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  • wintyreeve@aol.com
    The first uses of film (experimental-Edison and polished-Birth of a Nation) are intensely racist. Black film making didn t make any significant commercial
    Message 1 of 53 , Aug 7, 2005
      The first uses of film (experimental-Edison and polished-Birth of a Nation) are intensely racist. 
      Black film making didn't make any significant commercial splash in America until Blaxploitation films
      I saw a documentary called "Baaadaaaasss Cinema" on IFC the other night.
      It was all about Blaxploitation films. What I thought was interesting is that Blaxploitation
      films were made by Blacks, for a Black viewing audience.
      The films were initially produced independantly of the major studios.
      So maybe there was more of a message to those films?
      Blacks could vent against perceived injustices, could create
      their own mythology/image where they held power and were feared,
      could have an "inside joke" against stereotypes against them??
      If you see Blacks in Blaxploitation films as pimps, prostitutes, drug dealers,
      rebels...I think that was more accessible to the audience at the time.
      Maybe it even tapped into their worst fears, or their anger?
      Maybe the films, itself were rebellion?
      The film also said that the end of Blaxploitation
      films was the end of Black-owned film companies, with Black
      actors/actresses having starring roles & being respected.
      Although that is disputable...look at what Black owned
      record companies (Def Jam, Death Row, Bad Boy) have done.
      It has come to the point where the message, if any, is lost in the false reality created.
      Good News, though, there is a new music channel called IMF (International Music Feed),
      You can see music videos from all over the world.
      Joy & Peace, Lynn
    • marte
      .......but there was another movie name the underworld. The guy at the end turned half vampire and half werwolf,which made him stronger. Brittany Link
      Message 53 of 53 , Aug 17, 2005
        .......but there was another movie name the underworld. The guy at the end turned half vampire and half werwolf,which made him stronger.

        Brittany Link <babydoll211987@...> wrote:
        they couldnt have vampires of color cause then we'd have sun protection and we'd be killing all day lol, Also for those who are thinking being mixed is 'the best of both worlds crap' I start to think about blade, he was half human half vampire, he had the negative and postive of both. Also another one would be to think about a hermapherdite , half male half female. do they have the best of both worlds?

        sudoangel2000 <sudoangel2000@...> wrote:
        Certainly a movie that sticks with you for that scene alone.

        Romero I would have to give credit to for incorporated people of
        color in his films.  After all, Zombies can be any shade of human

        Trust me you are not missing anything by not watching "Monster Balls"
        or "Training Day".  You're friend is right the scene in MB is akin to
        the rape scene from Mandigo. 

        Notice that Halle gets roles in higher budget movies now.  I think it
        shows in her demeaner that she was pressured or else her career would
        go nowhere. Sad.

        Denzel's role in training day made me want to see him get his a**
        beat, shot, something the role was that obnoxious.  Some will say
        that makes a good actor to cause that kind of reaction in a film. 
        Hey I see guys like that everyday in front of the liquor stores. Not
        so special after all.

        Have you noticed that there are not many vampires of color as well.
        Blacula was a joke (I'm a extreme vampire movie fan).  Seems to me
        vampires would not be particular in the person they bite.  Interview
        with the Vampire the people of color got sucked dry.
        --- In Generation-Mixed@yahoogroups.com, "multiracialbookclub"
        <soaptalk@h...> wrote:
        > Omigosh -- it is just too funny that you mentioned
        > that scene in "Night of the Dead" -- because
        > that was the exact scene that I instantly
        > thought of when I read the article ... lol
        > What was just as bad was that not only was he the only
        > person "of-color" inthe film -- but he was also the main
        > hero of the film who courageously saves the lives of
        > almost all the other surviving characters ... then ...
        > literally for not provocation or rational reason ...
        > he is simply shot dead on the spot (it almost seemed
        > like a pseudo-social-psychological political statement
        > being made to the masses by hollywood at the time).
        > Wow .. it is just so funny that you made mention
        > of the very movie scene that came to my mind also. :D
        > P.S.
        > Sesame Street was also the only place
        > I ever saw any MGMs or any other
        > mixed-raced people on TV for years.
        > The films 'Training Day' and 'Monster
        > Ball' are two which I have not seen.
        > Many people advised me to not see 'Monster Ball' because
        > they felt the so-called 'love scene' in it was extremely
        > offensive; near pornographic; and more akin to a 'rape
        > of a slave' scene out of some 1970's 'Mandingo' film.
        > Having never seen the either film -- I have simply decided
        > to heed their warning and continue to wonder why Hollywood
        > did not feel that Berry's performances in films such as
        > 'Losing Isaiah' (which although held a stereotypical
        > person-of-color-on-drugs plot, did not use exploitative
        > nude scenes) was not also considered to be Oscar-worthy.
        > --- In Generation-Mixed@yahoogroups.com,
        > "sudoangel2000" <sudoangel2000@y...> wrote:
        > Actually being an avid horror movie fan this guy
        > picks up on everything that I noticed in the movies.
        > Not just horror movies.
        > When I was little I watched TV in hopes of seeing other
        > like me MGMs,the closest I got was Sesame Street..lol
        > The movie that made it clear that people of color no
        > matter what their role in a film would be killed off at
        > some point was the original "Night of the Living Dead".
        > The black man that managed to survive gets shot
        > in the head by a redneck sheriff just when you
        > think he had made it through the mayhem.
        > These days it's a little better but not much.
        > I think it's the way Hollywood perpetuates the
        > stereotypes and has no qualms about doing so.
        > Example Denzel Washington wins the Oscar for
        > "Training Day" which I felt was the most stereotypical
        > role he could have played considering he had
        > films that where he was the "thugish" type.
        > Or Halle Berry winning the Oscar for "Monster Balls".
        > Previous to the film she refused to disrobe.
        > As soon as she does (Hollywood
        > pressure) she wins the Oscar. 
        > For what really?
        > That was one of the worst,
        > disjointed movies I've ever seen.
        > The plot was thin or rather maybe an
        > idea that never really clarified.
        > Oh don't get me started...lol
        > I'll leave it at this and agree
        > with that guy's observations.
        > --- In Generation-Mixed@yahoogroups.com,
        > "multiracialbookclub" <soaptalk@h...> wrote:
        > Speaking of 'the media', this link had a
        > kind of funny observation that someone
        > made ... so I thought I'd share it.
        > :D
        > http://www.feoamante.com/Movies/racial.html
        > In Generation-Mixed@yahoogroups.com,
        > j s <creolescience@y...> wrote:
        > I think in most media, unless they are mixed and aware
        > of the special circumstances it brings, they will
        > probably see it as a black and white issue without
        > middleground. I think the work probably reflects the
        > limitation of the creators and their experiences.
        > --- Lynn <wintyreeve@> wrote:
        > That's a good point...
        > How are mixed people portrayed in the media?
        > My soap opera, Guiding Light, actually has
        > an interracial couple married in the series.
        > They have a daughter but you see very little
        > of her, I think she was featured on the show only once ~
        > Really- there is no middle ground.
        > You see the extreme of the stereotypes, the people
        > who make these shows must create their own reality?
        > What do you think?
        > Lynn (GraceofWynn)
        > --- "creolescience" <creolescience@y...> wrote:
        > Ok, so how is Paul Saterfield mixed?
        > My big question.
        > See I remember him from General Hospital.
        > I mean a friend told me - yeah that's it.
        > Alright I worked nights back then
        > and there wasn't much on TV...
        > But seriously how is he mixed?
        > To me he was always the epitomy
        > of aryan "whiteness".

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