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  • James Takac
    MM Rozee And the funny part is that it¶ true mp p3nn ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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      MM Rozee

      And the funny part is that it� true

      mp
      p3nn

      On Dec 1, 2007 3:45 PM, Rozee cutrone <itsallrozee@...> wrote:

      > james cute story, i got a great visual on it!
      >
      > --- In GnosticThought@yahoogroups.com <GnosticThought%40yahoogroups.com>,
      > James Takac <p3nndrag0n@...>
      >
      > wrote:
      > >
      > > MM Rozee
      > >
      > > Reminds me of something I saw one day. Was taking a train to/from
      > the city.
      > > The door to the carrage opens at Indooroopilly station an in flies
      > a hornet.
      > > The door opens at Toowong station and out it goes. On my way back
      > the door
      > > opens at Toowong and in flies a hornet. Door opens at Indooroopilly
      > and it
      > > flies out. I mean, I hope it paid its fares LOL The things you see
      > in life ;)
      > >
      > > MP
      > > p3nn
      > >
      > > On Saturday 01 December 2007 01:09:03 Rozee cutrone wrote:
      > > > last night a big black and yellow dragonfly came through the
      > door.
      > > > I let it out, but it came back so i still have it. I've never seen
      > > > one like this before. Its divine!
      > > >
      > > > --- In GnosticThought@yahoogroups.com<GnosticThought%40yahoogroups.com>,
      > "Ann" <annokig@> wrote:
      > > > > Excellent Rozee... share share when you are ready!
      > > > > and don't swetthe small stuff.
      > > > >
      > > > > Ann
      > > > >
      > > > > _____
      > > > >
      > > > > From: GnosticThought@yahoogroups.com<GnosticThought%40yahoogroups.com>
      > > > > [mailto:GnosticThought@yahoogroups.com<GnosticThought%40yahoogroups.com>]
      > On Behalf Of Rozee
      > > > > cutrone
      > > > > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 2:33 AM
      > > > > To: GnosticThought@yahoogroups.com<GnosticThought%40yahoogroups.com>
      > > > > Subject: [GnosticThought] Re: Light and Dark
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > James, had a second look at your answer,. it does all amount
      > > > > to
      > > > > nothing, a huge, meaningful nothing! how incredible then,
      > > > > that what
      > > > > has become transparent is my own belief system.
      > > > > had a huge breakthrough with current art works. (painter)
      > > > >
      > > > > --- In GnosticThought@
      > > > > <mailto:GnosticThought%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com,
      > > > > James Takac <p3nndrag0n@>
      > > > >
      > > > > wrote:
      > > > > > MM Rozee
      > > > > >
      > > > > > LOL about the election
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Sounds like to me that you're basically re-evaluating
      > > > >
      > > > > things. Many
      > > > > become
      > > > >
      > > > > > uncomfortable when they reach this phase as it oft means
      > > > >
      > > > > many
      > > > > cherished
      > > > >
      > > > > > notions get thrown out. And most hate to loose something
      > > > >
      > > > > they
      > > > > cherish. Many
      > > > >
      > > > > > are just afraid of the uncertainty of what they may find
      > > > >
      > > > > as well.
      > > > > I'm at the
      > > > >
      > > > > > place where the destination no longer matters. My way of
      > > > >
      > > > > looking at
      > > > > it is who
      > > > >
      > > > > > cares where I'm going, I'll get there when I get there and
      > > > >
      > > > > enjoy
      > > > > the scenery
      > > > >
      > > > > > in the mean time ;) I'm no longer uncomfortable with these
      > > > >
      > > > > things
      > > > > as I worked
      > > > >
      > > > > > out what made me uncomfortable long ago and worked out it
      > > > >
      > > > > really
      > > > > amounted to
      > > > >
      > > > > > nothing
      > > > > >
      > > > > > MP
      > > > > > p3nn
      > > > > >
      > > > > > On Friday 30 November 2007 12:18:06 Rozee cutrone wrote:
      > > > > > > hey james, (was referring to the election, but lol.)
      > > > >
      > > > > yes, very
      > > > >
      > > > > > > uncomfortable lately. It might be that my
      > > > > > > attention is too focused on 'the appearance' and moved
      > > > >
      > > > > away from
      > > > > the
      > > > >
      > > > > > > bigger picture. actually, i stopped the world and got
      > > > >
      > > > > off for a
      > > > >
      > > > > > > while and am walking about, pretending it all means
      > > > >
      > > > > something,
      > > > > when
      > > > >
      > > > > > > it means absolutely nothing to me right now. I don't
      > > > >
      > > > > want to hurt
      > > > >
      > > > > > > peoples feelings by saying the classic, "hey, tell
      > > > >
      > > > > someone who
      > > > >
      > > > > > > cares". I'm getting no resistance though. Every basic
      > > > >
      > > > > need i
      > > > > attend
      > > > >
      > > > > > > to is given the green light. What do you make of it? am
      > > > >
      > > > > i in
      > > > > limbo or
      > > > >
      > > > > > > something?
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > --- In GnosticThought@
      > > > >
      > > > > <mailto:GnosticThought%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com,
      > > > > James Takac <p3nndrag0n@>
      > > > >
      > > > > > > wrote:
      > > > > > > > MM Rozee
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > Enjoying a 4 day weekend for a change ;) What have we
      > > > >
      > > > > won?
      > > > > Freedom
      > > > >
      > > > > > > from
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > fear ;)
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > My understanding is that lucidity in a dream is a
      > > > >
      > > > > choice, i.e.
      > > > > we
      > > > >
      > > > > > > can choose
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > to be lucid when we know how. Or we can choose to just
      > > > >
      > > > > go along
      > > > > for
      > > > >
      > > > > > > the ride.
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > Lately I've just gone along for the ride to see where
      > > > >
      > > > > it goes
      > > > >
      > > > > > > > If it seems uncomfortable to you, maybe need to ask
      > > > >
      > > > > yourself
      > > > > what
      > > > >
      > > > > > > it is that
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > feels uncomfortable and why? When you figure that out,
      > > > >
      > > > > the
      > > > > unease
      > > > >
      > > > > > > goes
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > MP
      > > > > > > > p3nn
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > On Friday 30 November 2007 11:50:12 Rozee cutrone
      > > > >
      > > > > wrote:
      > > > > > > > > Hi james, how are you! yey! we won! ( but what did
      > > > >
      > > > > we win..?)
      > > > >
      > > > > > > > > ..about the lucid dreaming, I also don't don't have
      > > > >
      > > > > any fear
      > > > > in my
      > > > >
      > > > > > > > > dreams anymore. I have had the ability to actively
      > > > >
      > > > > change or
      > > > >
      > > > > > > confront
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > darker symbols for years but I haven't though been
      > > > >
      > > > > regularly
      > > > >
      > > > > > > lucid or
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > remembering my dreams on a regular basis for months
      > > > >
      > > > > now, seem
      > > > > to
      > > > >
      > > > > > > be
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > going through a bit of a dark night of the soul.
      > > > >
      > > > > Life has
      > > > > gone a
      > > > >
      > > > > > > bit
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > muddy for me of late. any suggestions? I'm cruising
      > > > >
      > > > > along ok,
      > > > >
      > > > > > > but my
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > heart just isn't it..(life i mean) I'm on automatic
      > > > >
      > > > > pilot and
      > > > >
      > > > > > > thats
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > ok, as i know 'all that i have is yours my daughter'
      > > > >
      > > > > but gee,
      > > > > it's
      > > > >
      > > > > > > > > all looking very transparent, which is uncomfortable
      > > > >
      > > > > for me.
      > > > >
      > > > > > > > > --- In GnosticThought@
      > > > >
      > > > > <mailto:GnosticThought%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com,
      > > > > James Takac
      > > > > <p3nndrag0n@>
      > > > >
      > > > > > > > > wrote:
      > > > > > > > > > MM Rozee
      > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > What I've found is that I have the ability to
      > > > >
      > > > > change
      > > > > anything I
      > > > >
      > > > > > > > > don't like in
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > my dreams, e.g. I could turn a destroyer of
      > > > >
      > > > > universes into
      > > > > a bug
      > > > >
      > > > > > > > > and step on
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > it. So I no longer find anything to be wary of in
      > > > >
      > > > > my
      > > > > dreams ;)
      > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > MP
      > > > > > > > > > p3nn
      > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > On Thursday 29 November 2007 13:06:29 Rozee
      > > > >
      > > > > cutrone wrote:
      > > > > > > > > > > Hi james , makes a big difference thats for
      > > > >
      > > > > sure. if i'm
      > > > >
      > > > > > > lucid i'm
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > well aware that the darker side is another
      > > > >
      > > > > fascinating
      > > > > world
      > > > >
      > > > > > > to
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > explore, and i've rarely been afraid. once
      > > > >
      > > > > though, while
      > > > >
      > > > > > > lucid, i
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > came across a very twisted 'soul'? thinking it
      > > > >
      > > > > was a
      > > > >
      > > > > > > character in
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > my
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > dream, i approached and asked what who it was. I
      > > > >
      > > > > then got
      > > > > the
      > > > >
      > > > > > > > > feeling
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > that it wasn't part of my psyche!!!Not sure what
      > > > >
      > > > > it was
      > > > > but i
      > > > >
      > > > > > > just
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > knew i had to get out of the way!
      > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > -- In GnosticThought@
      > > > >
      > > > > <mailto:GnosticThought%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com,
      > > > > James Takac
      > > > >
      > > > > > > <p3nndrag0n@>
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
      > > > > > > > > > > > MM Patrick
      > > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > A good few of us are aware of the fact we're
      > > > >
      > > > > dreaming
      > > > > when
      > > > >
      > > > > > > we're
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > dreaming,
      > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > i.e. lucid dreamers
      > > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > MP
      > > > > > > > > > > > p3nn
      > > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday 29 November 2007 02:36:34
      > > > >
      > > > > patameejuly wrote:
      > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Last night I had a dream about a ghost
      > > > >
      > > > > coming into
      > > > > my
      > > > >
      > > > > > > room
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > and
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > pulling off my blanket while in my dream I
      > > > >
      > > > > was trying
      > > > > to
      > > > >
      > > > > > > > > sleep. I
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > wasn't aware I was dreaming, of course who
      > > > >
      > > > > is aware of
      > > > >
      > > > > > > > > themselves
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > dreaming, anyway I felt this ghost pulling
      > > > >
      > > > > off my
      > > > > blanket
      > > > >
      > > > > > > and
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > all
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > of
      > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > a sudden I woke up realizing that was just a
      > > > >
      > > > > dream. I
      > > > >
      > > > > > > wasn't
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > scared
      > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > or anything because I am not really afraid
      > > > >
      > > > > of ghosts.
      > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > - In GnosticThought@
      > > > >
      > > > > <mailto:GnosticThought%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com,
      > > > > "Ann" <annokig@>
      > > > >
      > > > > > > wrote:
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > One reason it might scare me, is that the
      > > > >
      > > > > old
      > > > > Christian
      > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archetypes are so deeply ingrained
      > > > >
      > > > > intellectually.
      > > > > I
      > > > >
      > > > > > > still
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > have a hard time saying I dont beleive in
      > > > >
      > > > > the
      > > > > Creator
      > > > >
      > > > > > > God or
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Big Boogeyman or the Catholic Church
      > > > >
      > > > > ... but
      > > > > in my
      > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > heart I know what I know.
      > > > > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hugs
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ann
      > > > > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____
      > > > > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: GnosticThought@
      > > > >
      > > > > <mailto:GnosticThought%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
      > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > [mailto:GnosticThought@
      > > > >
      > > > > <mailto:GnosticThought%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com]
      > > > > On Behalf
      > > > > Of Ken
      > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 6:51 AM
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: GnosticThought@
      > > > >
      > > > > <mailto:GnosticThought%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
      > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [GnosticThought] Re: Light
      > > > >
      > > > > and Dark
      > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Brenda <brenda@geekcom.
      > > > >
      > > > > <mailto:brenda% <brenda%25>
      > > > >
      > > > > > > 40geekcom.com>
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > com> wrote:
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one night i had a lucid dream
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where i saw this transparent glowing
      > > > >
      > > > > red
      > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > entity, that at first i thought "the
      > > > >
      > > > > devil"
      > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > having been raised Christian, but on
      > > > >
      > > > > closer
      > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > look at the face, it was a silent
      > > > >
      > > > > bliss,
      > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a quietness that refused to answer
      > > > >
      > > > > questions,
      > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nothing to say, nothing to teach, just
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there and smiling, I could go all the
      > > > >
      > > > > way
      > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > around and the entity never moved or
      > > > >
      > > > > changed
      > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > expression, like a giant glowing sour
      > > > >
      > > > > patch
      > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kid or something.
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G n o s t i c T o m
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.geocitie
      > > > > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://www.geocitie
      > > > >
      > > > > <http://www.geocities.com/gnostictom/> s.com/gnostictom/>
      > > > > s.com/gnostictom/
      > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom,
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One night when I was in my 20's a
      > > > >
      > > > > glowing
      > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > > golden being started to
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > > appear before my eyes. It scared me so
      > > > >
      > > > > bad and
      > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it disappeared. LOL.
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brenda
      > > > > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everyone,
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder why these things tend to scare
      > > > >
      > > > > us?
      > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it just the old fear of the dark/fear
      > > > >
      > > > > of the
      > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > unknown? Something left over from the
      > > > >
      > > > > millions of
      > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > years when we were small creachers
      > > > >
      > > > > clinging to
      > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > tree limbs through the night when anything
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > appearing out of the dark might eat us? Or
      > > > >
      > > > > is
      > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > there some real danger that can jump out
      > > > >
      > > > > at us
      > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > from 12d?
      > > > > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ken
      > > > > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have
      > > > >
      > > > > been
      > > > > removed]
      > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > --
      > > > > > > > > > > > The only tyrant I accept in the world is the
      > > > >
      > > > > still small
      > > > >
      > > > > > > voice
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > within me
      > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > Mhatma Gandhi
      > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > --
      > > > > > > > > > All the races and tribes in the world are like the
      > > > >
      > > > > different
      > > > >
      > > > > > > > > colored flowers
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > of one meadow. All are beautiful. As children of
      > > > >
      > > > > the Creator
      > > > >
      > > > > > > they
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > must all be
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > respected."
      > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > Anon
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > --
      > > > > > > > Subhuti, what do you think? Is the Tathagata to be
      > > > >
      > > > > recognized by
      > > > >
      > > > > > > some material
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > characteristic? No, World-honored One; the Tathagata
      > > > >
      > > > > cannot be
      > > > >
      > > > > > > recognized
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > by any material characteristic. Wherefore? Because the
      > > > >
      > > > > Tathagata
      > > > >
      > > > > > > has said
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > that material characteristics are not, in fact,
      > > > >
      > > > > material
      > > > >
      > > > > > > characteristics.
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > Buddha said: Subhuti, wheresoever are material
      > > > >
      > > > > characteristics
      > > > >
      > > > > > > there is
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > delusion; but whoso perceives that all characteristics
      > > > >
      > > > > are in
      > > > > fact
      > > > >
      > > > > > > > no-characteristics, perceives the Tathagata.
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > Dharmapada
      > > > > > > > Section V. Understanding the Ultimate Principle of
      > > > >
      > > > > Reality
      > > > >
      > > > > > --
      > > > > > Behold the One in all things. It is the second that leads
      > > > > > you astray.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Kabir
      > > > >
      > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > --
      > > Behold the One in all things. It is the second that leads
      > > you astray.
      > >
      > > Kabir
      > >
      >
      >
      >


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    • ann graves
      I have a description of this in The Lost Goddess by Freke and Gandy.. Give me a bit to respond more completely, I ll need to review it... See I haven t been
      Message 270 of 270 , Apr 24 10:48 AM
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        I have a description of this in The Lost Goddess by Freke
        and Gandy.. Give me a bit to respond more completely, I'll
        need to review it...
        See I haven't been posting but I have been studying.

        Hugs,
        Ann

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        From: GnosticThought@yahoogroups.com
        [mailto:GnosticThought@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve
        Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 12:51 PM
        To: GnosticThought@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [GnosticThought] Re: Light and Dark



        --- In GnosticThought@
        <mailto:GnosticThought%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com,
        Tom Ragland <gnostictom@...>
        wrote:
        >
        >
        > --- rosiolady@... wrote:
        >
        > >
        > > In a message dated 2/15/2008 11:57:21 P.M. Pacific
        > > Standard Time,
        > > itsallrozee@... writes:
        > >
        > > What do you mean by the origin of giving 7
        > > significance is heavenly?
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > > I think both you and Bob know more about this than I
        > > do, but have you ever
        > > heard of the 7 heavens? Would mean dimensions, I
        > > suppose. Does someone know
        > > more about the 7 heavens that are a recurring theme
        > > in many religions?
        > >
        > > Rosalie
        > >
        > >
        > >
        >
        > when I first read
        > Discourse on the Eighth and Ninth
        > I thought, 8th and 9th what?
        >
        > it was considered that the 7 planets
        > had their influence and that everything
        > under their control had to succomb to
        > their imposed fate. they took turns
        > during each week, sun, moon, mars, mercury,
        > jupiter, venus, saturn. so you could be
        > free of their control if you found yourself
        > awoken on a day that didn't belong to one of
        > them, a day that was not one of the seven
        > days of the week.
        >
        > to push through to the Ogdoad, the 8th,
        > was the dream of the early Gnostics,
        > the realm of Christ beyond the realm of
        > the archons of the seven heavens.
        >
        >
        > G n o s t i c . T o m
        > http://www.geocitie <http://www.geocities.com/gnostictom/>
        s.com/gnostictom/
        >
        > Hello. One thing I would like to add is that this
        astronomical
        symbolism refers to emanational levels of consciousness.
        -Steve
        >






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