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  • Jane*
    Dear Cynthia, Absolutely.  Music and sleep, numbers 1 and 2 on my list of what energizes and sustains me. I would like to add an exclamation point to your
    Message 1 of 79 , Dec 8, 2009
      Dear Cynthia,

      Absolutely.  Music and sleep, numbers 1 and 2 on my list of what energizes and sustains me.

      I would like to add an exclamation point to your offering on dissing the body.  I don't know where people get their ideas.  That having been said, we are living in duality, so I suppose if some people want to see parts of themselves in a good-bad context and act out the "bad" mode of their duality natures by punishing their body, that is their bag, but it's not mine :-) and thank God/dess they are punishing themselves instead of someone else. 

      I adore hats.  Throughout history, hats have adorned the heads of people to carry a message to others, of their function as royalty or speciality of some sort -- priestly adornment, membership in an exclusive club (like a professional baseball team or the fans of that team).  No, hats are totally important. 

       ~`~~{@ Jane*

      "It is better to light a candle than curse the darkness." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

      From: Peacock Cynthia <CynthiaPeacock@...>
      To: GnosticThought@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Tue, December 8, 2009 10:06:24 AM
      Subject: Re: [GnosticThought] music and sleep

      It's hard to articulate, but I'd say music and what I call industry. 
      I think, for me, the making and the appreciation of music are integral to inner understanding.  I've just sat here for a considerable amount of time trying to think of how to explain it, but really can't.  Music simply helps me connect to something that makes me feel for the lack of better words GLAD and JOYOUS and CONNECTED.  I think that is the connection for me.  Music is a good conduit.  It is sensual, but at the same time transcendent. 
      I've always been intrigued by the our dual natures--spiritual and physical.  I never quite bought the puritanical idea of viewing everything that pleases the body as harmful to the spiritual.  It may sound paradoxical, but I find that performing tasks that maintain the physical like cooking are in some manner transcendent. 
      I think I really get the idea of the Shakers and the Amish.  Purposeful work clears the mind.  I think purposefulness is the key.  If someone told me to dig a hole and fill it up again, I'd probably find myself full of resentment and rage. 
      I also like to make hats, that kind of hats without any useful purpose whatsoever.  I have no idea why.  I just like hats--always have.  Hats make me HAPPY--absolutely no logic to it.  My hat making is absolutely NOT transcendent.  It is has nothing to do with gnosis.  But I liken it to desert.  Dessert provides little to no dietary value, but it is necessary (okay I think dessert is necessary!).  Our bodies and our corporeal selves are not meant to languish while our spirit searches for fulfillment.  They need a good dose of care, too.  And the fun thing about participating in what I call "unexamined endeavors" is that it makes the body happy.  It's like giving a child a noneducational fun toy.  We need that.  Not judging here, but I personally can't put my head around disciplines that punish the body or withhold nourishment from the body or withhold pleasure from the body in an attempt to become closer to the spiritual.  I think you need
      to find wholesome ways to satiate the body so the body doesn't start to play tricks on your mind and spirit. 
      I'd be interested in hearing from anybody who disagrees with that.  There are so many people who believe that denying the body enhances spirituality that I'm sure there is value to it.  I just haven't ever been able to figure it out. 
      I heard some kid use the phrase "harsh my mellow" and I thought it was rather silly at first, and then I started using it.  I don't do much I don't want to do.  On first blush, no one would notice that about me.  I work very hard at my job, and am a diligent wife and mother.  But, I don't associate with what I consider mean people.  I don't watch reality television and rarely listen to the news.  I will not humiliate another person or be a party to it.  If I see something happening that I think is wrong, I let it be known.  I feel absolutely no guilt over anything.  I don't feel regret.  I have no jealousy (long story, but this was another HUGE step for me).  As I went through my process, jealousy and resentment (two huge obstacles for me) disappeared. 
      I think one reason that mainstream psychology can't do much with combatting emotions like jealousy and resentment is it tries to get rid of them, rather than creating an environment within a person where those emotions cannot exist. 
      I can't forget SLEEP.  I love sleep and I think that is where my process gels, so to speak. There' s something magical going on there.  Again, I get to the point where I can't with any precision articulate what's going on. 
      MUSIC and SLEEP are the conduits.  All the rest is rhetoric. 


      Cynthia G. Peacock

      --- On Mon, 12/7/09, Todd Settimo <todd@bagendpress. com> wrote:

      From: Todd Settimo <todd@bagendpress. com>
      Subject: Re: [GnosticThought] New Members, an invitation
      To: GnosticThought@ yahoogroups. com
      Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 5:29 PM


      It's a pleasure to meet you, Cindy...and I enjoyed your 'ramble'.

      I could completely understand what you said about gossip. Of course, you
      used that as an example. I'm sure that same inner consistency has forced
      several changes in your behavior as it has in mine.

      I'm curious, do you have a regular sort of practice, such as meditation,
      etc. that has furthered your inner understanding? If so, could you tell
      us about it?

      Thanks for writing.


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      Peacock Cynthia wrote:
      > I'm one of the newbies.
      > I'm more in a season of listening right now, but I'll add my thoughts
      > for today...
      > My husband, two children and I live in a suburb of Atlanta, Georgia.
      > About 10 years ago or so, the majority of the white people moved out
      > and nonwhite people moved in. Folks are too polite to say what I just
      > said, but rather they say the neighborhood has "changed" and then give
      > a funny little look. Well, I have 3000 square feet with a swell lake
      > in my backyard and I'm working on the last three years of a 15-year
      > mortgage. I only see good change. I don't particularly miss my
      > neighbors who left our neighborhood and have yet to see what people
      > were so worried about.
      > There are many advantages of having a transcendent world view. I
      > don't have to overcome racial prejudices because racial prejudices are
      > not compatible with my worldview. It's not that I am a saint or
      > open-minded mind you, they simply make no sense.
      > So, at present my former neighbors are short-selling their white
      > flight homes and I'm comfortably living in mine. Living in the light
      > has countless practical consequences. There is no sacrifice, but only
      > reward.
      > Christmas is nice because we're off from work and we give each other
      > presents. I have no anxiety over that either.
      > Because my religion of origin was a protestant one, much of tradition
      > stems from the teachings of Jesus. I will say, however, that when I
      > was about 19 or 20, and read what Plato said about the shadows, I had
      > that "there you are!" sort of moment. I cobbled together an idea of
      > "real" things and "not real" things, "real" things being searching for
      > truth, carrying for those around me, and not hurting anyone and "not
      > real" things being things like credit reports, gossip, reality
      > television, etc. Further, I think every moment is important. When I
      > go to the grocery store, it's a celebration. When I go to the post
      > office, it's a celebration. Every moment is a unique point in time
      > and space and should be treasured.
      > Back to gossip for a moment: I used to love gossip. I rarely started
      > gossip, but I loved hearing juicy gossip. I cannot imagine that
      > person was me. Now, I can't stand to be near it. It's inconsistent
      > with whom I am. So, when I think I have a long way to go, I am
      > comforted to see how far I have come.
      > If I turn on the television or the radio, I hear how everything around
      > us is crumbling. The amount of free-floating anxiety is palpable.
      > People who considered themselves too sophisticated to put their faith
      > in Jesus have now put their faith in a political machine. So hungry
      > for a Messiah they conjecture about who will be the sovereign in 2012.
      > When you "own" your own personal truth, there is peace. When you
      > don't, the best you can hope for is momentary respite from suffering.
      > I love Happy Buddha and the Jesus who fed the multitude. And a friend
      > just gave me a lemon meringue pie. It is without a doubt a wonderful
      > pie.
      > So, for me, I'm always looking for my truth. People remark about how
      > happy I am. It's hard to hide such a thing. Those who know me well
      > know I'm always puzzled about the "big" questions. But, I accept the
      > duality. Of course, I believe Knowing is essential, but likewise
      > accept gladly the carnal human pleasures as an extraordinary ornament
      > of humanity.
      > Oh yes, back to Christmas, definitely. I gave tuna fish and peanut
      > butter this year. I went to one of the wholesale clubs and picked up
      > the items, and delivered them to the local churches who were
      > sponsoring food drives. We have a large church community in my town
      > and I appreciate all the good work they do. It's okay to go meditate
      > on the top of a mountain too, but I believe in action and feeding
      > people is very important.
      > I do wish people weren't so crabby during Christmas. But, I love to
      > watch that Christmas movie with the little boy and the father with the
      > funny lamp. And snow is always good. But, I don't find Christmas any
      > more magical than say going to the grocery store, which, as I said, is
      > fun.
      > For someone who didn't have much to say, I sure babbled a lot.
      > Cindy
      > Cynthia G. Peacock
      > --- On Mon, 12/7/09, rosiolady@aol. com <mailto:rosiolady% 40aol.com>
      > <rosiolady@aol. com <mailto:rosiolady% 40aol.com> > wrote:
      > From: rosiolady@aol. com <mailto:rosiolady% 40aol.com>
      > <rosiolady@aol. com <mailto:rosiolady% 40aol.com> >
      > Subject: [GnosticThought] New Members, an invitation
      > To: GnosticThought@ yahoogroups. com
      > <mailto:GnosticThou ght%40yahoogroup s.com>
      > Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 12:22 PM
      > As one of several moderators for this list, I've noticed we've had
      > several
      > new members join recently. At the same time, there's not much message
      > activity going on right now. People may be busy gearing up for various
      > holidays.
      > So, now there's a subject. What do you think of the holidays? Here in
      > the USA, they fall at the dismal, weather-wise, time of year and I really
      > like the decorations, lights that brighten things up. On a
      > spiritual/metaphori cal level, the "return of the light" is most
      > meaningful to me. I don't
      > enjoy the crowds of people seemingly going insane with shopping, but
      > that's
      > just the way our economy works. I mean, they can do what they please, of
      > course, it just makes the traffic more problematic and long lines at the
      > stores. And an upsurge of screaming, crying, tearing around small
      > children who
      > are not enjoying this part of the rite at all. So I'm a grumpy old
      > grandma...
      > I have a Christmas tree (originally a pagan tradition), a faux one
      > because
      > I don't like to "murder" a tree just to decorate my house, and it's
      > pretty. Under it I have a Father Christmas and the meditating Buddha,
      > a golden
      > (colored) apple, a fawn figure asleep in the snow and a figure of a
      > lion and
      > lamb sleeping together. How's that for eclectic :-) I am a gnostic first
      > of all and secondarily a pagan. I don't object to any of the traditions,
      > and I think they all have some wisdom, as long as their adherents don't
      > preach at me or insist I agree with everything they say.
      > I'd really enjoy hearing from you, anyone who has a question or an
      > opinion. Please just jump in if/when you feel like it.
      > Rosalie
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    • lordofeternalnight
      Hmm... the holidays. I value them mostly for the time I get to spend with those people close to me (friends, family, etc.) not so much for the food(though it
      Message 79 of 79 , Dec 29, 2009
        the holidays. I value them mostly for the time I get to spend with those people close to me (friends, family, etc.) not so much for the food(though it is nice.) or the presents. I must say that there are always sweet and heart-warming things to look forward to during these times, though personally I think we should celebrate unity all year long- not only when surrounded by a plethora of dishes and a tree atop a pile of presents.
        But that is just my outlook. Marvelous times are created and empowered by the meaning and significance we give them, their intrinsic value.

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