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Re: Anger With Federal Government Not Enough by Chuck Baldwin, December 18, 2009

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  • Jon Roland
    It is important to point out that anger is a matter of degree, and that the degree of anger sufficient to get people to report it on an opinion survey is
    Message 1 of 1 , Dec 18, 2009
      It is important to point out that "anger" is a matter of degree, and that the degree of "anger" sufficient to get people to report it on an opinion survey is far less than the degree sufficient to get people off their keyboards and into the streets.

      It also is not enough to be angry if people don't have a clear path to action and don't know how to associate their feelings to candidates on the ballot.

      See after this quote for a message I recently sent to another list that bears on this.

      But its a start.

      On 12/18/2009 10:39 AM, Chuck Baldwin wrote:
      Anger With Federal Government Not Enough
      By Chuck Baldwin
      December 18, 2009

      This column is archived at

      According to Rasmussen Reports, "Seventy-one percent (71%) of voters
      nationwide say they're at least somewhat angry about the current policies of
      the federal government. That figure includes 46% who are Very Angry.

      "The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that only 27%
      are not angry about the government's policies, including 10% who are Not at
      All Angry."

      The report goes on to say, "The data suggests that the level of anger is
      growing. The 71% who are angry at federal government policies today is up
      five percentage points since September.

      "Even more stunning, the 46% who are Very Angry is up 10 percentage points
      from September."

      The report also states, "The latest numbers show that only nine percent (9%)
      of voters trust the judgment of America's political leaders more than the
      judment of the American people." It further states, "Seventy-one percent
      (71%) believe the federal government has become a special interest group
      that looks out primarily for its own interests. Sixty-eight percent (68%)
      believe that government and big business work together in ways that hurt
      consumers and investors."

      Rasmussen Reports goes on to say that voter opposition to the proposed
      health care plan, government bailouts, and higher taxes is especially high.

      See the report at:


      That Americans are angry with the federal government is nothing new. As a
      general rule, Americans STAY angry with the federal government. So what?
      Nothing changes, anger and discontentment notwithstanding.

      Oh! Occasionally, grassroots effort can be mustered in sufficient quantity
      to stop whatever happens to be the latest effort by the miscreants in
      Washington, D.C., that tramples our freedoms. But only occasionally. The
      only recent triumph I can think of was when G.W. Bush, Lindsey Graham, and
      John McCain tried to ram an amnesty bill for illegal aliens through
      Congress. But never fear, Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid will
      pick up that particular baton soon enough.

      I'm old enough to remember when giving the Panama Canal away was opposed by
      virtually everyone outside the Beltway. It changed nothing. Jimmy Carter and
      Congress gave it away, anyway. Most people oppose the wars in Afghanistan
      and Iraq. So what? Our troops are not only still there, but more are on the
      way. Most people believe children should be allowed to pray and read the
      Bible in school. So what? They still are forbidden from doing so.  Most
      people believed former Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore had the right to post
      the Ten Commandments in his courtroom. So what? He was forced to take them
      down, anyway (and removed from office in the process). I could go on, but
      you get the point.

      Anger and opposition to Washington's policies and edicts--no matter now
      egregious--hardly ever translate into anything beyond words of frustration.
      And Washington politicians don't pay much attention to rhetoric--not even
      their own.

      You see, the wizards in Washington and on Wall Street have us figured out.
      Along with their compatriots in the propaganda press corps, they know that
      no matter how loudly we scream, how much we protest, or how angry we become,
      the system is rigged to protect them. The best we the people can seem to
      come up with is "throwing the bums out" every two or four years. BUT NOTHING
      CHANGES--at least, not in terms of restoring the fundamental principles of
      freedom and constitutional government.

      Throw out George H.W. Bush in 1992, and nothing changes. Throw the Democrats
      out of Congress in 1994, and nothing changes. Throw Bill Clinton's party out
      of the White House in 2000, and nothing changes. Throw out G.W. Bush's
      Republicans in 2008, and nothing changes. The only thing that happens with a
      changing of the guard is an escalation in the pace of whatever version of
      socialism--or Big Government program--is currently in vogue. With Bush it
      meant expanding the Warfare State. With Obama it means expanding the Welfare
      State. But both do everything they can to expand Big Government.

      When will we awaken to the reality that Washington, D.C., has had the
      American people chasing their tails for decades? People, wake up! As long as
      we continue to focus our attention and energy on Washington, D.C., we will
      only continue to supply more rope to those who wish to hang us.

      Washington, D.C., is too far gone to salvage. Admit it! Washington is a
      cesspool, a landfill, and a putrid pond of corruption and duplicity. Neither
      the Republican nor Democratic Party will ever allow a principled
      constitutionalist to become its Presidential nominee. No matter whom we
      elect as President, the beat toward Big-Government socialism and one-world
      internationalism will go on without interruption. Big Government scalawags
      own the entire federal system, including Big Media, Big Business, Big Labor,
      Big Religion, and Big Special Interest Groups. They are all feeding at the
      government teat.

      Therefore, it is absolutely obligatory that freedom-minded Americans refocus
      their attention to electing State legislators, governors, judges and
      sheriffs who will fearlessly defend their God-given liberties. And, as
      plainly and emphatically as I know how to say it, I am telling you: ONLY THE
      STATES CAN DEFEND OUR LIBERTY NOW! And awakening to this reality means we
      will have to completely readjust our thinking and priorities.

      It means awakening to the fact that Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, and Bill
      O'Reilly (and the rest of Big Media's talking heads) are, for the most part,
      irrelevant to providing real solutions to the continuing loss of liberty.
      And, in truth, they are, more often than not, part of the problem, because
      they continue to focus our attention on Washington, D.C., and off the source
      of genuine solution, which lies with the states drawing a constitutional
      line in the sand for freedom. Good grief! Beck and O'Reilly have recently
      even advocated for higher federal taxes! Yeah! That's a real solution: more
      power and money to Washington, D.C. Ughhh!

      Instead of getting all worked up about what Glenn Beck says or what Sarah
      Palin says or what CFR member and Big Government neocon Newt Gingrich says,
      start paying attention to what your State legislators and candidates are

      If we had more State legislators such as Washington State's Matthew Shea;
      Georgia's Bobby Franklin; Pennsylvania's Sam Rohrer; New Hampshire's Dan
      Itse; Michigan's Paul Opsommer; Oklahoma's Randy Brogdon, Sally Kern and
      Charles Key; Montana's Rick Jore, Greg Hinkle, and Joel Boniek; Tennessee's
      Susan Lynn; South Carolina's Michael Pitts and Lee Bright; Missouri's Jim
      Guest and Cynthia Davis; and sheriffs such as South Carolina's Ray Nash,
      Arizona's Richard Mack and Joe Arpaio, Montana's Jay Printz and Shane
      Harrington, etc., it wouldn't matter what those nincompoops inside the
      Beltway do. The federal government cannot violate your rights and steal your
      freedoms without the consent and approbation of your State government.

      Folks, let's get down to where the rubber meets the road: the reason we are
      in the miserable mess we are in is because the states have--either wittingly
      or unwittingly--ceded their authority and independence to Washington, D.C.
      Therefore, it is now critical that states reclaim their authority--authority
      that is duly granted them under the US Constitution.

      All of us who call ourselves conservatives or constitutionalists or
      libertarians (who, no doubt, compose a majority, especially in "red" states)
      need to retake our State governments. Elect a governor who knows how to
      say "No" to the federal government. Elect a State legislature that knows how
      to say "No" to Washington, D.C. Elect sheriffs and State judges who
      understand the Constitution, State sovereignty, and the principles of
      freedom--and who are courageous enough to defend those sacred principles in
      the face of attempted federal usurpation.

      The truth is, for all intents and purposes, we could turn off television
      completely and be in no worse shape. And newspapers are no better. The vast
      majority of them blatantly support and promote Big Government. As Mark Twain
      said, "If you don't read the newspaper, you are uninformed; if you do read
      the newspaper, you are misinformed."

      With Big Media, it's all about Washington politics. Period. For the most
      part, the conservative-liberal/Republican-Democrat paradigm is nothing but a
      distraction at best, and a scam at worst, to keep all of us safely on the
      federal reservation, where we are without hope or recourse to actually
      change anything.

      Ladies and Gentlemen, freedom in America has only one hope: the resurrection
      of State independence and sovereignty. Fortunately, there are rumblings
      around the country that this revival has already begun.

      The last time I checked, some 38 states have introduced Tenth Amendment
      resolutions--or some form of federal nullification proposals--in their State
      assemblies. To follow the status of various states' rights initiatives, keep
      an eye on these two web sites:



      If conservatives/constitutionalists/libertarians would spend as much time
      and energy influencing elections and policies at the State and local levels
      as they attempt to do at the national level, we could turn this floundering
      ship of state around. If he had the support and backing of his State's
      legislature and sheriffs, imagine what ONE constitutionalist governor could
      do. I get goose bumps thinking about it!

      Imagine a State with its own financial system--its own currency, banks,
      regulatory agencies, etc. Imagine a State with its own militia--under the
      authority of the governor only--completely independent from any
      responsibility to the President or federal government. Imagine a State with
      an education system unfettered by the federal Department of Education.
      Imagine a State where the BLM, the FBI, the ATF, and the DEA had to actually
      submit to State law. Imagine a State with no federal bribes, or federal
      "funding" as it is commonly called--except as is constitutionally
      constructed (with no strings attached). Imagine a State with its own health
      care system. Imagine a State with no FEMA--UNLESS INVITED IN. Imagine a
      State that would not allow Washington's spooks to unlawfully spy on
      law-abiding citizens. Imagine a State that actually had a say in how much
      land the federal government could claim for its own. Imagine a State where
      citizens never had to worry about a national ID act. Imagine a State that
      would protect the right of its citizens to freely express their faith in the
      public square. Imagine a State that did not demand that its farmers put RFID
      computer chips in their livestock. Imagine a State that would let you drill
      a well without reporting it to the federal government. And for some really
      fun mind games, imagine a State that would be willing to challenge the
      constitutionality and legitimacy of the direct income tax and the IRS. All
      of this--and more--is attainable with a constitutionalist State government
      committed to protecting the liberties of its citizens.

      I repeat: freedom in America has only one hope: the resurrection of State
      independence and sovereignty. In the US Constitution, our Founding Fathers
      sagaciously reserved to State governments their independence and
      sovereignty, knowing that they had the awesome responsibility of being the
      last (and greatest) vanguard of liberty for the American people. They never
      intended or imagined that the states would ever become a doormat for the
      central government (which is what most of them have become).

      In this regard, the states that are proposing State sovereignty resolutions
      should immediately band together to overturn the 17th Amendment, because
      this amendment strips the states of their constitutional powers by turning
      US senators into Washington insiders, who are more beholden to Washington
      interests than the interests and well-being of the states that they are
      supposed to represent.

      If the 71% of voters who are angry with the federal government would channel
      their energies into electing constitutionalist governors and State
      legislators, their anger might actually produce real and lasting change. As
      it is, efforts to "reform" Washington, D.C., are like trying to teach a hog
      to take a bath. Instead, let the hog wallow in the mud, but make sure the
      mudhole stays small; don't let it spread to your back yard. And keeping that
      Washington mudhole small is the job of the states. And, in case you have not
      noticed, the mudhole has already grown to the point that it's not just in
      your back yard; it's on your front porch and about to consume your whole

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      -------- Original Message --------
      Subject:Writ of quo warranto (was: Letter of Marque & Reprisal)
      Date:Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:17:22 -0600
      From:Jon Roland <jon@...>

      The appropriate remedy in law for abuses and usurpations by executive officials is the writ of quo warranto. It is a procedure in which one files the writ with a court of competent jurisdiction, and serves it on the respondant, the official. He has three days to respond, and prove his authority, unless the court allows more time, up to 20 days, for cause. If he fails to prove his authority, or the court improperly rules he has authority, or the court fails to hold a hearing, then by law the official is found not to hold authority, and it is then up to militia to either remove him from office, or compel him to stop exercising some unauthorized power, depending on the relief sought in the writ.

      It is supposed to work just like a writ of habeas corpus, but is for authority in general, not just authority to hold a prisoner.

      The key, of course, is that if the official refuses to prove his authority, or the court refuses to rightly decide the question, militia have to be organized, trained, equipped, and in sufficient number. We can't do it with what we have now. We have to build up to it. It may take a few hundred thousand martyrs before we get there.

      Unfortunately, there is no such easy answer for judicial officers. They have to be impeached and removed, unless sufficient pressure can be brought to get them not to be assigned to any cases.

      There is also  no easy answer for legislative officials. We have to elect new ones. Yes, there is some vote fraud, but not so much that it can deliver an election to someone who loses by 2-1. We need massive support on election day, and don't deceive yourselves. Get involved in either of the two major parties during an election campaign and you will see that people really are, by and large, voting the way it is reported. Most people are not activists. They don't know what we know. Most just vote for the names they are made most familiar with. They are dissatisfied, but don't know how to connect their dissatisfaction to names on the ballot. We have our work cut out for us.

      It is worth keeping something important in mind: Our present legal system with its remedies were mostly developed in England during the civil wars of the 17th century and riots of the 18th. The key factor driving the reforms we inherited were periodic mob actions that burned courthouses and hung any judges the mob could catch. Without that, the courts settled into corruption in England, which led to the American Revolution, which reset the system in the U.S. for a few decades, before it declined in the mid-19th century under the corruptive influence of large corporations. What we have been experiencing since then is just an extension of that decline.

      The Establishment is now far better organized than every before in the past. It makes the Party of Orwell's 1984 seem like amateurs. They have thought of almost everything, and are regularly engaged in efforts to defeat ours. Never wonder whether they are watching us. They are in among us.

      But they are losing control, and that is both an opportunity and a danger, because we aren't gaining control or adequately preparing to manage the situation that will result when control fails. Could get messy.

      -- Jon
      Constitution Society 2900 W Anderson Ln C-200-322, Austin, TX 78757
      512/299-5001    www.constitution.org    jon.roland@...
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