2569Re: Cherokee Nation votes to expel 'freedmen'
- Mar 4, 2007I guess many might have thought they were
those "long lost relatives" wanting
to cash in regardless of the truth.
I dont support their decision but I
guess I'm just trying to see all sides.
multiracialbookclub <soaptalk@...> wrote:Jeff wrote:
<<<"But I guess I can also see their point to an extent
if all of a sudden there were people who joined
with no indian identity, experience or interest
who wanted their entitled share.">>>
Thanks for commenting ... as your commentary is
always appreciated and is good food for thought.
The only problem here, however, is that
this analogy does not apply to the
situation faced by 'The Freedmen'.
The majority of The Freedmen have
been repeatedly proven to be the known
Mixed-Race (part-Black and part-Amerindian)
'descendents of the people who were originally
slaves to the tribe' -- but after the Antebellum
era of chattel slavery ended, the former slaves
became members of and absorbed into the
tribe and they and their Mixed-Race offspring
became referred to as being The Freedmen.
Most of them were of continually part-Cherokee
lineage; largely only knew of Cherokee ways; and
have, for generations, grown up in the Cherokee
heritage, language, customs, rituals, beliefs, etc.
As noted, most of these Freedmen are both of
a Mixed-Race (Native and Black) lineage and
certainly have more connection to and shared
heritage with their Cherokee brethren than many
of the people of 'White' phenotype who often show
up at tribal functions declaring themselves to be
'part-Cherokee' (often based on nothing more than
family legend, an old photograph, etc. -- with no
other proof) -- who are all but gleefully accepted by
and enrolled in the tribe with very little questioning
or investigation (and certainly no 'interrogation' ).
Many of these 'White'' "newly-discovered"
'accepted' Cherokee know nothing about
the customs, language, heritage, history, etc.
of the tribe and they have shared in little or
none of the tribal 'sufferings' -- and they simply
'recollected' their 'alleged' lineage when they
realized that casino money could be involved.
Meanwhile, most of the Freedmen (particularly those
in places like Oklahoma ) have 'full' proof of their
Mixed-Race lineage and most of them also have
largely never broken off their cultural tribal ties.
Yet, the Cherokee Nation -- out of greed and racism
-- has chosen to 'discriminate' against them by
(following the Dawes Commission footsteps) and,
thus, implementing the racist One-Drop Rule in
order to, yet again, deny the people who have
any known or acknowledged Black ancestry
the right to lay claim to their full-lineage.
It, in my humble opinion, is racism and greed
-- not tribal pride and protection -- that has
caused the Cherokee Nation to take this horrid
step against the very Freedmen who have been
an active, important and functioning part of
the Cherokee Nation for multiple generations.
The Freedmen are a far cry from being some
long-lost, unheard of relatives who've shown
up at someone's doorstep requesting a share
of someone's 'Super Lotto' ticket winnings.
They are a centuries-old, generations- spanning
full-part of the Cherokee Nation and -- were it
not for the Cherokee Nation's greed-based
and racism-embracing acceptance of the
racist One-Drop Rule, this matter -- of how
to respond to the Mixed-Race Freedman
(who, again, did not cut their tribal ties)
-- would never have even been an issue.
The action taken by the Cherokee Nation --
in expelling these Mixed-Race Freedmen --
is no less racist, in my humble opinion, than
that which was taken by White-Supremacist
Walter Plecker in Virginia in the 1920's.
Just a thought.
Thanks again for sharing and have a great day!
A good book and film on the subject
of groups like 'The Freedmen' is called
'Black Indians' -- by William Loren Katz
http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/Generation -Mixed/message/ 1386
http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/Generation -Mixed/message/ 1747
http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/Generation -Mixed/message/ 1400
http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/Generation -Mixed/message/ 2562
In Generation-Mixed@ yahoogroups. com,
j s <creolescience@ ...> wrote:
Wow. I suppose it was in response to the 2,000 that
just joined since it appears that there were only
800 members prior to the vote allowing them in.
I guess it's also another "invalidation"
of African-Americans historical
Native-American ties and lineage.
But I think besides racism
it also came down to greed.
But I guess I can also see their point to an extent
if all of a sudden there were people who joined
with no indian identity, experience or
interest who wanted their entitled share.
This is just one reason why I have no real interest
in seeking out tribal affiliation or membership
because I'm sure one would really have to jump
through hoops in what is basically a political process.
Probably before the proliferation of indian casinos
it wasn't as hard but now so much cash is involved.
So many of us are of indian descent
but will never have the "right" to
claim it in this society without recieving
snickers, disbelief or disdain since we are
without the pedirgee of tribal membership.
lbaker <tlbaker@nyc. rr.com> wrote:
Cherokee Nation votes to expel 'freedmen'
Cherokee Nation members voted
Saturday (3/3/2007) to revoke
the tribal citizenship of the
descendants of the people the
Cherokee once owned as slaves.
http://www.msnbc. msn.com/id/ 17442676/ from/ET/
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