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  • Nec
    Dec 4, 2011
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      How come every time I mention that my kids are half black or my husband is black, the response is always negative ... Either a frown or eye roll or sadness or pity or whatever display of disapproval one can muster without actually saying the words?? God forbid I mention that I, too am biracial (1st generation) ... I have struggled my entire life trying to find a balance between my white skin and blue eyes and my (mostly) black upbringing ... It sickens me that we (as people) continue to judge and be judged based on our skin color. Did Dr. King not accomplish anything??? 

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      On Dec 3, 2011, at 8:57 PM, Connie Ware-Berg <connie.wareberg@...> wrote:

       

      I agree that there many ignorant people in the world. But I feel they are the ones that are missing out in life. But then again just food for thought? Am I ignorant because I do not know how to do electrical for example? I feel not. I feel it is because I might not be interested in electrical or I may have not been given the chance to learn. Connie



      From:
      rosanna_armendariz <rosanna_armendariz@...>
      To: Generation-Mixed@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 7:25 PM
      Subject: [Generation-Mixed] Re: There is no such thing as a "light-skinned Black"

       
      It's always going to be the same BS in this country. I still get people telling me that I can't be half Jamaican b/c I "look Hispanic." Seriously, I'm 38 yrs old and I'm over it. I know most people go by appearances and will label you based on your looks-- not your ancestry, culture, or what you tell them. In fact, they will argue with what you tell them if it doesn't "match" your looks, in their opinion. That's just ignorant people for you.

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      In Generation-Mixed@yahoogroups.com,
      "Semmaster" <semcontrol@...> wrote:

      I grew up on the east-side of Springfield, Ohio. We were about 15 to 20 Black
      families with at least one light, bright or nearly white skinned parent, in the
      midst of all Caucasian families. We caught hell from both sides. Blacks on the
      South and West ends of town referred to us as Uncle Toms or Yellow N*ggers and
      the East-End Caucasians...well you know... My mom and grandmother both looked
      White my father was dark skinned with natural wavy hair. I grew up knowing that
      I wasn't just Black. Through family pictures and stories, I knew we were a
      mixture of White, Black and American Indian. As I grew, joined the military and
      left home, people outside of Ohio began asking me what I am and I would always
      say Black with a touch of Red and White. In the seventies, I became very
      interested in learning more of who I really am and began my journey to find out.
      I started by questioning my parents and traveling to different counties around
      Ohio searching census records. In essence what I found out on my father's side
      is mother is listed as mulatto on several census and my grandfather (father's
      father) is listed as Ethiopian of his WWI military record. On my maternal side,
      the list goes all the way back to Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemings....

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      In Generation-Mixed@yahoogroups.com,
      Connie Ware-Berg <connie.wareberg@...> wrote:

      Any child is very special.
      And no one can tell any one any different!
      Blessings to you and yours,
      Connie

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      From: "breeann_76@..." <breeann_76@...>
      To: Generation-Mixed@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Friday, December 2, 2011 12:20 AM
      Subject: Re: [Generation-Mixed]
      Re: There is no such thing as a "light-skinned Black"

      My daughter is black and white. Im a mixture of irish scottish austrian and
      indian and lots more but i am very fair skinned with blue eyes. My daughter is
      absolutely lovely and none will ever question the african american in her genes
      as she has many of the physical attributes of her biological father. I will
      raise her as a normal person. Teach history of all races. Her skin might be a
      creamy caramel but she is first a human being. I will make sure she has no
      racial identity crisis as she will know exactly who she is. We are who we define
      ourselves to be...from the inside not the out.
      It is my opinion that the racial categorization in this country (USA) is
      preposterous.

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      From: "Connie Ware-Berg" <connie.wareberg@...>
      To: "Generation-Mixed@yahoogroups.com"
      <Generation-Mixed@yahoogroups.com>
      Subject: [Generation-Mixed]
      Re: There is no such thing as a "light-skinned Black"
      Date: Thu, Dec 1, 2011 11:35 pm

      First I would like to say Please look into your history!!!!! Depending on where
      a person was born and lived had a lot to do with the skin tone color of the
      person. Today there are very few people in the world now that is pure blood any
      thing. Most of us are all a mixture of two or more.
      Second I would like to say that I am Irish, German, Indian (Several Tribes) on
      mother and fathers side (family history only so far), and African American, and
      I am Very Proud of All of my heritage and ancesters!! They are all what helped
      me to be me.
      Third I would like to say when I was growing up (and I still am) :) I was raised
      to like or dis like a person for the person and not for their skin tone color. I
      will be that way until the day the Creator says my days here on earth are done
      and it is time to go with him.
      Fourth If any one is interested they can look on the net for Mary (Molly) Welsh
      (Walsh) Bannaker. Benjamin Bannaker was her grandson. And Mary Welsh was my 8th
      generation gr-gr-mother. I have what I say is a very colorful history of
      ancesters and
      I am proud of all of them.
      Fifth I have my fathers side of the family back into the early 1700's, mothers
      side back to the late 1600's and my fathers mother's side back to the late
      1700's if any one is interested you can contact me maybe we could be cousins who
      knows??
      Thank you for your time. Connie

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      From: Chibi <orriami@...>
      To: Generation-Mixed@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 7:16 PM
      Subject: [Generation-Mixed] Re: There is no such thing as a "light-skinned
      Black"

      It is a very funny thing I've always wondered really...the "white race"... is
      there really a way to define it? Does that just mean that as long as your skin
      is white, you are pure? My daughter's skin is white, is she pure, even though
      she is mixed?

      It baffles me. Most white people were already mixed anyway. European people did
      not all speak one language, hold one culture, or act in any
      particular way that was uniform. In fact, back in earlier times, people of the
      same or close skin color in Europe fought one another for land, for the mere
      fact that they hated or despised one's culture or viewpoints, for women, for
      EVERYTHING, much like other races did as well. These people were able to
      overcome their ways and mix among each other without as much complaint. A white
      American is a mixture of a lot of things usually. Most will cite at least two
      types of European lineage they have when they tell you in detail what they come
      from. My husband looks as white as you can come (lol), but most would be
      surprised to find that he is half Irish, and half Cherokee Indian.

      His biological father is all Cheerokee, or at least that is as much of him as we
      can identify. My husbands eyes are a stark blue, but his hair a a bit thicker on
      his head, and as far as body hair, he lacks a lot of it except for his legs. (no
      chest or back hair, most Indians did not have very much body hair.)But hes as
      pale as can be as well. No one notices that he is not fully white, which is
      horrendously ironic. Of course, I suppose his mixture is not as big of a deal as
      say, someone who was black and white. Most white people will just write him off
      as white too, and they'd think he was a part of that "pure race" with his bright
      blue eyes. If that is done today, imagine what mistakes other white people
      before might have made, or the secrets they might try to hide about their
      lineage...

      Me on the other hand, I am mostly African American, with a Korean Great
      grandmother, Cheerokee and black great grandfather, and from there most of my
      other family members are black, however we did also incoorperate some Hispanic,
      other Koreans, Chinese, and more American Indian relatives. I myself however am
      a mixture of races. Most people will tell me that I look like I'm something more
      than black, but my features are mostly black. I would, upon first glance, be
      written off as just black by most people, although a few times many people will
      tell me I look mixed (I can't quite figure out how though, lol). Fact is, even
      though I'm a mixture like my husband, and even though more people can tell it
      about me than my husband, I am "tainted" I suppose? Not that I too much care
      honestly about such a ridiculous thing, I try to embrace all of my cultures
      equally, just so happens I have been around more of my African American
      relatives than the others.

      It's sick and a waste of time really to focus on race so heavily. You'd think
      people would get over it already. Especially here in the south, where white
      people who want to be supremacists and egotists, and look down upon Hispanic and
      Black races mostly with disdain and disgust, ARE at some point, mixed. They have
      black people in their family somewhere...whether or not it was wanted, planned,
      or whatever they are there somewhere. And knowing that they probably do, even if
      it wasn't told to them, they shouldn't behave the way they do about it. It's as
      if they're in denial...maybe it would be different if they didn't claim they
      were pure raced...but to me that is denial. Our country still has a hell of a
      way to go when it comes to race...seems like other countries are so much more
      accepting, ironically, of it and we're the melting pot! I just hope for my
      daughter's sake there will be a major change in attitude about all of this.

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      In Generation-Mixed@yahoogroups.com,
      "multiracialbookclub" <soaptalk@...> wrote:

      It often comes as a surprise
      for people to discover that …
      `There is No Such Thing as a
      "Light Skinned Black" person'.

      The actual term of "Light Skinned Black"
      is nothing more that a racist oxymoron
      that was coined by racial supremacists
      --- in an effort to try to forcibly deny the
      many `Mixed-Race' people who were / are
      of a Multi-Generational Multiracially-Mixed
      (MGM-Mixed) Ancestral Lineage the right
      TO both embrace (and also receive public
      support in openly acknowledging) the
      physically visible (and obvious)
      FACT of their FULL-ancestry.

      The eugenicists and other racial-supremacists
      created a non-scientific, spurious and racist concept
      called the `One-Drop Rule' (ODR) in an effort to
      falsely label any Black bloodlines found in a
      Mixed-Race individual's ancestral lineage as being
      both an "inferior" and a "contaminated" "taint"
      that was so "filthy" and "vile" that even a mere
      `drop' of it had quite literally managed (and would
      eternally continue) to destroy the actual existence of
      all of the other blood-lineages found in their ancestry.

      [NOTE: More information on the racist,
      reeking, odious ODR is found below.]

      Again, the so-called "Light Skinned Black" people
      are simply `Multi-Generational Multiracially-Mixed'
      (MGM-Mixed) / `Mixed-Race' people who happened
      to have been from families that BOTH BECAME
      (AND CONTINUALLY-REMAINED) Mixed-Race
      THROUGHOUT their multiple generations.

      [PLEASE NOTE that THIS IS NOT stating or implying
      that having a LIGHT-Complexioned SKIN tone
      IS THE `ONLY' (OR even a `REQUIRED') PROOF
      of any person being OF MIXED-RACE LINEAGE.

      It's simply stating that the person's Light-complexioned
      skin coloring and tone is quite clearly an UNDENIABLE
      physical PROOF of the FACT that their family's Ancestral
      Lineage has been `CONTINUALLY' racially Admixed
      `THROUGHOUT' the GENERATIONS (from the very first
      occurrence of "racial" admixing up to their very present
      generation of such – ex. Griffe marries Metis, etc.).

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      THE KEY to actually being a `Multi-Generational
      Multiracially-Mixed' (MGM-Mixed) Mixed-Race
      individual IS ONE'S LINEAGE-CONTINUITY!!

      In order to be of the Mixed-Race 'type' that is
      known as `Multi-Generational Multiracially-Mixed'
      or `MGM-Mixed' --- one's ancestry MUST have
      BOTH BECOME & REMAINED (at least 25%)
      racially-admixed THROUGHOUT all of their
      family generations -- starting with the
      very first occurrence of admixture
      up unto their present generation!

      [Simply having 1 or 2 "ancient-ancestors"
      who are said to have been of some
      "other race" and that are allegedly
      found "somewhere-down-the-line"
      (ex. a great-grand whatever of another
      "race") -- DOES NOT -- make anyone
      MGM-Mixed^ (or else nearly everyone
      found on the planet could then (falsely)
      claim that they are MGM-Mixed ^).
      (^Multi-Generational Multiracially-Mixed)]

      Being `Multi-Generational Multiracially-Mixed'
      or 'MGM-Mixed' REQUIRES that a person's
      lineage has a "CONTINUITY-of-Admixture".

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      A NOTE ON ... The Racist
      `One-Drop' Rule (ODR):

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      The 'One-Drop' Rule (ODR) --- [which is the false
      teaching that 'any amount' (even one, tiny, minute
      `drop') of Black ancestral lineage would make any
      a person who is of a Mixed-Race lineage "full Black"]
      --- is quite simply nothing more than racism.

      The racist, reeking, odious ODR was created during
      the antebellum / chattel-slavery era of the continental
      U.S. by racial-supremacists in order to get people to
      believe the false racist myth that the so-called White
      "race" was "pure" … and to also falsely look upon
      the Black "racial" admixture (even the slightest
      amount – down to one mere `drop') that was found
      within a Mixed-Race person's ancestral lineage --
      as being a vile "taint" that was so very `filthy'
      and `contaminated' that it literally "destroyed"
      every single `drop' of non-Black blood that
      was found in the persons' ancestral lineage.

      To embrace the 'One-Drop Rule' … is the
      equivalent of BOTH embracing "racism"
      and also embracing the false and racist
      teaching that a Mixed-Race person's
      Black ancestral lineage is "tainted".

      My advice is that a non-Racist should *not*
      embrace the concept of the 'One-Drop Rule'
      -- as "Black blood" is *not* "tainted" --
      and should never be perceived or embraced
      as being so (not even in the name
      of so-called "pride" and "unity").

      The racist 'One Drop Rule' (ODR) is an offense to
      the pride of people who are of a full-Black lineage
      and to people who of a Mixed-Race lineage that
      includes a part-Black ancestry as well -- and this
      FACT is also why it is not a 'unifying' force at all
      -- but rather, it is a racist attack on their heritages.

      In addition, legally-speaking – any attempted
      forcible application of the racist 'One-Drop Rule'
      (ODR) -- against any individual or group -- was
      ruled as UN-constitutional (i.e. made `illegal')
      by the United States Supreme Court in 1967
      via the case of 'Loving vs. The State of Virginia'.

      [Through the 'Loving vs. Virginia' case, the U.S.
      Supreme Court, ruled against both all of the laws
      banning Interracial marriage -- and -- also ruled
      that any so-called law which forcibly applied the
      'One Drop Rule' -- was racist, discriminatory,
      illegal, unconstitutional, and non-enforcible.

      That decision (`The "Loving" Decision' or
      `The "Loving" Case) struck down the racist
      `VA Racial Integrity Act' (VRIA) and every
      `Anti-Miscegenation Law' (AML) found in the
      U.S. — AS WELL AS the racist, `One-Drop Rule'
      (ODR) on which both the VRIA & the AMLs were based!]

      So … essentially … there has been no legal
      application of the racist "ONE-DROP RULE'
      (ODR) found within the U.S. SINCE 1967.

      [i.e. The stench of the reeking, racist, odious ODR
      (which openly-mocked, cruelly-degraded and also
      falsely-accused one's black-bloodlines of being a
      `contaminated taint' that destroyed the existence
      of any and all of one's other / non-black bloodlines)
      -- along with it's biased application and racist
      terminologies -- has legally been `cleared from
      the air' of the U.S. since way back in 1967.]

      Thus, again, there is NO SUCH THING as
      a "Light-Skinned Black" person (as these
      individuals are quite simply `Multi-Generational
      Multiracially-Mixed (MGM-Mixed)' Mixed-Race
      people who are from families that have
      been CONTINUALLY racially-admixed
      THROUGHOUT their generations).

      For more information on this topic,
      please feel to contact me via email
      and / or to visit the websites below.

      — APGifts, Founder / Moderator
      (Generation-Mixed; MGM-Mixed
      and FGM-Mixed `Yahoo!Groups')
      © All Rights Reserved
      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/generation-mixed
      <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/generation-mixed>
      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mgm-mixed
      <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mgm-mixed>
      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fgm-mixed
      <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fgm-mixed>
      email: <mailto:soaptalk@...>
      soaptalk (at) hotmail (dot) com
      <mailto:soaptalk@...>

      Related links:

      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/1399
      <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/1399>
      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/1602
      <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/1602>
      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/1691
      <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/1691>
      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/1745
      <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/1745>
      <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/3331>
      <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/3331>
      <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/3331>
      <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/3331>
      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/3331
      <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/3331>

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