Re: [GnosticThought] Re: Altlantian Science/ Science of the Adept
- Speaking of underground bases....
I know from personal experience Lake Ontario has an
underground base... and the Toronto Basketball team is
named "The Raptors".
A friend Jennifer or orbi1kenobe has a great site, she
sits there most of the time and films and photgraphs
these orbs going in and out of the lake.
check it out. I used to live by the lake.
--- Paul Joseph Rovelli <zephyros93@...> wrote:
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> Hi Mac,
> Well, it's about as wild a story as one could hope
> for. With the Pyramids at Giza pointing to the
> Pleiades, there's some speculative possibilities in
> a little of this. But I sure would be interested in
> more documentation and other source information.
> And I find as much interest in your testimony about
> the people you've met in Sedona. Have these people
> been interviewed 'on record' anywhere? Are they
> reachable through a website or an egroup? Have they
> collected themselves in any formal manner?
> mcmath61 wrote:Dear pj:
> It would be my pleasure to tell you more of what
> I've read on the
> subject but, by way of warning, most of the material
> I've read is
> inherently unverifiable and will thus appeal chiefly
> to those with an
> interest in sci-fi or conspiracy theories.
> [By way of a brief digression first, when I lived in
> Sedona, Arizona,
> a town of around 7,000 people, there was a book for
> sale documenting
> the abduction stories of over 1,700 local residents,
> i.e., around a
> quarter of the entire population. Additionally, many
> of the service
> personnel I relied on in the area (my barber, for
> example) were quite
> anxious to discuss the *eight* different kinds of
> aliens that they
> had seen.]
> I start by noting that the claim is made in more
> than one of the
> source books that "evolving" toward a humanoid
> appearance is common
> among even those civilizations that started off
> resembling other
> creatures more than humans. Hence, calling a
> civilization "reptoid,"
> for example, doesn't mean that they *presently*
> resemble reptiles
> more than humans. As I understand the materials, all
> of the
> extraterrestrial groups which are interested in
> developments on Earth
> are humanoid in general appearance.
> 1. The reptoid-humanoids from Orion: One of the most
> feared empires
> in this section of the galaxy is supposedly a
> civilization whose home planet surounds one of the
> stars in the belt
> of Orion. It is ruled by Queens, and males are
> subordinated to the females. Morning Sky's books
> discuss this race
> directly, and give references to other works which
> discuss this race
> as well. Books by Adamski and Williamson also
> discuss this race, as
> well as its (supposed) local representatives who
> inhabit the surface
> and subsurface areas of Saturn and head up the Solar
> government (the Saturnian Council). The Orion Empire
> claims "thousands" of planets as part of what is now
> a mercantile
> empire; other sources claim that as few as 51 solar
> systems actually
> contain planets which belong to this Empire.
> 2. The canine-humanoids from Sirius: They were
> expanding quite
> actively in our area, but they made a deal with the
> Orion Empire to
> avoid a war that made them somewhat subordinate to
> the Orion Empire.
> Robert Anton Wilson and a variety of writers that
> Wilson likes to
> quote in his books claim to have "psychic"
> connections to
> Sirius. "Cosmic Triger: Final Secret of the
> Illuminati" is as good a
> place to go as any for references on this group.
> 3. Humanoids very much like Earthlings
> (simian-humanoids?) supposedly
> inhabit several planetary systems around stars in
> what we call the
> Pleiades. Books on these Pleiadian civilizations
> have already been
> referenced by others on this list. These
> civilizations are
> supposedly "spiritual" and highly-advanced
> scientifically and
> technologically. Some books published by the Secret
> Network in Sedona, Arizona, claim to have fathomed
> the motivations of
> the Pleiadians, but I tend to feel cynical whenever
> I read how
> wonderful and moral any of these alien cultures are.
> Apparently, the
> Pleiadians and the Orionites are not on good terms.
> 4. Birdlike-humanoids (fitting our standard image of
> Angels) called
> the Elohim (a race which Sitchin claims originate on
> a planet in our
> own Solar System) are thought to be one of the
> oldest civilizations
> in the galaxy, and the source of much of the
> technology which has transformed many non-humanoid
> creatures into
> humanoid crosses which have become dominant on their
> home worlds. The
> Elohim are thought to be on good terms with the
> Pleiadians and on
> very bad terms with the Orionites; some books
> portray the
> relationship between these two species as one of
> prolonged war.
> 5. The Grays (everyone who's seen "E.T." knows what
> *they* look like)
> are thought to be a dying race subordinate to the
> Orionites which
> came to Earth in the hope of coming up with genetic
> information that
> would enable them to begin reproducing again. The
> Secret Information
> Network claims that they have been unsuccessful to
> date, but that
> they have treaties with the U.S. government which
> have resulted in
> the transfer of advanced military technologies to
> humans and the
> establishment of underground facilities (in places
> like Arizona, New
> Mexico, and Nevada) used by the Grays for
> experimental and other
> Such other materials as I have absorbed on this
> subject are not
> sufficient for me to describe any of the other races
> some people
> claim to have run into to my own satisfaction. The
> story runs,
> however, that the Star Trek universe, and much of
> what Roddenberry
> was doing on television even in shows like "Final
> Conflict," was
> directly modeled on the Reality of a Federation of
> which Earth is a
> (still relatively undeveloped) part. These stories
> purport to explain
> why none of these other advanced civilizations
> directly interfere in
> (Earth) human affairs: that is, it would piss off
> the Federation and
> draw an undesirable response.
> There, was that enough for now?
> Best regards,
> --- In GnosticThought@y..., Paul Joseph Rovelli
> > Hi Mac,
> > 93
> > mcmath61 wrote:
> > I don't think the Atleanteans were non-human, but
> I think that
> there is evidence in occult literature suggesting
> that they were in
> touch with several non-terrestrial civilizations,
> and had spaceships
> > capable of doing what UFOs appear to do and
> capable of traveling
> faster than light speed. One of the great books of
> civilization, at least 8,000 years old, had
> extensive materials about
> making UFO-like craft, so this information isn't
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--- mcmath61 <mcmath61@...> wrote:
> Dear Aleph:__________________________________________________
> Although I will leave others who are more positively
> towards the writings of Paul to comment on
> Galatians, I recommend
> the following Bibles:
> 1. Hebrew scriptures: The Old Testament in available
> in Hebrew, with
> the interlinear Masoretic translation, from the
> Jewish Publication
> Society in Philadelphia. (Although if you want to
> see why even the
> Masoretic translation is inadequate, see, for
> example, The Cipher of
> Genesis by Carlo Suares.)
> 2. Greek scriptures: The New Testament is available
> in Greek, with
> word-by-word translation into English (and
> rationales for every
> discrepancy between its translation of certain words
> and the King
> James translation), from the Watchtower Tract
> Society (yeah, the
> Jehovah's Witnesses).
> 3. Annotations: The best annotated Bible I have
> found is the
> Bullinger translation. It includes essays on Hebrew
> astrological symbolism in the Bible, extensive
> treatments of Hebrew
> and Greek prophesy (including materials which
> Christians often
> ignore), and a number of other subjects.
> Best regards,
> --- In GnosticThought@y..., Aleph <amthsh@y...>
> > Coraxo,
> > 93
> > I have a question or two for you. Perhaps others
> > comment as well?
> > --- theecorax <theecorax@y...> wrote:
> > >>
> > > Actually I see mainstreal Christianity as judaic
> > > cultural
> > > imperialism directed against the Greeks (Read
> > > Galatians and
> > > Paul's criticism of the pro-Law activity of
> > > Peter) ;
> > I am curious. Galatians, while is speaks to the
> > christian rejection of the law of moses, has a
> > element of faith. Faith in this particular branch
> > gnostic christianity was heavily depended upon the
> > foundation of faith eh? This is likewise true in
> > later incarnation? in the valentinian system?
> > The group he is speaking to in this book is the
> > ebonites sp? My understanding of their
> > is that they essentially placed the Jesus mythos
> > the context of traditional judaism, and thus still
> > ascribed to the law of moses.
> > My second question is this....all i have for a
> > is the 'Everyday' model. It sucks. Can I get
> > suggestions for some models that are 'truer' to
> > original wordings? I so much would rather own a
> > different types than have to continually read long
> > documents online. That drives me nuts as well as
> > blind!
> > 93's
> > Aleph
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