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  • multiracialbookclub
    Excerpts from the book Who is Black?: One Nation s Defiition -- by F. James Davis **About the United Stated Census Bureau (USCB):** The Census Bureau counts
    Message 1 of 4 , Aug 13, 2005
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      Excerpts from the book "Who is Black?:
      One Nation's Defiition -- by F. James Davis

      **About the United Stated Census Bureau (USCB):**

      "The Census Bureau counts what the nation wants counted.
      The definition of black used by the Census Bureau
      has been the nation's cultural and legal definition:
      all persons with any known black ancestry.
      Other nations define and count blacks differently..."

      In 1920 the mulatto category was dropped, and
      black was defined to mean any person with any
      black ancestry, as it has been ever since.
      No other ethnic population in the nation, including those
      with visibility non-Caucasoid features, is defined
      and counted according to a one-drop rule.

      "For example, persons whose ancestry is one-fourth or less
      American Indian are not generally defined as Indian...
      The United States certainly does not apply a
      one-drop rule to its white ethnic populations either...
      Ethnicity has often been confused with
      racial biology, and not just in Nazi Germany".

      **About the One-Drop Rule (ODR)**

      "In the South it became known as the "one-drop rule," meaning
      that a single drop of "black blood" makes a person a black.
      It is also known as the "one black ancestor rule," some courts
      have called it the "traceable amount rule," and anthropologists
      call it the "hypo-descent rule," meaning that racially mixed
      persons are assigned the status of the subordinate group".

      "It is often suggested that the key reason for this is that
      the physical differences between African blacks and whites,
      and therefore are less threatening to whites.
      However, keep in mind that the one-drop rule and anxiety
      about passing originated during slavery and later received
      powerful reinforcement under the Jim Crow system".

      **The double-standard on use of the term "passing":**

      "The concept of passing applies only to [so-called] "blacks" –
      consistent with nation's unique definition of the group"

      "It is interesting that, in The Passing of the Great Race (1916),
      Madison Grant maintained that the one-drop rule should be
      applied not only to blacks but also to all the other ethnic groups
      he considered biologically inferior "races," such as Hindus,
      Asians in general, Jews, Italians, and other
      Southern and Eastern European peoples".

      To be consistent, shouldn't you say that someone
      who is one-eighth white is passing as black?""

      "It should now be apparent that the definition of a black person
      as one with any trace at all of black African ancestry is
      inextricably woven into the history of the United States.
      It incorporates beliefs once used to justify slavery and later used
      to buttress the `caste-like' Jim Crow system of segregation".

      http://www.frenchcreoles.com/CreoleCulture/blackwhiteorwhat/blackwhite
      orwhat.htm

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      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/196
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    • multiracialbookclub
      The USA s unique definition of who and how to label (someone) as black Excerpts from the book Who is Black?: One Nation s Defiition by F. James
      Message 2 of 4 , Oct 21, 2006
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        The USA's "unique" definition of 'who'
        and  'how' to label (someone) as "black"


        Excerpts from the book "Who is Black?:
        One Nation's Defiition"
        by F. James Davis



        **About the United Stated Census Bureau (USCB):**

        "The Census Bureau counts what the nation wants counted.

        The definition of 'Black' used by the Census Bureau
        has been the nation's cultural and legal definition:
        all persons with any known 'Black' ancestry.

        Other nations define and count "blacks" differently..."

        In 1920 the Mulatto category was dropped, and
        'Black' was defined to mean "any person with any
        'Black' ancestry", as it has been ever since.

        No other Ethnic population in the nation,
        including those with visibility non-Caucasoid
        features, is defined and counted
        according to 'a One-Drop Rule'
        .


        "For example, persons whose ancestry
        is one-fourth or less American Indian
        are not generally defined as Indian...

        The United States certainly does
        not apply 'a One-Drop Rule to its
        'White' ethnic populations either...

        Ethnicity has often been confused with Racial
        "biology" 
        ---- and not just in Nazi Germany".

        **About the One-Drop Rule (ODR)**

        "In the South it became known as the "one-drop rule," meaning
        that a single drop of "black blood" makes a person a 'Black'.

        It is also known as the "One Black Ancestor Rule," some courts
        have called it the "traceable amount rule," and anthropologists
        call it the "Hypo-Descent rule," meaning that Racially-Mixed
        persons are assigned "the status of the subordinate group".

        "It is often suggested that the key reason for
        this is that the physical differences between
        African 'Blacks' and 'Whites', and therefore
        are less "threatening" to 'Whites'.

        However, keep in mind that 'the One-Drop Rule' and anxiety
        about passing originated during slavery and later received
        powerful reinforcement under the Jim Crow system".


        **The double-standard on use of the term "passing":**

        "The concept of "passing" applies only
        to [so-called] "blacks" – consistent with
        nation's "unique definition" of the group
        "

        "It is interesting that, in The Passing of the Great
        Race (1916), Madison Grant maintained that
        'the One-Drop Rule' should be applied not
        only to "blacks" but also to all the other
        Ethnic groups he considered biologically
        inferior "races," such as Hindus, Asians in
        general, Jews, Italians, and other
        Southern and Eastern European peoples".

        To be consistent, shouldn't you say that someone
        who is one-eighth white is "passing" as 'Black'?""

        "It should now be apparent that the definition
        of a "black" person as "one with any trace at
        all of black African ancestry" is inextricably
        woven into the history of the United States.

        It incorporates beliefs once used to justify
        slavery and later used to buttress the
        `Caste-like' Jim Crow system of segregation".


        http://www.frenchcreoles.com/CreoleCulture/blackwhiteorwhat/blackwhiteorwhat.htm  

        Related Links:

        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/71
        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/196
        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/202
        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/204
        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/201
        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/208
        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/243
        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/293

      • j s
        Great book - I highly recommend it! multiracialbookclub wrote: The USA s unique definition of who and how to label
        Message 3 of 4 , Oct 22, 2006
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          Great book - I highly recommend it!

          multiracialbookclub <soaptalk@...> wrote:
          The USA's "unique" definition of 'who'
          and  'how' to label (someone) as "black"


          Excerpts from the book "Who is Black?:
          One Nation's Defiition"
          by F. James Davis



          **About the United Stated Census Bureau (USCB):**

          "The Census Bureau counts what the nation wants counted.

          The definition of 'Black' used by the Census Bureau
          has been the nation's cultural and legal definition:
          all persons with any known 'Black' ancestry.

          Other nations define and count "blacks" differently. .."

          In 1920 the Mulatto category was dropped, and
          'Black' was defined to mean "any person with any
          'Black' ancestry", as it has been ever since.

          No other Ethnic population in the nation,
          including those with visibility non-Caucasoid
          features, is defined and counted
          according to 'a One-Drop Rule'
          .


          "For example, persons whose ancestry
          is one-fourth or less American Indian
          are not generally defined as Indian...

          The United States certainly does
          not apply 'a One-Drop Rule to its
          'White' ethnic populations either...

          Ethnicity has often been confused with Racial
          "biology" 
          ---- and not just in Nazi Germany".

          **About the One-Drop Rule (ODR)**

          "In the South it became known as the "one-drop rule," meaning
          that a single drop of "black blood" makes a person a 'Black'.

          It is also known as the "One Black Ancestor Rule," some courts
          have called it the "traceable amount rule," and anthropologists
          call it the "Hypo-Descent rule," meaning that Racially-Mixed
          persons are assigned "the status of the subordinate group".

          "It is often suggested that the key reason for
          this is that the physical differences between
          African 'Blacks' and 'Whites', and therefore
          are less "threatening" to 'Whites'.

          However, keep in mind that 'the One-Drop Rule' and anxiety
          about passing originated during slavery and later received
          powerful reinforcement under the Jim Crow system".


          **The double-standard on use of the term "passing":**

          "The concept of "passing" applies only
          to [so-called] "blacks" – consistent with
          nation's "unique definition" of the group
          "

          "It is interesting that, in The Passing of the Great
          Race (1916), Madison Grant maintained that
          'the One-Drop Rule' should be applied not
          only to "blacks" but also to all the other
          Ethnic groups he considered biologically
          inferior "races," such as Hindus, Asians in
          general, Jews, Italians, and other
          Southern and Eastern European peoples".

          To be consistent, shouldn't you say that someone
          who is one-eighth white is "passing" as 'Black'?""

          "It should now be apparent that the definition
          of a "black" person as "one with any trace at
          all of black African ancestry" is inextricably
          woven into the history of the United States.

          It incorporates beliefs once used to justify
          slavery and later used to buttress the
          `Caste-like' Jim Crow system of segregation" .


          http://www.frenchcr eoles.com/ CreoleCulture/ blackwhiteorwhat /blackwhiteorwhat.htm  

          Related Links:

          http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/Generation -Mixed/message/ 71
          http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/Generation -Mixed/message/ 196
          http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/Generation -Mixed/message/ 202
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        • j s
          I love this quote - I will use it for my Italian and Jewish acquaintances that are so proud of being white. It is interesting that, in The Passing of the
          Message 4 of 4 , Oct 22, 2006
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            I love this quote - I will use it for my Italian and
            Jewish acquaintances that are so proud of being white.

            "It is interesting that, in The Passing of the Great
            Race (1916), Madison Grant maintained that
            'the One-Drop Rule' should be applied not
            only to "blacks" but also to all the other
            Ethnic groups he considered biologically
            inferior "races," such as Hindus, Asians in
            general, Jews, Italians, and other
            Southern and Eastern European peoples
            ".


            multiracialbookclub <soaptalk@...> wrote:
            The USA's "unique" definition of 'who'
            and  'how' to label (someone) as "black"


            Excerpts from the book "Who is Black?:
            One Nation's Defiition"
            by F. James Davis



            **About the United Stated Census Bureau (USCB):**

            "The Census Bureau counts what the nation wants counted.

            The definition of 'Black' used by the Census Bureau
            has been the nation's cultural and legal definition:
            all persons with any known 'Black' ancestry.

            Other nations define and count "blacks" differently. .."

            In 1920 the Mulatto category was dropped, and
            'Black' was defined to mean "any person with any
            'Black' ancestry", as it has been ever since.

            No other Ethnic population in the nation,
            including those with visibility non-Caucasoid
            features, is defined and counted
            according to 'a One-Drop Rule'
            .


            "For example, persons whose ancestry
            is one-fourth or less American Indian
            are not generally defined as Indian...

            The United States certainly does
            not apply 'a One-Drop Rule to its
            'White' ethnic populations either...

            Ethnicity has often been confused with Racial
            "biology" 
            ---- and not just in Nazi Germany".

            **About the One-Drop Rule (ODR)**

            "In the South it became known as the "one-drop rule," meaning
            that a single drop of "black blood" makes a person a 'Black'.

            It is also known as the "One Black Ancestor Rule," some courts
            have called it the "traceable amount rule," and anthropologists
            call it the "Hypo-Descent rule," meaning that Racially-Mixed
            persons are assigned "the status of the subordinate group".

            "It is often suggested that the key reason for
            this is that the physical differences between
            African 'Blacks' and 'Whites', and therefore
            are less "threatening" to 'Whites'.

            However, keep in mind that 'the One-Drop Rule' and anxiety
            about passing originated during slavery and later received
            powerful reinforcement under the Jim Crow system".


            **The double-standard on use of the term "passing":**

            "The concept of "passing" applies only
            to [so-called] "blacks" – consistent with
            nation's "unique definition" of the group
            "

            "It is interesting that, in The Passing of the Great
            Race (1916), Madison Grant maintained that
            'the One-Drop Rule' should be applied not
            only to "blacks" but also to all the other
            Ethnic groups he considered biologically
            inferior "races," such as Hindus, Asians in
            general, Jews, Italians, and other
            Southern and Eastern European peoples".

            To be consistent, shouldn't you say that someone
            who is one-eighth white is "passing" as 'Black'?""

            "It should now be apparent that the definition
            of a "black" person as "one with any trace at
            all of black African ancestry" is inextricably
            woven into the history of the United States.

            It incorporates beliefs once used to justify
            slavery and later used to buttress the
            `Caste-like' Jim Crow system of segregation" .


            http://www.frenchcr eoles.com/ CreoleCulture/ blackwhiteorwhat /blackwhiteorwhat.htm  

            Related Links:

            http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/Generation -Mixed/message/ 71
            http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/Generation -Mixed/message/ 196
            http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/Generation -Mixed/message/ 202
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            http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/Generation -Mixed/message/ 201
            http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/Generation -Mixed/message/ 208
            http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/Generation -Mixed/message/ 243
            http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/Generation -Mixed/message/ 293


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