniatika prymnodetimeno (kai oxi
                            > >plagiodetimeno pou simainei oti etoimazetai gia
                            > >krouaziera) stou Tzelepi mazi me ta alla pou kanoun
                            > >xeimerini akinisia.
                            > >
                            > >--- MANOS PAPADAKIS <tritonsvkr@...> wrote:
                            > > > Pisteyo oti tha erthei kairos pou tha anagastoun
                            > na
                            > > > katevasoun tis times.Ego
                            > > > thelo na thixo kai ena allo thema.Einai dynaton
                            > > > ploia san to Festos kai
                            > > > Knossos palace na kathontai s ena limani epeidi
                            > o
                            > > > aeras einai 8 mpofor kai
                            > > > apo tin patra na feygoun kanonika kai na min ta
                            > > > pianei apagoreytiko, episis
                            > > > kai kati krouazieroploia tipou Stella Oceanis na
                            > > > taxideyoun synexeia?
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > >From: Albert Levis <albert_levis@...>
                            > > > >Reply-To:
                            > > >
                            > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
                            > > > >To:
                            > > >
                            > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
                            > > > >Subject: Re:
                            > [Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries]
                            > > > Re: ������ ��� HSF ARIADNE
                            > > > >PALACE
                            > > > >Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 13:41:33 -0800 (PST)
                            > > > >
                            > > > >Gia to Rethymno exw akousei kai egw oti to
                            > limani
                            > > > tou
                            > > > >einai kapws "retro",malista ston EFOPLISTI eixa
                            > > > >diavasei oti to Preveli kanei arketi wra na
                            > desei
                            > > > >giati to limani einai sxetika mikro kai i
                            > manouvra
                            > > > >prepei na ginei siga-siga.
                            > > > >Sxetika me ton Strintzi,nomizw oti exeis dikio
                            > kai
                            > > > oti
                            > > > >to Blue Star 2 pigainei sta xania kai oxi sto
                            > > > >irakleio.Profanws mperdeftika epeidi to exw dei
                            > > > >mia-dyo fores ston peiraia na peftei se destres
                            > > > opou
                            > > > >synithws pane ta ploia gia Irakleio (genikws
                            > > > ginetai
                            > > > >enas psiloxamos stin provlita pou pane ta ploia
                            > twn
                            > > > >kritikwn dromologiwn alla eftyxws oudepote
                            > exasa
                            > > > ploio
                            > > > >gia kriti eksaitias aftou tou gegonotos).Gia
                            > tous
                            > > > >navlous,persi to kalokairi sti diadromi
                            > > > Patra-Kerkyra
                            > > > >plirwsa 22 euro stin minoan (me to Ikaros
                            > Palace)
                            > > > enw
                            > > > >gia Kekryra-Patra me to blue sky tou strintzi
                            > > > plirwsa
                            > > > >19,27.Profanws tha eprepe i minoan na valei sta
                            > > > >fougara twn ploiwn tis kai ton prasino stavro
                            > pou
                            > > > >exoun ap'eksw ta farmakeia xexe.
                            > > > >Telos,apo oso kserw,ta Matala kai i Agia Galini
                            > > > einai
                            > > > >touristika meri kai toulaxiston to kalokairi
                            > tha
                            > > > >eprepe na exoun apeftheias sygkoinwnia an mi ti
                            > > > allo
                            > > > >me to Irakleio kai oxi apo to Irakleio na
                            > > > katevaineis
                            > > > >stis Moires kai na perimeneis mia wra na erthei
                            > to
                            > > > >allo lewforeio na se paei stin faisto kai apo
                            > ekei
                            > > > >allo na se katevasei sta Matala.Elpizw pws ta
                            > > > pragmata
                            > > > >tha exoun ftiaksei twra,giati gia fetos to
                            > > > kalokairi
                            > > > >eksetazw kai to endexomeno na katevw sto Vai.
                            > > > >
                            > > > >--- MANOS PAPADAKIS <tritonsvkr@...>
                            > wrote:
                            > > > > > Ase pou mesa se ola pou eipame to Rethimno
                            > den
                            > > > exei
                            > > > > > kai to kalytero limani
                            > > > > > gia na filoxenisei kainourgia kai megalytera
                            > > > > > ploia.Oson afora ton Strintzi
                            > > > > > den akousa tipota gia tin grammi tou
                            > > > Irakleiou.Xero
                            > > > > > oti ebale sta
                            > > > > > xania.Eimai fun ton minoikon alla tin exoun
                            > dei
                            > > > > > kapos kai mas xeskizoun me
                            > > > > > tous naylous.Olo ayxiseis einai.
                            > > > > > Tora Albert gia ta KTEL einai eykolo na
                            > ertheis
                            > > > apo
                            > > > > > to Rethimno edo eidika
                            > > > > > tora pou yparxoun 2 ktel me leoforeia gia
                            > > > > > Iraklio.Sta matala pou piges esy
                            > > > > > ti na po.Einai agoni grammi.Pisteyo oti tha
                            > > > ftiaxoun
                            > > > > > ta pragmata.
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > Manos
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > >From: Albert Levis <albert_levis@...>
                            > > > > > >Reply-To:
                            > > > > >
                            > > >
                            > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
                            > > > > > >To:
                            > > > > >
                            > > >
                            > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
                            > > > > > >Subject: Re:
                            > > > [Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries]
                            > > > > > Re: ������ ��� HSF ARIADNE
                            > > > > > >PALACE
                            > > > > > >Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 12:14:49 -0800 (PST)
                            > > > > > >
                            > > > > > >Den exeis adiko Mano,arkei bebaia na exeis
                            > > > > > aftokinito
                            > > > > > >giati apo proswpiki peira kserw oti ta KTEL
                            > > > (pou
                            > > > > > >xrisimopoioun oi mi giwtaxides opws egw)
                            > stin
                            > > > Kriti
                            > > > > > >exoun kapws periergo systima me tis
                            > > > antapokriseis
                            > > > > > (gia
                            >
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                          • Albert Levis
                            Ta palia Festos kai Knossos itan mikrotera apo ta kainourgia synonomata tous.Egw eixa taksidepsei to 1977 me to Knwssos sto Irakleio (kalokairi bebaia) kai
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                              Ta palia Festos kai Knossos itan mikrotera apo ta
                              kainourgia synonomata tous.Egw eixa taksidepsei to
                              1977 me to Knwssos sto Irakleio (kalokairi bebaia) kai
                              thymamai oti psilokounage se thalassa pou genikws den
                              itan "trikymismeni".
                              Tin diadromi Patra-Kerkyra tin ekana fetos to
                              kalokairi me to Ikaros Palace kai epistrofi me to Blue
                              Sky kai diapistwsa oti perna sxetika konta apo tis
                              aktes tis ipeirwtikis elladas (wste "kobei" ligaki i
                              entasi twn kairikwn fainomenwn).Eksallou ta ploia afta
                              einai megala kai exoun kai systimata stabilizers gia
                              na eksomalynoun tis talantwseis apo ton
                              kymatismo.Epomenws,eksw apo tin Patra,diladi oute kan
                              akoma sta "anoixta",to oktari den tha prepei na
                              ginetai aisthito.Gia tin Adriatiki den kserw,eixa
                              taksidepsei poly palia (to kalokairi tou 1968) me kati
                              brwmerwtata ploiaria aigyptiakis etaireias (eixan kai
                              pisina,tromara tous...)pou ekanan tin grammi
                              Aleksandreia-Peiraia-Venetia kai den thymamai na
                              kounagane (ta fagita tous pantws itan
                              nostimwtata)......
                              Gia tin apantisi sou ston Gianni exeis dikio alla na
                              symplirwsw epanalamvanontas afto pou eipa se
                              proigoumeno minima mou,oti diladi i Italia den
                              apotelei mono proorismo alla kai endiameso stathmo
                              pros tin ypoloipi Evrwpi,se antithesi me tin
                              Kriti.Epomenws i kinisi einai pio afksimeni kai
                              synexis.


                              --- newdarklook <newdarklook2@...> wrote:
                              > Distixos exo taxidepsi stin adriatiki mexri kai me
                              > 9/10 bofourt,
                              >
                              > mia fora malista mou etixe to 1992 me to palio
                              > Festos pou tote
                              > efebge apo Pirea kai pigene Ancona, den sas
                              > perigrafo tin katastasi
                              > pou ipirxe sto plio.
                              >
                              > Epiasa to 1995 ena oxtari me to Superfast I exo apo
                              > tin Patra,
                              > psilokouniotane, ala tipota spoudeo. To Kalokairi
                              > pou mas perase
                              > taxidepsa me ton Olympia Palace kai sas eiposxome
                              > pou otan pernagame
                              > to kanali tou Otranto "xorebe" Kanonika !
                              >
                              > na apantiso ston Giani Mitakidi:
                              >
                              > Ama ena plio pou pai Italia san ena Superfast i ena
                              > Palace den
                              > anaxorisi, logo blabis i logo kairou, dimourgite
                              > amesos mia terastia
                              > zimia gia tin eteria. Fatastite 1000 Ix kai 1500
                              > epibates pou
                              > perimenoun na figoune gia paridigma stin Patra kai
                              > alla tosa stin
                              > Ancona. Milame gia diafora ekatomiria eyro pou tha
                              > exoune na
                              > plirosoune gia ti kathe mi anaxorisi. Gia kathe plio
                              > san ta
                              > Superfast (ektos tou I kai to II), ta Palace ton
                              > Minoikon, Blue star
                              > kai ta dio neoteykta tis Anek, i eteries exoune na
                              > xechreosoune
                              > terastia Dania stis Trapezes. Pigente na dite poso
                              > kostisi ena
                              > krebati se ena SUPERFAST kai FAntstite posa leyta
                              > tha xasi i eteria
                              > etsi kai to Plio den kani ena taxidi. Blepoume tora
                              > pos i Minoikes
                              > poulane dio neoteykta plia pou eixane mia kali grami
                              > to ena stin
                              > Tunisia kai to alo tha pigene pali stin Tunisia apo
                              > Galia gia na
                              > xechreosoune ta ala Plia.
                              >
                              > Bye
                              >
                              > Alex
                              >
                              >
                              >


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                            • Albert Levis
                              Gianni kalispera Simasia exei oti oso kai na xanomaste...ksanavriskomaste,kai afto einai to efxaristo. Symfwnwn kai egw oti prepei na allazoume to topic kathe
                              Message 14 of 29 , Mar 11, 2003
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                                Gianni kalispera

                                Simasia exei oti oso kai na
                                xanomaste...ksanavriskomaste,kai afto einai to
                                efxaristo.
                                Symfwnwn kai egw oti prepei na allazoume to topic
                                kathe fora pou apo ena thema pidame se allo,alla
                                tyxainei kammia fora na...variomaste,opote prokyptei
                                to episimainomeno mperdema.
                                Sxetika me tin aporia sou,mipws anaferotan stin
                                "asylia" pou apolamvanoun kapoia ploia enanti twn
                                apagoreftikwn?

                                --- GIANI MITAKIDI <mbrosgr@...> wrote:
                                > GOOD DAY EVERYBODY
                                >
                                > NOMIZO OTI KAPOU XATHIKA H XATHIKAME...
                                > KALO THA EINAI, NA APANTAME AKRIBOS STA TOPICS POU
                                > ANAFERETAI O
                                > KATHENAS MAS, OSTE NA MPOROUME NA SYNDEOUME KAI TIS
                                > APANTISEIS.
                                > EPISIS, KATHE FORA POU ENA NEO THEMA SYNDEETE ME TO
                                > PROIGOUMENO, NA
                                > ALLAZOUME TO THEMA, DIOTI MOU EKANE ENTIPOSI NA
                                > BLEPO SE PERIPOU 40
                                > MYNIMATA NA EINAI RE:ARIADNI, KAI MESA NA EXEI KAI
                                > ALLA PARELKOMENA
                                > THEMATA.
                                >
                                > ETSI LOIPON, EGO EGRAPSA MIA APORIA MOU, GIA TIN
                                > OPOIA DEN PIRA
                                > APANTISI, KAI AFTO NOMIZO LOGO TON DYSKOLION POU
                                > ANAFYONTAI, ME TA
                                > ANAFEROMENA STIN ARXI, PIO PANO.
                                >
                                > DEN THA ANAFERTHO EKTENESTERA, GIATI NOMIZO OTI OI
                                > IDIES LEPTOMERIES
                                > THA SYZITITHOUN SYNTOMA KAI SE ALLA PARAPLISIA
                                > THEMATA.
                                >
                                > TO MONO POU THA PO EINAI OTI TO BLUE STAR EXEI
                                > PROORISMO TA XANIA KAI
                                > OXI TO IRAKLIO.
                                >
                                > MA EISTE KALA OLOI
                                >
                                > GIANNI
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > --- MANOS PAPADAKIS <tritonsvkr@...> wrote:
                                > >
                                > > Pote to Knossos kai to festos den taxideyoun apo 9
                                > kai pano.Kai
                                > > kala oti
                                > > thalassa kai na exei de nomizo oti exoun
                                > provlima.Ego exo
                                > > taxideypsi me to
                                > > palio Knossos me 10 kai den eixame provlima peran
                                > apo polli
                                > > kounima,pragma
                                > > pou to torino Knossos den antimetopizei logo
                                > taxititas.An fygoun
                                > > kanonika
                                > > oti kairo kai na synantisoun sto dromo den
                                > satamtane se kanena
                                > > limani.To
                                > > mono provlima pou mporo na po gia to Iraklio einai
                                > to limani.H
                                > > mpouka einai
                                > > anatoliki kai otan fysaei vorias mporei na se
                                > rixei sta vraxia.
                                > > Manos Papadakis
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > >From: Albert Levis <albert_levis@...>
                                > > >Reply-To:
                                > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
                                > > >To:
                                > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
                                > > >Subject: Re: [Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries]
                                > Re: ������ ���
                                > > HSF ARIADNE
                                > > >PALACE
                                > > >Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 12:37:44 -0800 (PST)
                                > > >
                                > > >Prin ligo diavasa ena minima tou Alex pou elege
                                > oti ta
                                > > >Knossos kai festos mazi me ta blue star einai ta
                                > mona
                                > > >pou taksidevoun otan exei apagoreftiko.Pantws exe
                                > > >ypopsin sou oti to Ionio kai i Adriatiki einai
                                > pio
                                > > >kleisti thalassa apo to Aigaio kai epomenws ena
                                > oktari
                                > > >den exei tis idies epiptwseis (den paragei ton
                                > idio
                                > > >kymatismo).Afto simainei pws sto men Ionio
                                > mporeis na
                                > > >pas kai me 8 bofor (me megalo ploio fysika,oxi me
                                > to
                                > > >Dimitrios Moiras pou pigaine Kyllini-Zakyntho...)
                                > sto
                                > > >de Aigaio isws akoma kai ta megala ploia na
                                > synantoun
                                > > >dyskolies.Oso gia ta krouazieroploia san to
                                > Stella
                                > > >Oceanis (pou einai mikro ontws) den kserw pws ta
                                > > >katafernoun.Pantws to sygkekrimeno (Stella
                                > Oceanis) to
                                > > >exw dei xeimwniatika prymnodetimeno (kai oxi
                                > > >plagiodetimeno pou simainei oti etoimazetai gia
                                > > >krouaziera) stou Tzelepi mazi me ta alla pou
                                > kanoun
                                > > >xeimerini akinisia.
                                > > >
                                > > >--- MANOS PAPADAKIS <tritonsvkr@...>
                                > wrote:
                                > > > > Pisteyo oti tha erthei kairos pou tha
                                > anagastoun na
                                > > > > katevasoun tis times.Ego
                                > > > > thelo na thixo kai ena allo thema.Einai
                                > dynaton
                                > > > > ploia san to Festos kai
                                > > > > Knossos palace na kathontai s ena limani
                                > epeidi o
                                > > > > aeras einai 8 mpofor kai
                                > > > > apo tin patra na feygoun kanonika kai na min
                                > ta
                                > > > > pianei apagoreytiko, episis
                                > > > > kai kati krouazieroploia tipou Stella Oceanis
                                > na
                                > > > > taxideyoun synexeia?
                                > > > >
                                > > > >
                                > > > >
                                > > > >
                                > > > >
                                > > > >
                                > > > > >From: Albert Levis <albert_levis@...>
                                > > > > >Reply-To:
                                > > > >
                                > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
                                > > > > >To:
                                > > > >
                                > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
                                > > > > >Subject: Re:
                                > [Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries]
                                > > > > Re: ������ ��� HSF ARIADNE
                                > > > > >PALACE
                                > > > > >Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 13:41:33 -0800 (PST)
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > >Gia to Rethymno exw akousei kai egw oti to
                                > limani
                                > > > > tou
                                > > > > >einai kapws "retro",malista ston EFOPLISTI
                                > eixa
                                > > > > >diavasei oti to Preveli kanei arketi wra na
                                > desei
                                > > > > >giati to limani einai sxetika mikro kai i
                                > manouvra
                                > > > > >prepei na ginei siga-siga.
                                > > > > >Sxetika me ton Strintzi,nomizw oti exeis
                                > dikio kai
                                > > > > oti
                                > > > > >to Blue Star 2 pigainei sta xania kai oxi sto
                                > > > > >irakleio.Profanws mperdeftika epeidi to exw
                                > dei
                                > > > > >mia-dyo fores ston peiraia na peftei se
                                > destres
                                > > > > opou
                                > > > > >synithws pane ta ploia gia Irakleio (genikws
                                > > > > ginetai
                                > > > > >enas psiloxamos stin provlita pou pane ta
                                > ploia twn
                                > > > > >kritikwn dromologiwn alla eftyxws oudepote
                                > exasa
                                > > > > ploio
                                > > > > >gia kriti eksaitias aftou tou gegonotos).Gia
                                > tous
                                > > > > >navlous,persi to kalokairi sti diadromi
                                > > > > Patra-Kerkyra
                                > > > > >plirwsa 22 euro stin minoan (me to Ikaros
                                > Palace)
                                > > > > enw
                                > > > > >gia Kekryra-Patra me to blue sky tou strintzi
                                > > > > plirwsa
                                > > > > >19,27.Profanws tha eprepe i minoan na valei
                                > sta
                                > > > > >fougara twn ploiwn tis kai ton prasino stavro
                                > pou
                                > > > > >exoun ap'eksw ta farmakeia xexe.
                                > > > > >Telos,apo oso kserw,ta Matala kai i Agia
                                > Galini
                                > > > > einai
                                > > > > >touristika meri kai toulaxiston to kalokairi
                                > tha
                                > > > > >eprepe na exoun apeftheias sygkoinwnia an mi
                                > ti
                                > > > > allo
                                > > > > >me to Irakleio kai oxi apo to Irakleio na
                                > > > > katevaineis
                                > > > > >stis Moires kai na perimeneis mia wra na
                                > erthei to
                                > > > > >allo lewforeio na se paei stin faisto kai apo
                                > ekei
                                > > > > >allo na se katevasei sta Matala.Elpizw pws ta
                                > > > > pragmata
                                > > > > >tha exoun ftiaksei twra,giati gia fetos to
                                >
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                                ALBERT KAI YPOLIPOI KYRIOI KALISPERA POLLES FORES NIOTHO TIN ANAGI, NA APANTISO GIA NA DIEFKRINISO TA ANAFEROMENA SE KAPIO THEMA, KAI IDIAITERA SE SOBARES
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                                  ALBERT KAI YPOLIPOI KYRIOI
                                  KALISPERA


                                  POLLES FORES NIOTHO TIN ANAGI, NA APANTISO GIA NA DIEFKRINISO
                                  TA ANAFEROMENA SE KAPIO THEMA, KAI IDIAITERA SE SOBARES ANAFORES,
                                  OPOU TO SXOLIO, GINETE ME PARAMETROUS MH EIDIKOTEROUS.

                                  OS EK TOUTOU THA PARATIRISETE, OTI PANTA KANO EROTISEIS
                                  DIEFKRINISTIKES, H ANAFEROME SE KATI SXETIKO DIKO MOU.

                                  KATALABENETE OTI, OS PROS TIN ALLAGI TOU SUBJECT, DEN EINAI TO EAN
                                  THA XATHOUME KAI THA KSAMABRETHOUME, ALLA PITHANOTERI EINAI H
                                  PARAKSIGISI, KAI H APAKSIA AFTIS TIS SYMMETOXHS MAS STO GROUP.
                                  EPITHIMO, APO TIN EPAFI OLON MAS, NA BGENI KAI KATI STO TELOS,
                                  OSTE NA NIOTHOUME KAI SOFOTEROI..

                                  TORA SXETIKA ME TA APAGOREFTIKA..

                                  1. OI THALASSES MAS EINAI IDIOMORFES. AFTO TO KATALABENOUN OSOI TIS
                                  TAKSIDEVOUN STA ORIA TON SYGEKRIMENO PERIOXON OPOU ANAFERONTAI TA
                                  DELTIA. PROSOPIKES EMPEIRIES, OLO TO EGEO BRAZEI 9-10 BORIADES.
                                  APAGOREFTIKO STO PEIRAIA GIA DODEKANISA, STIS 23.00 ME TIN ALLAGI TOU
                                  DELTIOU IPARXI KALITEREYSI KERIKON SINTHIKON, OPOTE KAI ANAXOREI TO
                                  PLOIO. OLOI KOUMPOMENOI, SKEPTIKOI, GIA TO TI THA SINANTISOUME STO
                                  DROMO. MHNAS DEKEMBRIOS, MEXRI TIN LERO ENA POLI OREO TAKSIDI ME OXI
                                  PERISSOTERO APO 3 B, APO KALYMNO KAI KATO, O AERAS NA KSERIZONI TA
                                  DENDRA.. MILAS ME ALL PLOIO POY KATEBENEI APO TIN XIO, KAI SOU LEEI..
                                  FILE PNIGOMASTE... POS NA TON PISTEPSIS, KAI POS NA SE PISTEPSI
                                  AFTOS.

                                  YPARXOUN POLLES SXETIKES EMPEIRIES,KAI ANALOGA GEGONOTA..

                                  DISTIXOS EXEI PAPSEI H SYNERGASIA PLOION ME METEOROLOGIA, OPOS
                                  GINOTAN PALAIOTERA ESTO KAI PLIMELOS.

                                  TO KALLITERO DELTIO KAIROU, EINAI AFTO POU DINEI ENA ALLO PLOIO
                                  MPROSTA APO ESENA STIN IDIA PERIPOY THALASIA PERIOXH, ALLA SE OTI
                                  AFORA TIS ELLINIKES THALASSES THELI PROSOXI, KAI ARKETI EPIKINONIA
                                  METAKSY TON PLOION.

                                  TELEIONONTAS , THA PO , OTI TA APAGOREFTIKA TIS PERISSOTERES FORES
                                  BOLEBOUN TIS ETAIREIES, DIOTI OTAN SYMBENOUN H KINISI EINAI EK
                                  PROIMIOU XAMILH, EPOMENOS GIATI NA GINI TO DROMOLOIO ARNHTIKO??

                                  XAIRETISMOUS












                                  --- Albert Levis <albert_levis@...> wrote:
                                  > Gianni kalispera
                                  >
                                  > Simasia exei oti oso kai na
                                  > xanomaste...ksanavriskomaste,kai afto einai to
                                  > efxaristo.
                                  > Symfwnwn kai egw oti prepei na allazoume to topic
                                  > kathe fora pou apo ena thema pidame se allo,alla
                                  > tyxainei kammia fora na...variomaste,opote prokyptei
                                  > to episimainomeno mperdema.
                                  > Sxetika me tin aporia sou,mipws anaferotan stin
                                  > "asylia" pou apolamvanoun kapoia ploia enanti twn
                                  > apagoreftikwn?
                                  >
                                  > --- GIANI MITAKIDI <mbrosgr@...> wrote:
                                  > > GOOD DAY EVERYBODY
                                  > >
                                  > > NOMIZO OTI KAPOU XATHIKA H XATHIKAME...
                                  > > KALO THA EINAI, NA APANTAME AKRIBOS STA TOPICS POU
                                  > > ANAFERETAI O
                                  > > KATHENAS MAS, OSTE NA MPOROUME NA SYNDEOUME KAI TIS
                                  > > APANTISEIS.
                                  > > EPISIS, KATHE FORA POU ENA NEO THEMA SYNDEETE ME TO
                                  > > PROIGOUMENO, NA
                                  > > ALLAZOUME TO THEMA, DIOTI MOU EKANE ENTIPOSI NA
                                  > > BLEPO SE PERIPOU 40
                                  > > MYNIMATA NA EINAI RE:ARIADNI, KAI MESA NA EXEI KAI
                                  > > ALLA PARELKOMENA
                                  > > THEMATA.
                                  > >
                                  > > ETSI LOIPON, EGO EGRAPSA MIA APORIA MOU, GIA TIN
                                  > > OPOIA DEN PIRA
                                  > > APANTISI, KAI AFTO NOMIZO LOGO TON DYSKOLION POU
                                  > > ANAFYONTAI, ME TA
                                  > > ANAFEROMENA STIN ARXI, PIO PANO.
                                  > >
                                  > > DEN THA ANAFERTHO EKTENESTERA, GIATI NOMIZO OTI OI
                                  > > IDIES LEPTOMERIES
                                  > > THA SYZITITHOUN SYNTOMA KAI SE ALLA PARAPLISIA
                                  > > THEMATA.
                                  > >
                                  > > TO MONO POU THA PO EINAI OTI TO BLUE STAR EXEI
                                  > > PROORISMO TA XANIA KAI
                                  > > OXI TO IRAKLIO.
                                  > >
                                  > > MA EISTE KALA OLOI
                                  > >
                                  > > GIANNI
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > --- MANOS PAPADAKIS <tritonsvkr@...> wrote:
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Pote to Knossos kai to festos den taxideyoun apo 9
                                  > > kai pano.Kai
                                  > > > kala oti
                                  > > > thalassa kai na exei de nomizo oti exoun
                                  > > provlima.Ego exo
                                  > > > taxideypsi me to
                                  > > > palio Knossos me 10 kai den eixame provlima peran
                                  > > apo polli
                                  > > > kounima,pragma
                                  > > > pou to torino Knossos den antimetopizei logo
                                  > > taxititas.An fygoun
                                  > > > kanonika
                                  > > > oti kairo kai na synantisoun sto dromo den
                                  > > satamtane se kanena
                                  > > > limani.To
                                  > > > mono provlima pou mporo na po gia to Iraklio einai
                                  > > to limani.H
                                  > > > mpouka einai
                                  > > > anatoliki kai otan fysaei vorias mporei na se
                                  > > rixei sta vraxia.
                                  > > > Manos Papadakis
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > > >From: Albert Levis <albert_levis@...>
                                  > > > >Reply-To:
                                  > > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
                                  > > > >To:
                                  > > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
                                  > > > >Subject: Re: [Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries]
                                  > > Re: ������ ���
                                  > > > HSF ARIADNE
                                  > > > >PALACE
                                  > > > >Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 12:37:44 -0800 (PST)
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > >Prin ligo diavasa ena minima tou Alex pou elege
                                  > > oti ta
                                  > > > >Knossos kai festos mazi me ta blue star einai ta
                                  > > mona
                                  > > > >pou taksidevoun otan exei apagoreftiko.Pantws exe
                                  > > > >ypopsin sou oti to Ionio kai i Adriatiki einai
                                  > > pio
                                  > > > >kleisti thalassa apo to Aigaio kai epomenws ena
                                  > > oktari
                                  > > > >den exei tis idies epiptwseis (den paragei ton
                                  > > idio
                                  > > > >kymatismo).Afto simainei pws sto men Ionio
                                  > > mporeis na
                                  > > > >pas kai me 8 bofor (me megalo ploio fysika,oxi me
                                  > > to
                                  > > > >Dimitrios Moiras pou pigaine Kyllini-Zakyntho...)
                                  > > sto
                                  > > > >de Aigaio isws akoma kai ta megala ploia na
                                  > > synantoun
                                  > > > >dyskolies.Oso gia ta krouazieroploia san to
                                  > > Stella
                                  > > > >Oceanis (pou einai mikro ontws) den kserw pws ta
                                  > > > >katafernoun.Pantws to sygkekrimeno (Stella
                                  > > Oceanis) to
                                  > > > >exw dei xeimwniatika prymnodetimeno (kai oxi
                                  > > > >plagiodetimeno pou simainei oti etoimazetai gia
                                  > > > >krouaziera) stou Tzelepi mazi me ta alla pou
                                  > > kanoun
                                  > > > >xeimerini akinisia.
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > >--- MANOS PAPADAKIS <tritonsvkr@...>
                                  > > wrote:
                                  > > > > > Pisteyo oti tha erthei kairos pou tha
                                  > > anagastoun na
                                  > > > > > katevasoun tis times.Ego
                                  > > > > > thelo na thixo kai ena allo thema.Einai
                                  > > dynaton
                                  > > > > > ploia san to Festos kai
                                  > > > > > Knossos palace na kathontai s ena limani
                                  > > epeidi o
                                  > > > > > aeras einai 8 mpofor kai
                                  > > > > > apo tin patra na feygoun kanonika kai na min
                                  > > ta
                                  > > > > > pianei apagoreytiko, episis
                                  > > > > > kai kati krouazieroploia tipou Stella Oceanis
                                  > > na
                                  > > > > > taxideyoun synexeia?
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > > >From: Albert Levis <albert_levis@...>
                                  > > > > > >Reply-To:
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
                                  > > > > > >To:
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
                                  > > > > > >Subject: Re:
                                  > > [Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries]
                                  > > > > > Re: ������ ��� HSF ARIADNE
                                  > > > > > >PALACE
                                  > > > > > >Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 13:41:33 -0800 (PST)
                                  > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > >Gia to Rethymno exw akousei kai egw oti to
                                  > > limani
                                  > > > > > tou
                                  > > > > > >einai kapws "retro",malista ston EFOPLISTI
                                  > > eixa
                                  > > > > > >diavasei oti to Preveli kanei arketi wra na
                                  > > desei
                                  > > > > > >giati to limani einai sxetika mikro kai i
                                  > > manouvra
                                  > > > > > >prepei na ginei siga-siga.
                                  > > > > > >Sxetika me ton Strintzi,nomizw oti exeis
                                  > > dikio kai
                                  > > > > > oti
                                  > > > > > >to Blue Star 2 pigainei sta xania kai oxi sto
                                  > > > > > >irakleio.Profanws mperdeftika epeidi to exw
                                  > > dei
                                  > > > > > >mia-dyo fores ston peiraia na peftei se
                                  > > destres
                                  > > > > > opou
                                  > > > > > >synithws pane ta ploia gia Irakleio (genikws
                                  > > > > > ginetai
                                  > > > > > >enas psiloxamos stin provlita pou pane ta
                                  > > ploia twn
                                  > > > > > >kritikwn dromologiwn alla eftyxws oudepote
                                  > > exasa
                                  > > > > > ploio
                                  > > > > > >gia kriti eksaitias aftou tou gegonotos).Gia
                                  > > tous
                                  > > > > > >navlous,persi to kalokairi sti diadromi
                                  > > > > > Patra-Kerkyra
                                  > > > > > >plirwsa 22 euro stin minoan (me to Ikaros
                                  > > Palace)
                                  > > > > > enw
                                  > > > > > >gia Kekryra-Patra me to blue sky tou strintzi
                                  > > > > > plirwsa
                                  > > > > > >19,27.Profanws tha eprepe i minoan na valei
                                  > > sta
                                  > > > > > >fougara twn ploiwn tis kai ton prasino stavro
                                  > > pou
                                  > > > > > >exoun ap'eksw ta farmakeia xexe.
                                  > > > > > >Telos,apo oso kserw,ta Matala kai i Agia
                                  > > Galini
                                  > > > > > einai
                                  > > > > > >touristika meri kai toulaxiston to kalokairi
                                  > > tha
                                  > > > > > >eprepe na exoun apeftheias sygkoinwnia an mi
                                  > > ti
                                  > > > > > allo
                                  > > > > > >me to Irakleio kai oxi apo to Irakleio na
                                  > > > > > katevaineis
                                  > > > > > >stis Moires kai na perimeneis mia wra na
                                  > > erthei to
                                  > > > > > >allo lewforeio na se paei stin faisto kai apo
                                  > > ekei
                                  > > > > > >allo na se katevasei sta Matala.Elpizw pws ta
                                  > > > > > pragmata
                                  > > > > > >tha exoun ftiaksei twra,giati gia fetos to
                                  > >
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                                  Kalispera Gianni, Otan oloi mas exoume kali diathesi kai proairesi kai syzitoume oxi me skopo tin proswpiki antipalotita alla tin syntrofiki antallagi
                                  Message 16 of 29 , Mar 13, 2003
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                                    Kalispera Gianni,

                                    Otan oloi mas exoume kali diathesi kai proairesi kai
                                    syzitoume oxi me skopo tin proswpiki antipalotita alla
                                    tin syntrofiki antallagi apopsewn,opws symbainei
                                    allwste se afto to newsgroup,sigoura kai sofwteroi
                                    ginomaste afou symmetexoun stis syzitiseis kai eidikoi
                                    epi twn thematwn,kai efxarista noiwthoume,wste
                                    symmetexoume kathimerina (oso mas epitrepoun oi
                                    ypoxrewseis pou mas epiballei i zwi).

                                    Apo oti blepw exeis arketes gnwseis kai empeiries panw
                                    sto thema.Opws eipa kai se allo mou minyma,egw den
                                    exei tyxei na taksidepsw pote ton xeimwna me
                                    ploio.Einai omws gnwston oti genika o kairos mporei na
                                    exei tromeri anomoiogeneia akoma kai se geitonikes
                                    perioxes,epomenws plirofories pou pairneis apo mia
                                    apomakrysmeni sxetika perioxi den exoun megali
                                    aksiopistia.

                                    Epeidi tyxainei na asxoloumai erasitexnika kai me tin
                                    aeroporia (diladi diavazw kai parakolouthw tis
                                    ekselikseis),opou i lipsi metewrologikwn problepsewn
                                    einai aparaititi gia na ksekinisei ena aeroskafos kai
                                    opou exoun thespistei kanonismoi kai oria kairikwn
                                    synthikwn pou prepei na isxyoun gia na ginei mia
                                    ptisi,pistevw oti analoges diadikasies tha prepei na
                                    efarmozwntai kai stin nafsiploia.Diladi prin apo ton
                                    apoplou na lamvanetai mia provlepsi kairou oxi mono
                                    gia to limani proorismou alla kai gia endiameses
                                    perioxes kathws kai gia enallaktika limania (se
                                    periptwsi diladi pou den mporei to ploio na piasei sto
                                    limani tou dromologiou tou).Kai fysika,opws les kai
                                    esy,na yparxei perissoteri epikoinwnia metaksy twn
                                    ploiwn.
                                    Telos,i apopsi oti ta apagoreftika volevoun tis
                                    etaireies einai en merei swsti,diladi se oti afora to
                                    Aigaio,opou i kinisi einai epoxiki (poios paei
                                    xeimwniatika stin Andro p.x.,akoma kai ta Xristougenna
                                    i tis Apokries...).Mou exei tyxei na dw na ftanei ston
                                    peiraia ploio apo kyklades kai na katevainoun apo mesa
                                    deka epivates podaratoi kai to gkaraz tou ploiou na
                                    einai teleiws adeio.Omws afto den simainei oti ta
                                    limenarxeia vgazoun apagoreftika enw oi synthikes
                                    einai apodektes gia plefsi,gia na empodisoun tis
                                    etaireies na kanoun zimiogona dromologia.Aplws otan
                                    tyxainei na einai toso xalia o kairos wste na vgalei
                                    apagoreftiko to limenarxeio,oi etaireies den
                                    stenoxwriountai kai poly afou outws i allws ton
                                    xeimwna genikws den exei kinisi,opote toulaxiston
                                    xanoun ligwtera otan to ploio einai demeno.


                                    --- GIANI MITAKIDI <mbrosgr@...> wrote:
                                    > ALBERT KAI YPOLIPOI KYRIOI
                                    > KALISPERA
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > POLLES FORES NIOTHO TIN ANAGI, NA APANTISO GIA NA
                                    > DIEFKRINISO
                                    > TA ANAFEROMENA SE KAPIO THEMA, KAI IDIAITERA SE
                                    > SOBARES ANAFORES,
                                    > OPOU TO SXOLIO, GINETE ME PARAMETROUS MH
                                    > EIDIKOTEROUS.
                                    >
                                    > OS EK TOUTOU THA PARATIRISETE, OTI PANTA KANO
                                    > EROTISEIS
                                    > DIEFKRINISTIKES, H ANAFEROME SE KATI SXETIKO DIKO
                                    > MOU.
                                    >
                                    > KATALABENETE OTI, OS PROS TIN ALLAGI TOU SUBJECT,
                                    > DEN EINAI TO EAN
                                    > THA XATHOUME KAI THA KSAMABRETHOUME, ALLA
                                    > PITHANOTERI EINAI H
                                    > PARAKSIGISI, KAI H APAKSIA AFTIS TIS SYMMETOXHS MAS
                                    > STO GROUP.
                                    > EPITHIMO, APO TIN EPAFI OLON MAS, NA BGENI KAI KATI
                                    > STO TELOS,
                                    > OSTE NA NIOTHOUME KAI SOFOTEROI..
                                    >
                                    > TORA SXETIKA ME TA APAGOREFTIKA..
                                    >
                                    > 1. OI THALASSES MAS EINAI IDIOMORFES. AFTO TO
                                    > KATALABENOUN OSOI TIS
                                    > TAKSIDEVOUN STA ORIA TON SYGEKRIMENO PERIOXON OPOU
                                    > ANAFERONTAI TA
                                    > DELTIA. PROSOPIKES EMPEIRIES, OLO TO EGEO BRAZEI
                                    > 9-10 BORIADES.
                                    > APAGOREFTIKO STO PEIRAIA GIA DODEKANISA, STIS 23.00
                                    > ME TIN ALLAGI TOU
                                    > DELTIOU IPARXI KALITEREYSI KERIKON SINTHIKON, OPOTE
                                    > KAI ANAXOREI TO
                                    > PLOIO. OLOI KOUMPOMENOI, SKEPTIKOI, GIA TO TI THA
                                    > SINANTISOUME STO
                                    > DROMO. MHNAS DEKEMBRIOS, MEXRI TIN LERO ENA POLI
                                    > OREO TAKSIDI ME OXI
                                    > PERISSOTERO APO 3 B, APO KALYMNO KAI KATO, O AERAS
                                    > NA KSERIZONI TA
                                    > DENDRA.. MILAS ME ALL PLOIO POY KATEBENEI APO TIN
                                    > XIO, KAI SOU LEEI..
                                    > FILE PNIGOMASTE... POS NA TON PISTEPSIS, KAI POS NA
                                    > SE PISTEPSI
                                    > AFTOS.
                                    >
                                    > YPARXOUN POLLES SXETIKES EMPEIRIES,KAI ANALOGA
                                    > GEGONOTA..
                                    >
                                    > DISTIXOS EXEI PAPSEI H SYNERGASIA PLOION ME
                                    > METEOROLOGIA, OPOS
                                    > GINOTAN PALAIOTERA ESTO KAI PLIMELOS.
                                    >
                                    > TO KALLITERO DELTIO KAIROU, EINAI AFTO POU DINEI ENA
                                    > ALLO PLOIO
                                    > MPROSTA APO ESENA STIN IDIA PERIPOY THALASIA
                                    > PERIOXH, ALLA SE OTI
                                    > AFORA TIS ELLINIKES THALASSES THELI PROSOXI, KAI
                                    > ARKETI EPIKINONIA
                                    > METAKSY TON PLOION.
                                    >
                                    > TELEIONONTAS , THA PO , OTI TA APAGOREFTIKA TIS
                                    > PERISSOTERES FORES
                                    > BOLEBOUN TIS ETAIREIES, DIOTI OTAN SYMBENOUN H
                                    > KINISI EINAI EK
                                    > PROIMIOU XAMILH, EPOMENOS GIATI NA GINI TO DROMOLOIO
                                    > ARNHTIKO??
                                    >
                                    > XAIRETISMOUS
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > --- Albert Levis <albert_levis@...> wrote:
                                    > > Gianni kalispera
                                    > >
                                    > > Simasia exei oti oso kai na
                                    > > xanomaste...ksanavriskomaste,kai afto einai to
                                    > > efxaristo.
                                    > > Symfwnwn kai egw oti prepei na allazoume to topic
                                    > > kathe fora pou apo ena thema pidame se allo,alla
                                    > > tyxainei kammia fora na...variomaste,opote
                                    > prokyptei
                                    > > to episimainomeno mperdema.
                                    > > Sxetika me tin aporia sou,mipws anaferotan stin
                                    > > "asylia" pou apolamvanoun kapoia ploia enanti twn
                                    > > apagoreftikwn?
                                    > >
                                    > > --- GIANI MITAKIDI <mbrosgr@...> wrote:
                                    > > > GOOD DAY EVERYBODY
                                    > > >
                                    > > > NOMIZO OTI KAPOU XATHIKA H XATHIKAME...
                                    > > > KALO THA EINAI, NA APANTAME AKRIBOS STA TOPICS
                                    > POU
                                    > > > ANAFERETAI O
                                    > > > KATHENAS MAS, OSTE NA MPOROUME NA SYNDEOUME KAI
                                    > TIS
                                    > > > APANTISEIS.
                                    > > > EPISIS, KATHE FORA POU ENA NEO THEMA SYNDEETE ME
                                    > TO
                                    > > > PROIGOUMENO, NA
                                    > > > ALLAZOUME TO THEMA, DIOTI MOU EKANE ENTIPOSI NA
                                    > > > BLEPO SE PERIPOU 40
                                    > > > MYNIMATA NA EINAI RE:ARIADNI, KAI MESA NA EXEI
                                    > KAI
                                    > > > ALLA PARELKOMENA
                                    > > > THEMATA.
                                    > > >
                                    > > > ETSI LOIPON, EGO EGRAPSA MIA APORIA MOU, GIA TIN
                                    > > > OPOIA DEN PIRA
                                    > > > APANTISI, KAI AFTO NOMIZO LOGO TON DYSKOLION POU
                                    > > > ANAFYONTAI, ME TA
                                    > > > ANAFEROMENA STIN ARXI, PIO PANO.
                                    > > >
                                    > > > DEN THA ANAFERTHO EKTENESTERA, GIATI NOMIZO OTI
                                    > OI
                                    > > > IDIES LEPTOMERIES
                                    > > > THA SYZITITHOUN SYNTOMA KAI SE ALLA PARAPLISIA
                                    > > > THEMATA.
                                    > > >
                                    > > > TO MONO POU THA PO EINAI OTI TO BLUE STAR EXEI
                                    > > > PROORISMO TA XANIA KAI
                                    > > > OXI TO IRAKLIO.
                                    > > >
                                    > > > MA EISTE KALA OLOI
                                    > > >
                                    > > > GIANNI
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > >
                                    > > > --- MANOS PAPADAKIS <tritonsvkr@...>
                                    > wrote:
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > Pote to Knossos kai to festos den taxideyoun
                                    > apo 9
                                    > > > kai pano.Kai
                                    > > > > kala oti
                                    > > > > thalassa kai na exei de nomizo oti exoun
                                    > > > provlima.Ego exo
                                    > > > > taxideypsi me to
                                    > > > > palio Knossos me 10 kai den eixame provlima
                                    > peran
                                    > > > apo polli
                                    > > > > kounima,pragma
                                    > > > > pou to torino Knossos den antimetopizei logo
                                    > > > taxititas.An fygoun
                                    > > > > kanonika
                                    > > > > oti kairo kai na synantisoun sto dromo den
                                    > > > satamtane se kanena
                                    > > > > limani.To
                                    > > > > mono provlima pou mporo na po gia to Iraklio
                                    > einai
                                    > > > to limani.H
                                    > > > > mpouka einai
                                    > > > > anatoliki kai otan fysaei vorias mporei na se
                                    > > > rixei sta vraxia.
                                    > > > > Manos Papadakis
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > >From: Albert Levis <albert_levis@...>
                                    > > > > >Reply-To:
                                    > > >
                                    > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
                                    > > > > >To:
                                    > > >
                                    > Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries@yahoogroups.com
                                    > > > > >Subject: Re:
                                    > [Greek_Liners_Cruise_Ships_Ferries]
                                    > > > Re: ������ ���
                                    > > > > HSF ARIADNE
                                    > > > > >PALACE
                                    > > > > >Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 12:37:44 -0800 (PST)
                                    > > > > >
                                    > > > > >Prin ligo diavasa ena minima tou Alex pou
                                    > elege
                                    > > > oti ta
                                    > > > > >Knossos kai festos mazi me ta blue star einai
                                    > ta
                                    > > > mona
                                    > > > > >pou taksidevoun otan exei apagoreftiko.Pantws
                                    > exe
                                    > > > > >ypopsin sou oti to Ionio kai i Adriatiki
                                    > einai
                                    >
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                                    KALISPERA ALBERT KAI SE OLOUS, 1. SYMFONO, KAI DEN NOMIZO OTI MPOREI NA MAS APASXOLISOUN ANTIPALOTITES, SE AFTO TO GROUP. 2. METEORLOGIKES ANAKOINOSEIS
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                                      KALISPERA ALBERT KAI SE OLOUS,

                                      1. SYMFONO, KAI DEN NOMIZO OTI MPOREI NA MAS
                                      APASXOLISOUN ANTIPALOTITES, SE AFTO TO GROUP.

                                      2. METEORLOGIKES ANAKOINOSEIS GINONTAI KATHE 8 ORES
                                      PERIPOU ( EAN DEN KANO LATHOS).
                                      ANAFEREI TON KAIRO KATA PERIOXES, KAI STO TELOS TIN
                                      PROBLEPSI.

                                      EPOMENOS KATHE PLOIO, GNORIZEI TON KAIRO GIA TIN
                                      PERIOXI POU THA TAKSIDEPSI, ALLA KAI TIN PROBLEPSI GIA
                                      TON KAIRO POU THA AKOLOUTHISI.

                                      3. STIS ELLINIKES THALASES , SYXNA AKOUS EPIBATES NA
                                      LENE... TI MPOUNATSA MAS LEGANE STIN TV, EDO BGALAME
                                      TA ANTERA MAS.. H TO ANTITHETO... PARA LIGO NA MIN PAO
                                      GIA TON PROORISMO MOU, EPEIDH AKOUSA OTI EXEI POLLH
                                      FOURTOUNA, ENO EINAI MPOUNATSA..

                                      AFTI EINAI H IDIAITEROTHTA TON ELLINIKON THALASSON, H
                                      OPOIA EINAI APROBLEPTI, LOGO THS POLYNISIAS KAI THS
                                      YPARKSIS ZESTON KAI KRION THERMOKRASION STIN PERIOXI
                                      MAS.

                                      4.TA LIMENARXEIA DEN BGAZOUN APAGOREFTIKA.
                                      PAIRNOUN TO DELTIO KAIROU, KAI ANALOGA ME TIN ENTASI
                                      TOU AERA ALLA KAI TIN PERIOXI POU TAKSIDEVEI ENA
                                      THALASSIO MESON, EPITREPOUN H APAGOREVOUN
                                      SYGEKRIMENOUS PLOUS KAI PLOIA.


                                      DISTIXOS, GIA MENA EIXE APAGOREFTIKO SIMERA LOGO
                                      KAIROU, KAI DEN EKANA TIN BOLTA MOU, PARALIMENIA..

                                      NA EISTE OLOI KALA
                                      XAIRETISMOUS



                                      --- Albert Levis <albert_levis@...> wrote:
                                      > Kalispera Gianni,
                                      >
                                      > Otan oloi mas exoume kali diathesi kai proairesi kai
                                      > syzitoume oxi me skopo tin proswpiki antipalotita
                                      > alla
                                      > tin syntrofiki antallagi apopsewn,opws symbainei
                                      > allwste se afto to newsgroup,sigoura kai sofwteroi
                                      > ginomaste afou symmetexoun stis syzitiseis kai
                                      > eidikoi
                                      > epi twn thematwn,kai efxarista noiwthoume,wste
                                      > symmetexoume kathimerina (oso mas epitrepoun oi
                                      > ypoxrewseis pou mas epiballei i zwi).
                                      >
                                      > Apo oti blepw exeis arketes gnwseis kai empeiries
                                      > panw
                                      > sto thema.Opws eipa kai se allo mou minyma,egw den
                                      > exei tyxei na taksidepsw pote ton xeimwna me
                                      > ploio.Einai omws gnwston oti genika o kairos mporei
                                      > na
                                      > exei tromeri anomoiogeneia akoma kai se geitonikes
                                      > perioxes,epomenws plirofories pou pairneis apo mia
                                      > apomakrysmeni sxetika perioxi den exoun megali
                                      > aksiopistia.
                                      >
                                      > Epeidi tyxainei na asxoloumai erasitexnika kai me
                                      > tin
                                      > aeroporia (diladi diavazw kai parakolouthw tis
                                      > ekselikseis),opou i lipsi metewrologikwn problepsewn
                                      > einai aparaititi gia na ksekinisei ena aeroskafos
                                      > kai
                                      > opou exoun thespistei kanonismoi kai oria kairikwn
                                      > synthikwn pou prepei na isxyoun gia na ginei mia
                                      > ptisi,pistevw oti analoges diadikasies tha prepei na
                                      > efarmozwntai kai stin nafsiploia.Diladi prin apo ton
                                      > apoplou na lamvanetai mia provlepsi kairou oxi mono
                                      > gia to limani proorismou alla kai gia endiameses
                                      > perioxes kathws kai gia enallaktika limania (se
                                      > periptwsi diladi pou den mporei to ploio na piasei
                                      > sto
                                      > limani tou dromologiou tou).Kai fysika,opws les kai
                                      > esy,na yparxei perissoteri epikoinwnia metaksy twn
                                      > ploiwn.
                                      > Telos,i apopsi oti ta apagoreftika volevoun tis
                                      > etaireies einai en merei swsti,diladi se oti afora
                                      > to
                                      > Aigaio,opou i kinisi einai epoxiki (poios paei
                                      > xeimwniatika stin Andro p.x.,akoma kai ta
                                      > Xristougenna
                                      > i tis Apokries...).Mou exei tyxei na dw na ftanei
                                      > ston
                                      > peiraia ploio apo kyklades kai na katevainoun apo
                                      > mesa
                                      > deka epivates podaratoi kai to gkaraz tou ploiou na
                                      > einai teleiws adeio.Omws afto den simainei oti ta
                                      > limenarxeia vgazoun apagoreftika enw oi synthikes
                                      > einai apodektes gia plefsi,gia na empodisoun tis
                                      > etaireies na kanoun zimiogona dromologia.Aplws otan
                                      > tyxainei na einai toso xalia o kairos wste na vgalei
                                      > apagoreftiko to limenarxeio,oi etaireies den
                                      > stenoxwriountai kai poly afou outws i allws ton
                                      > xeimwna genikws den exei kinisi,opote toulaxiston
                                      > xanoun ligwtera otan to ploio einai demeno.
                                      >
                                      >
                                      > --- GIANI MITAKIDI <mbrosgr@...> wrote:
                                      > > ALBERT KAI YPOLIPOI KYRIOI
                                      > > KALISPERA
                                      > >
                                      > >
                                      > > POLLES FORES NIOTHO TIN ANAGI, NA APANTISO GIA NA
                                      > > DIEFKRINISO
                                      > > TA ANAFEROMENA SE KAPIO THEMA, KAI IDIAITERA SE
                                      > > SOBARES ANAFORES,
                                      > > OPOU TO SXOLIO, GINETE ME PARAMETROUS MH
                                      > > EIDIKOTEROUS.
                                      > >
                                      > > OS EK TOUTOU THA PARATIRISETE, OTI PANTA KANO
                                      > > EROTISEIS
                                      > > DIEFKRINISTIKES, H ANAFEROME SE KATI SXETIKO DIKO
                                      > > MOU.
                                      > >
                                      > > KATALABENETE OTI, OS PROS TIN ALLAGI TOU SUBJECT,
                                      > > DEN EINAI TO EAN
                                      > > THA XATHOUME KAI THA KSAMABRETHOUME, ALLA
                                      > > PITHANOTERI EINAI H
                                      > > PARAKSIGISI, KAI H APAKSIA AFTIS TIS SYMMETOXHS
                                      > MAS
                                      > > STO GROUP.
                                      > > EPITHIMO, APO TIN EPAFI OLON MAS, NA BGENI KAI
                                      > KATI
                                      > > STO TELOS,
                                      > > OSTE NA NIOTHOUME KAI SOFOTEROI..
                                      > >
                                      > > TORA SXETIKA ME TA APAGOREFTIKA..
                                      > >
                                      > > 1. OI THALASSES MAS EINAI IDIOMORFES. AFTO TO
                                      > > KATALABENOUN OSOI TIS
                                      > > TAKSIDEVOUN STA ORIA TON SYGEKRIMENO PERIOXON OPOU
                                      > > ANAFERONTAI TA
                                      > > DELTIA. PROSOPIKES EMPEIRIES, OLO TO EGEO BRAZEI
                                      > > 9-10 BORIADES.
                                      > > APAGOREFTIKO STO PEIRAIA GIA DODEKANISA, STIS
                                      > 23.00
                                      > > ME TIN ALLAGI TOU
                                      > > DELTIOU IPARXI KALITEREYSI KERIKON SINTHIKON,
                                      > OPOTE
                                      > > KAI ANAXOREI TO
                                      > > PLOIO. OLOI KOUMPOMENOI, SKEPTIKOI, GIA TO TI THA
                                      > > SINANTISOUME STO
                                      > > DROMO. MHNAS DEKEMBRIOS, MEXRI TIN LERO ENA POLI
                                      > > OREO TAKSIDI ME OXI
                                      > > PERISSOTERO APO 3 B, APO KALYMNO KAI KATO, O AERAS
                                      > > NA KSERIZONI TA
                                      > > DENDRA.. MILAS ME ALL PLOIO POY KATEBENEI APO TIN
                                      > > XIO, KAI SOU LEEI..
                                      > > FILE PNIGOMASTE... POS NA TON PISTEPSIS, KAI POS
                                      > NA
                                      > > SE PISTEPSI
                                      > > AFTOS.
                                      > >
                                      > > YPARXOUN POLLES SXETIKES EMPEIRIES,KAI ANALOGA
                                      > > GEGONOTA..
                                      > >
                                      > > DISTIXOS EXEI PAPSEI H SYNERGASIA PLOION ME
                                      > > METEOROLOGIA, OPOS
                                      > > GINOTAN PALAIOTERA ESTO KAI PLIMELOS.
                                      > >
                                      > > TO KALLITERO DELTIO KAIROU, EINAI AFTO POU DINEI
                                      > ENA
                                      > > ALLO PLOIO
                                      > > MPROSTA APO ESENA STIN IDIA PERIPOY THALASIA
                                      > > PERIOXH, ALLA SE OTI
                                      > > AFORA TIS ELLINIKES THALASSES THELI PROSOXI, KAI
                                      > > ARKETI EPIKINONIA
                                      > > METAKSY TON PLOION.
                                      > >
                                      > > TELEIONONTAS , THA PO , OTI TA APAGOREFTIKA TIS
                                      > > PERISSOTERES FORES
                                      > > BOLEBOUN TIS ETAIREIES, DIOTI OTAN SYMBENOUN H
                                      > > KINISI EINAI EK
                                      > > PROIMIOU XAMILH, EPOMENOS GIATI NA GINI TO
                                      > DROMOLOIO
                                      > > ARNHTIKO??
                                      > >
                                      > > XAIRETISMOUS
                                      >

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                                      Kalispera file sealover, 1.Dystyxws egw eprepe na paw sto grafeio estw kai m afton ton paliokairo.Makari na evgaze kai to ypourgeio ergasias apagoreftika (kai
                                      Message 18 of 29 , Mar 17, 2003
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                                        Kalispera file sealover,

                                        1.Dystyxws egw eprepe na paw sto grafeio estw kai
                                        m'afton ton paliokairo.Makari na evgaze kai to
                                        ypourgeio ergasias apagoreftika (kai eidikws gia tin
                                        sygkekrimeni perioxi opou doulevw,wste na kathomoun
                                        kai egw eis to spitaki mou:)

                                        2.Dia tin asfaleian twn ploiwn ek twn dysmenwn
                                        kairikwn synthikwn,i EMY ekpempei ek tou paraktiou
                                        stathmou A/T ATHINAI RADIO SVA......kanonikws dyo
                                        foras kata tin diarkeian tou 24wrou kai kata tas wras
                                        09.45 kai 21.45 GMT.Epi pleon twn anwterw deltiwn
                                        ekpempontai eidika deltia eis periptwsin
                                        xeiroterefsews i veltiwsews tou kairou (Ek tou vivliou
                                        "Naftiki Metewrologia" ypo Evaggelou Vourlaki-o opoios
                                        simeiwteon itan aeroporos alla edidakse kai stis
                                        sxoles tou limenikou.To vivlio bebaia einai kapws
                                        palio,ekdosi tou 1961,alla den nomizw na exoun
                                        allaksei polla pragmata stis diadikasies ekpompis
                                        deltiwn "dia tous naftillomenous").

                                        3.Opws exw pei kai se alla minimata mou,den mou exei
                                        tyxei na taksidepsw me ploio xeimwniatika.To kalokairi
                                        omws pou taksidevw,genika o kairos den parousiazei
                                        apotomes allages kai oudepote exw vrethei se fourtoyna
                                        enw pro tou taksidiou stin TV eblepa na lene gia
                                        mpounatsa i to antitheto.Endexetai omws na ypirksa
                                        tyxeros oles aftes tis fores,gi'afto dexomai oti afto
                                        pou les gia tis aprovleptes enallages kairou isxyei.

                                        4.Ta apagoreftika ontws den einai pantote genikis
                                        isxyos.Exei tyxei na vrethw kalokairi sto Agkistri
                                        (mikro nisi apenanti apo tin Aigina) kai logw tou
                                        anemou den epetrapi i proseggisi tou FB ELLAS (pou
                                        einai anoiktou typou) alla mono tou FB SARWNIKOS pou
                                        einai kleistou typou,episis mexri tin teleftaia stigmi
                                        den itan gnwsto an tha efevge to catamaran KERAVNOS I
                                        (gnwsto ws "o mikros keravnos",pros antidiastoli apo
                                        to KERAVNOS II pou einai kata ti megalytero.Eftyxws
                                        eginan kanonika ta dromologia kai twn dyo catamaran
                                        kai etsi den emeina piasmenos sto Agkistri:)).Wstoso
                                        polles fores ekdidontai kai apagoreftika genikis
                                        isxyos.Fantazomai p.x. oti me ton kairo pou eixe
                                        simera,opou o aeras mou dielyse tin omprella (epomenws
                                        kat'analogian skeptomenos symperainw oti stis anoiktes
                                        thalasses tha eixe apo 9ria kai panw),tha itan
                                        adynaton na taksidepsoun akoma kai ta megalytera twn
                                        aktoploikwn mas.

                                        Elpizw (opws oloi mas) na veltiwthei o kairos wste na
                                        doume epitelous mia iliolousti mera...

                                        --- sealover <BETTERATSEA@...> wrote:
                                        > KALISPERA ALBERT KAI SE OLOUS,
                                        >
                                        > 1. SYMFONO, KAI DEN NOMIZO OTI MPOREI NA MAS
                                        > APASXOLISOUN ANTIPALOTITES, SE AFTO TO GROUP.
                                        >
                                        > 2. METEORLOGIKES ANAKOINOSEIS GINONTAI KATHE 8 ORES
                                        > PERIPOU ( EAN DEN KANO LATHOS).
                                        > ANAFEREI TON KAIRO KATA PERIOXES, KAI STO TELOS TIN
                                        > PROBLEPSI.
                                        >
                                        > EPOMENOS KATHE PLOIO, GNORIZEI TON KAIRO GIA TIN
                                        > PERIOXI POU THA TAKSIDEPSI, ALLA KAI TIN PROBLEPSI
                                        > GIA
                                        > TON KAIRO POU THA AKOLOUTHISI.
                                        >
                                        > 3. STIS ELLINIKES THALASES , SYXNA AKOUS EPIBATES NA
                                        > LENE... TI MPOUNATSA MAS LEGANE STIN TV, EDO BGALAME
                                        > TA ANTERA MAS.. H TO ANTITHETO... PARA LIGO NA MIN
                                        > PAO
                                        > GIA TON PROORISMO MOU, EPEIDH AKOUSA OTI EXEI POLLH
                                        > FOURTOUNA, ENO EINAI MPOUNATSA..
                                        >
                                        > AFTI EINAI H IDIAITEROTHTA TON ELLINIKON THALASSON,
                                        > H
                                        > OPOIA EINAI APROBLEPTI, LOGO THS POLYNISIAS KAI THS
                                        > YPARKSIS ZESTON KAI KRION THERMOKRASION STIN PERIOXI
                                        > MAS.
                                        >
                                        > 4.TA LIMENARXEIA DEN BGAZOUN APAGOREFTIKA.
                                        > PAIRNOUN TO DELTIO KAIROU, KAI ANALOGA ME TIN ENTASI
                                        > TOU AERA ALLA KAI TIN PERIOXI POU TAKSIDEVEI ENA
                                        > THALASSIO MESON, EPITREPOUN H APAGOREVOUN
                                        > SYGEKRIMENOUS PLOUS KAI PLOIA.
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > DISTIXOS, GIA MENA EIXE APAGOREFTIKO SIMERA LOGO
                                        > KAIROU, KAI DEN EKANA TIN BOLTA MOU, PARALIMENIA..
                                        >
                                        > NA EISTE OLOI KALA
                                        > XAIRETISMOUS
                                        >
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > --- Albert Levis <albert_levis@...> wrote:
                                        > > Kalispera Gianni,
                                        > >
                                        > > Otan oloi mas exoume kali diathesi kai proairesi
                                        > kai
                                        > > syzitoume oxi me skopo tin proswpiki antipalotita
                                        > > alla
                                        > > tin syntrofiki antallagi apopsewn,opws symbainei
                                        > > allwste se afto to newsgroup,sigoura kai sofwteroi
                                        > > ginomaste afou symmetexoun stis syzitiseis kai
                                        > > eidikoi
                                        > > epi twn thematwn,kai efxarista noiwthoume,wste
                                        > > symmetexoume kathimerina (oso mas epitrepoun oi
                                        > > ypoxrewseis pou mas epiballei i zwi).
                                        > >
                                        > > Apo oti blepw exeis arketes gnwseis kai empeiries
                                        > > panw
                                        > > sto thema.Opws eipa kai se allo mou minyma,egw den
                                        > > exei tyxei na taksidepsw pote ton xeimwna me
                                        > > ploio.Einai omws gnwston oti genika o kairos
                                        > mporei
                                        > > na
                                        > > exei tromeri anomoiogeneia akoma kai se geitonikes
                                        > > perioxes,epomenws plirofories pou pairneis apo mia
                                        > > apomakrysmeni sxetika perioxi den exoun megali
                                        > > aksiopistia.
                                        > >
                                        > > Epeidi tyxainei na asxoloumai erasitexnika kai me
                                        > > tin
                                        > > aeroporia (diladi diavazw kai parakolouthw tis
                                        > > ekselikseis),opou i lipsi metewrologikwn
                                        > problepsewn
                                        > > einai aparaititi gia na ksekinisei ena aeroskafos
                                        > > kai
                                        > > opou exoun thespistei kanonismoi kai oria kairikwn
                                        > > synthikwn pou prepei na isxyoun gia na ginei mia
                                        > > ptisi,pistevw oti analoges diadikasies tha prepei
                                        > na
                                        > > efarmozwntai kai stin nafsiploia.Diladi prin apo
                                        > ton
                                        > > apoplou na lamvanetai mia provlepsi kairou oxi
                                        > mono
                                        > > gia to limani proorismou alla kai gia endiameses
                                        > > perioxes kathws kai gia enallaktika limania (se
                                        > > periptwsi diladi pou den mporei to ploio na piasei
                                        > > sto
                                        > > limani tou dromologiou tou).Kai fysika,opws les
                                        > kai
                                        > > esy,na yparxei perissoteri epikoinwnia metaksy twn
                                        > > ploiwn.
                                        > > Telos,i apopsi oti ta apagoreftika volevoun tis
                                        > > etaireies einai en merei swsti,diladi se oti afora
                                        > > to
                                        > > Aigaio,opou i kinisi einai epoxiki (poios paei
                                        > > xeimwniatika stin Andro p.x.,akoma kai ta
                                        > > Xristougenna
                                        > > i tis Apokries...).Mou exei tyxei na dw na ftanei
                                        > > ston
                                        > > peiraia ploio apo kyklades kai na katevainoun apo
                                        > > mesa
                                        > > deka epivates podaratoi kai to gkaraz tou ploiou
                                        > na
                                        > > einai teleiws adeio.Omws afto den simainei oti ta
                                        > > limenarxeia vgazoun apagoreftika enw oi synthikes
                                        > > einai apodektes gia plefsi,gia na empodisoun tis
                                        > > etaireies na kanoun zimiogona dromologia.Aplws
                                        > otan
                                        > > tyxainei na einai toso xalia o kairos wste na
                                        > vgalei
                                        > > apagoreftiko to limenarxeio,oi etaireies den
                                        > > stenoxwriountai kai poly afou outws i allws ton
                                        > > xeimwna genikws den exei kinisi,opote toulaxiston
                                        > > xanoun ligwtera otan to ploio einai demeno.
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > > --- GIANI MITAKIDI <mbrosgr@...> wrote:
                                        > > > ALBERT KAI YPOLIPOI KYRIOI
                                        > > > KALISPERA
                                        > > >
                                        > > >
                                        > > > POLLES FORES NIOTHO TIN ANAGI, NA APANTISO GIA
                                        > NA
                                        > > > DIEFKRINISO
                                        > > > TA ANAFEROMENA SE KAPIO THEMA, KAI IDIAITERA SE
                                        > > > SOBARES ANAFORES,
                                        > > > OPOU TO SXOLIO, GINETE ME PARAMETROUS MH
                                        > > > EIDIKOTEROUS.
                                        > > >
                                        > > > OS EK TOUTOU THA PARATIRISETE, OTI PANTA KANO
                                        > > > EROTISEIS
                                        > > > DIEFKRINISTIKES, H ANAFEROME SE KATI SXETIKO
                                        > DIKO
                                        > > > MOU.
                                        > > >
                                        > > > KATALABENETE OTI, OS PROS TIN ALLAGI TOU
                                        > SUBJECT,
                                        > > > DEN EINAI TO EAN
                                        > > > THA XATHOUME KAI THA KSAMABRETHOUME, ALLA
                                        > > > PITHANOTERI EINAI H
                                        > > > PARAKSIGISI, KAI H APAKSIA AFTIS TIS SYMMETOXHS
                                        > > MAS
                                        > > > STO GROUP.
                                        > > > EPITHIMO, APO TIN EPAFI OLON MAS, NA BGENI KAI
                                        > > KATI
                                        > > > STO TELOS,
                                        > > > OSTE NA NIOTHOUME KAI SOFOTEROI..
                                        > > >
                                        > > > TORA SXETIKA ME TA APAGOREFTIKA..
                                        > > >
                                        > > > 1. OI THALASSES MAS EINAI IDIOMORFES. AFTO TO
                                        > > > KATALABENOUN OSOI TIS
                                        > > > TAKSIDEVOUN STA ORIA TON SYGEKRIMENO PERIOXON
                                        > OPOU
                                        > > > ANAFERONTAI TA
                                        > > > DELTIA. PROSOPIKES EMPEIRIES, OLO TO EGEO BRAZEI
                                        > > > 9-10 BORIADES.
                                        > > > APAGOREFTIKO STO PEIRAIA GIA DODEKANISA, STIS
                                        > > 23.00
                                        > > > ME TIN ALLAGI TOU
                                        > > > DELTIOU IPARXI KALITEREYSI KERIKON SINTHIKON,
                                        > > OPOTE
                                        > > > KAI ANAXOREI TO
                                        > > > PLOIO. OLOI KOUMPOMENOI, SKEPTIKOI, GIA TO TI
                                        > THA
                                        > > > SINANTISOUME STO
                                        > > > DROMO. MHNAS DEKEMBRIOS, MEXRI TIN LERO ENA POLI
                                        > > > OREO TAKSIDI ME OXI
                                        > > > PERISSOTERO APO 3 B, APO KALYMNO KAI KATO, O
                                        > AERAS
                                        > > > NA KSERIZONI TA
                                        > > > DENDRA.. MILAS ME ALL PLOIO POY KATEBENEI APO
                                        > TIN
                                        > > > XIO, KAI SOU LEEI..
                                        > > > FILE PNIGOMASTE... POS NA TON PISTEPSIS, KAI
                                        > POS
                                        > > NA
                                        > > > SE PISTEPSI
                                        > > > AFTOS.
                                        > > >
                                        > > > YPARXOUN POLLES SXETIKES EMPEIRIES,KAI ANALOGA
                                        > > > GEGONOTA..
                                        > > >
                                        > > > DISTIXOS EXEI PAPSEI H SYNERGASIA PLOION ME
                                        > > > METEOROLOGIA, OPOS
                                        > > > GINOTAN PALAIOTERA ESTO KAI PLIMELOS.
                                        > > >
                                        > > > TO KALLITERO DELTIO KAIROU, EINAI AFTO POU DINEI
                                        > > ENA
                                        > > > ALLO PLOIO
                                        > > > MPROSTA APO ESENA STIN IDIA PERIPOY THALASIA
                                        > > > PERIOXH, ALLA SE OTI
                                        > > > AFORA TIS ELLINIKES THALASSES THELI PROSOXI, KAI
                                        > > > ARKETI EPIKINONIA
                                        > > > METAKSY TON PLOION.
                                        > > >
                                        > > > TELEIONONTAS , THA PO , OTI TA APAGOREFTIKA TIS
                                        > > > PERISSOTERES FORES
                                        > > > BOLEBOUN TIS ETAIREIES, DIOTI OTAN SYMBENOUN H
                                        >
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