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  • Rommel Santos
    nacaomestica: If you laid out the facts right, I must say that the racist policy is definitely unjust and contrary to human dignity. You are probably right
    Message 1 of 29 , Jun 7, 2007
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      nacaomestica:

      If you laid out the facts right, I must
      say that the racist policy is definitely
      unjust and contrary to human dignity.

      You are probably right questioning the
      current leftist government of Brazil.

      How sad that a country that presents
      itself as a model of racial tolerance takes
      on a path contrary to its good reputation.

      PS:

      I take it you're Brazilian.
      Well, I've been to a Brazilian restaurant
      (which served churasco (did I spell it right?).
      Boy, was it deeeeeeeee-licious! Exotic too.

      Yours,
      Rommel Santos



      nacaomestica@... wrote:

      The Brazilian culture and people traditionally
      recognize Mixed identities, as of the 'Mulatto', the
      'Cafuzo' (Native+Black) and the 'Caboclo' (Native+White) .

      However, the current leftist Brazilian government
      (of the 'Party of the Workers' - 'Partido dos
      Trabalhadores' , PT) is undertaking a anti-Mestizo politics.

      This politics is specily lead by racial movements
      linked to the party of the president Lula who is
      introducing the 'One Drop Rule' in the country.

      The 'Movimento Pardo-Mestiço Brasileiro'
      ('Brazilian Mestizo Movement'), or
      'Nação Mestiça' ('Mestizo Nation'),
      was organized to defend the right of the
      'Mestizos' to be identified as 'Mestizos'
      (in Portuguese the word for
      'Multiracial/ Ethnic' is 'Mestiço').

      The 'Mestizos' has been excluded of
      the governmental politics and Mestizo
      movement has been suffered persecutions.

      We thank the Multi-Ethnic organizations help
      us denounce this anti-'Mestizo' politics.
       





       
      EUA
      Mestiços dos EUA comemoram legalização do
      casamento inter-racial no país
      1 de junho de 2007
      A
      AMEA - Association of MultiEthnic Americans
      e outras organizações
      mestiças dos EUA estão preparando a Loving Decision Conference.
      A conferência internacional faz parte das comemorações do 40.º
      aniversário da Loving versus Virgínia (1967), a decisão da Suprema
      Corte dos EUA que legalizou o casamento inter-racial nos EUA.
      Informa a AMEA - Association of MultiEthnic Americans que o evento
      visar ser a primeira vez na história dos EUA que estarão reunidos
      casais "inter-raciais" , indivíduos "multi-raciais/é tnicos" e
      adotados "trans-raciais" , além de políticos, educadores/estudant es,
      celebridades, e organizações ativistas representativas de todas as
      comunidades para tratar sobre a mestiçagem nos EUA.
      O Movimento Pardo-Mestiço Brasileiro foi convidado.
      Loving Decision Conference 2007: The Next 40 Years of Multiracial
      Communities
      ocorrerá em Chicago, Illinois, de 21 a 24 de junho.
      Eventos comemorativos também ocorrerão em Nova Iorque, Portland,
      Berkeley, Los Angeles, Seattle e outras cidades. 

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      Textos assinados são de inteira responsabilidade de seus autores.
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    • docilechicken24
      This is what confuses me. The policy is unjust to Mixed race persons ability to identify otherwise from Afro-Brazillians, yet it sounds like the reasons for
      Message 2 of 29 , Jun 14, 2007
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        This is what confuses me.

        The policy is unjust to Mixed race persons ability to 'identify'
        otherwise from Afro-Brazillians, yet it sounds like the reasons
        for doing it are to give them better access to opportunity within
        Brazillian society that they don't really have right now.

        I know in some people in my school went to Rio de Janeiro
        (I am pretty sure that was the city at least)
        and studied affirmative action that is being
        experimented with in colleges cause the colleges
        don't have dark-skinned Mulatto or Blacks in them.

        If the Mulattoes and Blacks aren't united under one banner,
        how could they implement a program like that, that is
        giving them greater access to resources and opportunities.

        I don't think it is a clear cut issues either way.




        In Generation-Mixed@yahoogroups.com,
        Rommel Santos <rrcs_law@...> wrote:



        nacaomestica:

        If you laid out the facts right, I must
        say that the racist policy is definitely
        unjust and contrary to human dignity.

        You are probably right questioning the
        current leftist government of Brazil.

        How sad that a country that presents
        itself as a model of racial tolerance takes
        on a path contrary to its good reputation.

        PS:

        I take it you're Brazilian.
        Well, I've been to a Brazilian restaurant
        (which served churasco (did I spell it right?).
        Boy, was it deeeeeeeee-licious! Exotic too.

        Yours,
        Rommel Santos



        nacaomestica@... wrote:



        The Brazilian culture and people traditionally
        recognize Mixed identities, as of the 'Mulatto', the
        'Cafuzo' (Native+Black) and the 'Caboclo' (Native+White).

        However, the current leftist Brazilian government
        (of the 'Party of the Workers' - 'Partido dos
        Trabalhadores', PT) is undertaking a anti-Mestizo politics.

        This politics is specily lead by racial movements
        linked to the party of the president Lula who is
        introducing the 'One Drop Rule' in the country.

        The 'Movimento Pardo-Mestiço Brasileiro'
        ('Brazilian Mestizo Movement'), or
        'Nação Mestiça' ('Mestizo Nation'),
        was organized to defend the right of the
        'Mestizos' to be identified as 'Mestizos'
        (in Portuguese the word for
        'Multiracial/Ethnic' is 'Mestiço').

        The 'Mestizos' has been excluded of
        the governmental politics and Mestizo
        movement has been suffered persecutions.

        We thank the Multi-Ethnic organizations help
        us denounce this anti-'Mestizo' politics.


        nacaomestica <nacaomestica@...> wrote:



        From http://nacaomestica.org/noticia_070601_lovingdecision.htm

        EUA
        Mestiços dos EUA comemoram legalização do
        casamento inter-racial no país1 de junho de 2007
        A AMEA - Association of MultiEthnic Americans e outras organizações
        mestiças dos EUA estão preparando a Loving Decision Conference.
        A conferência internacional faz parte das comemorações do 40.º
        aniversário da Loving versus Virgínia (1967), a decisão da Suprema
        Corte dos EUA que legalizou o casamento inter-racial nos EUA.
        Informa a AMEA - Association of MultiEthnic Americans que o evento
        visar ser a primeira vez na história dos EUA que estarão reunidos
        casais "inter-raciais", indivíduos "multi-raciais/étnicos" e
        adotados "trans-raciais", além de políticos, educadores/estudantes,
        celebridades, e organizações ativistas representativas de todas as
        comunidades para tratar sobre a mestiçagem nos EUA.
        O Movimento Pardo-Mestiço Brasileiro foi convidado.
        A Loving Decision Conference 2007: The Next 40 Years of Multiracial
        Communities ocorrerá em Chicago, Illinois, de 21 a 24 de junho.
        Eventos comemorativos também ocorrerão em Nova Iorque, Portland,
        Berkeley, Los Angeles, Seattle e outras cidades.

        Página Inicial Nosso Fórum / Nuestro
        Foro / Our Forum Hemeroteca.

        As páginas de divulgação de artigos e materiais e textos
        jornalísticos, já publicadas por outras instituições, que
        abordam temas e fatos relacionados a assuntos étnicos e
        raciais e o conteúdo e as opiniões neles expostos são de
        responsabilidade de seus autores, não necessariamente expressando
        no todo ou em parte opiniões ou posicionamentos do Nação Mestiça.

        Textos assinados são de inteira responsabilidade de seus autores.
        DENUNCIE A POLÍTICA DO GOVERNO BRASILEIRO CONTRA MESTIÇOS
        DENUNCIE LA POLÍTICA DEL GOBIERNO BRASILEÑO CONTRA MESTIZOS
        DENOUNCE THE POLICY OF THE BRAZILIAN GOVERNMENT AGAINST MESTIZOS
        Movimento Pardo-Mestiço Brasileiro
        Todos os direitos reservados

        www.nacaomestica.org
      • eekmod
        When people call me for phone surveys, they always ask for my race and I always say, Mixed, which confounds them. There s no box to check! For some reason,
        Message 3 of 29 , Jun 15, 2007
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          When people call me for phone surveys, they always ask for my race and
          I always say, "Mixed," which confounds them. There's no box to check!
          For some reason, these surveyors don't even have an "other" box.
          I always pick according to my mood of the
          day: Asian or White. But it's annoying.

          People used to ask me if I was "Mixed."
          These days I must look less "Mixed," because now people
          think I am White and tired looking due to the Asian-ness
          of my eyes and the way my eyelids have always been.

          I am thinking of getting a T-shirt made that
          says, "I'm not tired, I am half-Asian."
        • Heather Stimmel
          I love the T-shirt idea- lololol=) People can be so ignorant! I know what you mean. I LOOK just white, so therefore people consider me just white. Now that I
          Message 4 of 29 , Jun 16, 2007
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            I love the T-shirt idea- lololol=)
            People can be so ignorant! I know what you mean.
            I LOOK just white, so therefore people consider me just white.
            Now that I know the full truth of my heritage, I make
            it a point to correct anyone who thinks otherwise.
            It can be tiring "educating" people...
            especially people who could really care less!
            It's something that needs to be done, though.
            Have a great day! Heather
          • kier22_2
            Do it! get your teeshirt made. It does it tiring (lol) after a while having to explain yourself. In Generation-Mixed@yahoogroups.com, eekmod
            Message 5 of 29 , Jun 18, 2007
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              Do it! get your teeshirt made.
              It does it tiring (lol) after a
              while having to explain yourself.




              In Generation-Mixed@yahoogroups.com,
              "eekmod" <eekmod@...> wrote:



              When people call me for phone surveys,
              they always ask for my race and I always
              say, "Mixed," which confounds them.
              There's no box to check!
              For some reason, these surveyors
              don't even have an "other" box.
              I always pick according to my mood of the
              day: Asian or White. But it's annoying.

              People used to ask me if I was "Mixed."
              These days I must look less "Mixed," because now people
              think I am White and tired looking due to the Asian-ness
              of my eyes and the way my eyelids have always been.

              I am thinking of getting a T-shirt made that
              says, "I'm not tired, I am half-Asian."
            • multiracialbookclub
              On Self-Definition When finding myself speaking with Mixed-Race people who (in reaction to intimidation by pressure from the `One-Droppist – of all
              Message 6 of 29 , Nov 19, 2011
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                On 'Self-Definition'


                When finding myself speaking with Mixed-Race people  
                who (in reaction to intimidation by pressure from the 
                `One-Droppist' – of all "racial" combinations – that 
                they have encountered – rather than out of some 
                personal choice) feel pressured to go through life 
                "passing as a `mono'-racial",  I try to share with them of 
                some of the following conclusions I have made about life.

                These conclusions are as follows:

                ***To have the 'courage to acknowledge' one's 
                Ethnicity or Family Lineage as being Mixed-Race 
                IS NOT the same as "separating oneself from" or
                "denying any part" of one's "Mono"-Racial lineages.

                ***To have the 'fortitude to proclaim' that one's 
                Mixed-Race heritage IS NOT about focusing on anything
                as petty or divisive as `visible' skin coloring, hair texture,
                facial features, etc. – NOR IS IT about any measurements
                of `quantum' or `percentage' of "racial" mixtures.

                ***To have the `strength to hold onto' one's Mixed-Race 
                heritage IS actually about acknowledging the struggle that 
                your ancestors went through (against their volition)
                and their survival -- against all odds -- made in
                order to pave the way for you to exist.

                ***A Mixed-Race person can be so via their Culture 
                (such as 
                Creoles and Latinos);via their Lineage 
                (such as people who are of a Multi-Generational 
                Multiracially-Mixed -– 
                MGM-Mixed – lineage) ; 
                via their Parentage (such as people who are of 
                First-Generational Multiracially-Mixed -– FGM-Mixed – 
                parentage) – and via their Ethnicity (such as Arabs and 
                many of the members of the group that today is generally 
                referred to as
                'African-American ') ------- and that all 
                of these Mixed-Race types can easily describe the 
                `unique social, cultural, racial blending' of individuals 
                and events `whose presence tells of the struggle 
                and championing of proud and strong people'.


                ***Every single Mixed-Race person  -- whether they 
                are Mixed-Race via their Culture; Lineage; Parentage 
                or Ethnicity --- has just as much a right to acknowledge 
                the Multi-RACIAL lineages within their heritage
                – as 
                does any Mixed-Race person – no matter their appearance; 
                features; experiences; upbringing or choice of `identity'.

                *** Every single Mixed-Race person on earth has 
                the God-given right to choose their own individual 
                `identity' 
                with which they feel most comfortable -- 
                as, ones' personal acknowledgement, acceptance and 
                embracing of a matter is often a thousand times more 
                empowering than if the whole world also decided 
                to affirm what one already knows to be true.

                Just a thought. ;;)

                Have a great day. :)

                Related Links:

                http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/1402 
                http//groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/1400 

                                                                                            -- AllPeople G.i.f.t.s (c) 
              • Connie Ware-Berg
                I would like to share this e-mail with another group I am in if I may. But I would like to ask your permission first. Thank you, Connie
                Message 7 of 29 , Nov 20, 2011
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                  I would like to share this e-mail with another group I am in if I may. But I would like to ask your permission first. Thank you, Connie



                  From:
                  multiracialbookclub <soaptalk@...>
                  To: Generation-Mixed@yahoogroups.com
                  Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 2:04 AM
                  Subject: [Generation-Mixed] A note on 'Self-Definition'

                   
                  On 'Self-Definition'


                  When finding myself speaking with Mixed-Race people  
                  who (in reaction to intimidation by pressure from the 
                  `One-Droppist' – of all "racial" combinations – that 
                  they have encountered – rather than out of some 
                  personal choice) feel pressured to go through life 
                  "passing as a `mono'-racial",  I try to share with them of 
                  some of the following conclusions I have made about life.

                  These conclusions are as follows:

                  ***To have the 'courage to acknowledge' one's 
                  Ethnicity or Family Lineage as being Mixed-Race 
                  IS NOT the same as "separating oneself from" or
                  "denying any part" of one's "Mono"-Racial lineages.

                  ***To have the 'fortitude to proclaim' that one's 
                  Mixed-Race heritage IS NOT about focusing on anything
                  as petty or divisive as `visible' skin coloring, hair texture,
                  facial features, etc. – NOR IS IT about any measurements
                  of `quantum' or `percentage' of "racial" mixtures.

                  ***To have the `strength to hold onto' one's Mixed-Race 
                  heritage IS actually about acknowledging the struggle that 
                  your ancestors went through (against their volition)
                  and their survival -- against all odds -- made in
                  order to pave the way for you to exist.

                  ***A Mixed-Race person can be so via their Culture 
                  (such as 
                  Creoles and Latinos);via their Lineage 
                  (such as people who are of a Multi-Generational 
                  Multiracially-Mixed -– 
                  MGM-Mixed – lineage) ; 
                  via their Parentage (such as people who are of 
                  First-Generational Multiracially-Mixed -– FGM-Mixed – 
                  parentage) – and via their Ethnicity (such as Arabs and 
                  many of the members of the group that today is generally 
                  referred to as
                  'African-American ') ------- and that all 
                  of these Mixed-Race types can easily describe the 
                  `unique social, cultural, racial blending' of individuals 
                  and events `whose presence tells of the struggle 
                  and championing of proud and strong people'.


                  ***Every single Mixed-Race person  -- whether they 
                  are Mixed-Race via their Culture; Lineage; Parentage 
                  or Ethnicity --- has just as much a right to acknowledge 
                  the Multi-RACIAL lineages within their heritage
                  – as 
                  does any Mixed-Race person – no matter their appearance; 
                  features; experiences; upbringing or choice of `identity'.

                  *** Every single Mixed-Race person on earth has 
                  the God-given right to choose their own individual 
                  `identity' 
                  with which they feel most comfortable -- 
                  as, ones' personal acknowledgement, acceptance and 
                  embracing of a matter is often a thousand times more 
                  empowering than if the whole world also decided 
                  to affirm what one already knows to be true.

                  Just a thought. ;;)

                  Have a great day. :)

                  Related Links:

                  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/1402 
                  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/http//groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/1400 

                                                                                              -- AllPeople G.i.f.t.s (c) 


                • multiracialbookclub
                  Hi Connie, Thank you so much for you memo!! Please feel more than free to share this memo / posting with anyone that you would like (and I do feel honored by
                  Message 8 of 29 , Nov 20, 2011
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                    Hi Connie,

                    Thank you so much for you memo!!

                    Please feel more than free to share this memo / posting with anyone
                    that you would like (and 
                    I do feel honored by your wanting to share it). :)

                    [The one request I would like to add is that you also include a link to
                    the
                    'Generation-Mixed' webpage  (so that people can see that it is a
                    'copyrighted' posting ... as I have, more than once, seen my postings
                    re-posted all over the web with either no or the wrong 'authorship')

                    -- and also the
                    'Contact'  information to my email address (just
                    in case anyone has any questions in regards to the topic of the
                    posting
                    ) -- both of which are noted at the very end of the posting.
                    ]

                    Thanks again Connie -- you are great and we are all so
                    happy that you are a part of the Gen-Mixed Community !!!

                    Have a wonderful day -- and continue
                    to always 'stay true' to who you are!


                    -- APGifts (soaptalk@...)



                    --- In Generation-Mixed@yahoogroups.com,
                    Connie Ware-Berg <connie.wareberg@...> wrote:



                    I would like to share this e-mail with another group I am in if I may.
                    But I would like to ask your permission first.
                    Thank you, Connie



                    From:
                     multiracialbookclub <soaptalk@...>
                    To: Generation-Mixed@yahoogroups.com 
                    Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 2:04 AM
                    Subject: [Generation-Mixed] A note on 'Self-Definition'

                     
                    On 'Self-Definition'


                    When finding myself speaking with Mixed-Race people  
                    who (in reaction to intimidation by pressure from the 
                    `One-Droppist' of all "racial" combinations that 
                    they have encountered rather than out of some 
                    personal choice) feel pressured to go through life 
                    "passing as a `mono'-racial",  I try to share with them of 
                    some of the following conclusions I have made about life.

                    These conclusions are as follows:

                    ***To have the 'courage to acknowledge' one's 
                    Ethnicity or Family Lineage as being Mixed-Race 
                    IS NOT the same as "separating oneself from" or
                    "denying any part" of one's "Mono"-Racial lineages.

                    ***To have the 'fortitude to proclaim' that one's 
                    Mixed-Race heritage IS NOT about focusing on anything
                    as petty or divisive as `visible' skin coloring, hair texture,
                    facial features, etc. NOR IS IT about any measurements
                    of `quantum' or `percentage' of "racial" mixtures.

                    ***To have the `strength to hold onto' one's Mixed-Race 
                    heritage IS actually about acknowledging the struggle that 
                    your ancestors went through (against their volition)
                    and their survival -- against all odds -- made in
                    order to pave the way for you to exist.

                    ***A Mixed-Race person can be so via their Culture 
                    (such as 
                    Creoles and Latinos);via their Lineage 
                    (such as people who are of a Multi-Generational 
                    Multiracially-Mixed '
                    MGM-Mixed' lineage) ; 
                    via their Parentage (such as people who are of 
                    First-Generational Multiracially-Mixed 'FGM-Mixed' 
                    parentage) and via their Ethnicity (such as Arabs and 
                    many of the members of the group that today is generally 
                    referred to as 
                    'African-American ') ------- and that all 
                    of these Mixed-Race types can easily describe the 
                    `unique social, cultural, racial blending' of individuals 
                    and events `whose presence tells of the struggle 
                    and championing of proud and strong people'.


                    ***Every single Mixed-Race person  -- whether they 
                    are Mixed-Race via their Culture; Lineage; Parentage 
                    or Ethnicity --- has just as much a right to acknowledge 
                    the Multi-RACIAL lineages within their heritage
                    " as 
                    does any Mixed-Race person" no matter their appearance; 
                    features; experiences; upbringing or choice of `identity'.

                    *** Every single Mixed-Race person on earth has 
                    the God-given right to choose their own individual 
                    `identity' 
                    with which they feel most comfortable -- 
                    as, ones' personal acknowledgement, acceptance and 
                    embracing of a matter is often a thousand times more 
                    empowering than if the whole world also decided 
                    to affirm what one already knows to be true.

                    Just a thought. ;;)

                    Have a great day. :)

                    Related Links:
                    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/1402 
                    http//groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/1400 
                     

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