Re: 60CS usage on commercial aircraft
- I find that the Garmin 60CS does interfere with my radio. If I have
my portable AM radio on and place the GPS unit close to it, it indeed
interferes. Radio receivers have internal oscillators. Energy from
those oscillators do radiate RF energy.
It is hard to believe though that it would interfere with the cockpit
instruments at the distance you would be from them. The regulations
are broad and conservative. No radios on board what so ever.
--- In GarminGPSMAP60C_60CS@yahoogroups.com, "TomDiederich"
> Anything that receives RF also generates RF. Normally it would beoff
> shielded and have only an extremely small amout of RF discharge.
> They probably are concerned that a shoddily built unit, or one that
> junior had taken apart to see how it works, could realistically
> interfere with the navigation systems. I used to work in
> communication and navigation in the Air Force.
> Its ultimately up to the pilot. 9-11 has probably had some impact
> on increasing restrictions of all types. My son recently flew home
> commercially with his eTrex and was instructed to shut it off and
> put it away.
> --- In GarminGPSMAP60C_60CS@yahoogroups.com, "davstern2001"
> <davstern@i...> wrote:
> > For years I have used my Vista on aircraft to pass the time
> > any problems. Last week I was on a American flight from Miami to
> > York. The stewardess saw my GPS and asked what it was. I told her
> > and she called the pilot and told me to turn it off as it would
> > interfere with his flight instruments, and if I didn't turn it
> > it would be confisgated and I would be arrested upon landing.Does
> > anyone know the regulations regarding usage? Or was this pilot
> > overstepping his bounds?
- First, to add to the thread on 60CS interfering with radios and cockpit
instruments, my 60CS interfered with my wireless bike computer (a
Specialized Elite) and I have had to switch for a wired bike computer.
Second, my 60CS fell out of the Garmin bicycle mount and broke, and is now
back at the factory being repaired. I have heard that older Garmin bicycle
mounts suffered from problems with the plastic fastener snapping off. In my
case, the GPS simply flew out of the cradle; the mount did not break. I was
riding on a mildly potholed road - nothing rough. Anyway, it seems
worthwhile to take the precaution of a using a backup mount, perhaps by
fastening the lanyard around the handlebars.
With my luck, it will probably get tangled in the front wheel spokes.
GPSless in Philadelphia
Electronic devices prohibited on flights are listed in the Airline
Magazine that is usually in the front pocket of your seat.
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Royal Oak, Michigan, USA
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On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 18:43:16 -0000 "davstern2001" <davstern@...>
>For years I have used my Vista on aircraft to pass the time without
>any problems. Last week I was on a American flight from Miami to New
>York. The stewardess saw my GPS and asked what it was. I told her
>and she called the pilot and told me to turn it off as it would
>interfere with his flight instruments, and if I didn't turn it off
>it would be confisgated and I would be arrested upon landing. Does
>anyone know the regulations regarding usage? Or was this pilot
>overstepping his bounds?
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- Hi Mike,
Take the hand lanyard and loop it through the hole by the antenna and
then loop it around the handle bar. It's still easy to remove and it
may come out of the mount, but it won't hit the ground or get in the
> With my luck, it will probably get tangled in the front wheelspokes.
> Mike Tordoff
> GPSless in Philadelphia
- It's not so much the instruments right at the cockpit but the,
literally, miles of wiring and other sensors running through out the
airplane that the equipment itself uses.
On Apr 1, 2004, at 6:43 AM, mike@... wrote:
> It is hard to believe though that it would interfere with the cockpit
> instruments at the distance you would be from them.