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Re: Rozbitsky Family or Nadworniak Family - Ukraine

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  • Andriy
    Good luck, Marcus! Andriy
    Message 1 of 7 , Feb 12, 2013
      Good luck, Marcus!

      Andriy

      --- In GaliciaPoland-Ukraine@yahoogroups.com, "Marcus" wrote:
      >
      > Andriy,
      > Thank you sooooo much! This is great information. I am ordering the church records today from the local LDS center, so hopefully I will find something.
      > Thank you again!
      > Marcus
      >
      > --- In GaliciaPoland-Ukraine@yahoogroups.com, "Andriy" wrote:
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Hi Marcus,
      > >
      > > Your situation in terms of metric records availability on Mukhavka (1869-1917) is quite comfortable, there's no need to fight with the CRO - Civil Registration Offices as many people who research villages in Ternopil Province do. The records can be either ordered at LDS center of researched in Ternopil Archives. As you note when you check the link provided by Laurence, they are mostly in Latin, with some Ukrainian and Polish.
      > >
      > > The name of the church your ancestors were baptized in is St. Paraskeva's Church, built in 1860, ruined during WWII, rebuilt afterwards. It does not operate now. This is how it looks now: http://www.muchawka.narod.ru/foto_5.jpg
      > > There was anew one built on the money of the community in 1990: http://www.muchawka.narod.ru/foto_7.jpg
      > >
      > > You say brother was listed as born in Yahil'nytsya. I think you should start with Muchawka records 1st and dig on Yahil'nytsya in case you do not find the record on Zachari. 2 villages are quite close and it often happened people named the bigger one in the area when they filled the questionnaires in. Yahilnytsia is a bigger village nowadays as well. Still, it's just a theory and I may be wrong.
      > >
      > > Muchawka is only about 6km from Yahil'nytsya and Tovste village. I have been to Tovste to do the research once. The area is quite picturesque.
      > > Muchawka is an old settlement. The 1st record dates to 1469. Why Muchawka? There was an uprising in Galicia in the 2nd half of the 15th century. It was led by a man called Mucha (it is a Polish spelling, teh word is pronounced /muha/, it means "a fly", the name of teh village is pronounced /mu'hawka/). When the rebellion was suppressed, one of participants settled at that place. There were about 250 houses in the village when your Great Grandfather was born. BTW, the archives may also have the so called "cadastral" records, the old maps with the house numbers. It may give you a chance to find your ancestral house after you research the metric records. You could find the house/the place where it was if you compared the old map with the nowadays map of the village. The population was 1281 people in 1900 and 1334 in 1910. There are about 700 only nowadays. If there are any relatives left it will not be difficult to find them.
      > >
      > >
      > > Regards,
      > > Andriy
      > >
      > >
      > > --- In GaliciaPoland-Ukraine@yahoogroups.com, "Marcus" wrote:
      > > >
      > > > Trying to find links to my past in back in the Ukraine. Does anyone have any connections or information on the village of Mukhavka, Ukraine or town of Yahil'nytsya, Ukraine in Ternopil's'ka oblast?
      > > >
      > > > What I know (or think I do):
      > > > Hutsul Tribe from the Ukraine
      > > > Ukrainian Catholic
      > > >
      > > > Great Great Grandfather and Grandmother Michael and Anna Rozbitsky
      > > > No information other than that
      > > >
      > > > Great Grandfather Nicholas Rozbitsky (Mikolaf Rozbycki)
      > > > Born 1888 or 1889 Mukhavka (Michewka, Muchowka), Ternopil', Ukraine
      > > > Came to New York City in 1910
      > > > Have records up until 1942 draft record (although no 1940 Census record)
      > > >
      > > > Had a brother Zachari Rozbycki who immigrated to Canada
      > > > Listed his birthplace as Yagilnica, Galicia, Austria, but think it was Yahil'nytsya, Ukraine
      > > > Crossed boarder at Sault Ste Marie, Michigan in 1913, but no other records.
      > > > Also shows his name as Charlie Ross
      > > >
      > > > Great Grandmother Anela (Ella) Nadworniak
      > > > No information other than from Galicia - Ukraine and a Hutsul
      > > >
      > > > Thank you!
      > > > Marcus Rozbitsky
      > > >
      > >
      >
    • Marcus
      Thanks for the help, I found my Great Grandfather s birth/baptism record. Need to go back and do some more looking for his brother and other relatives. Thanks!
      Message 2 of 7 , Mar 18, 2013
        Thanks for the help, I found my Great Grandfather's birth/baptism record. Need to go back and do some more looking for his brother and other relatives.
        Thanks!

        --- In GaliciaPoland-Ukraine@yahoogroups.com, "Andriy" <dorosh.andriy@...> wrote:
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > Hi Marcus,
        >
        > Your situation in terms of metric records availability on Mukhavka (1869-1917) is quite comfortable, there's no need to fight with the CRO - Civil Registration Offices as many people who research villages in Ternopil Province do. The records can be either ordered at LDS center of researched in Ternopil Archives. As you note when you check the link provided by Laurence, they are mostly in Latin, with some Ukrainian and Polish.
        >
        > The name of the church your ancestors were baptized in is St. Paraskeva's Church, built in 1860, ruined during WWII, rebuilt afterwards. It does not operate now. This is how it looks now: http://www.muchawka.narod.ru/foto_5.jpg
        > There was anew one built on the money of the community in 1990: http://www.muchawka.narod.ru/foto_7.jpg
        >
        > You say brother was listed as born in Yahil'nytsya. I think you should start with Muchawka records 1st and dig on Yahil'nytsya in case you do not find the record on Zachari. 2 villages are quite close and it often happened people named the bigger one in the area when they filled the questionnaires in. Yahilnytsia is a bigger village nowadays as well. Still, it's just a theory and I may be wrong.
        >
        > Muchawka is only about 6km from Yahil'nytsya and Tovste village. I have been to Tovste to do the research once. The area is quite picturesque.
        > Muchawka is an old settlement. The 1st record dates to 1469. Why Muchawka? There was an uprising in Galicia in the 2nd half of the 15th century. It was led by a man called Mucha (it is a Polish spelling, teh word is pronounced /muha/, it means "a fly", the name of teh village is pronounced /mu'hawka/). When the rebellion was suppressed, one of participants settled at that place. There were about 250 houses in the village when your Great Grandfather was born. BTW, the archives may also have the so called "cadastral" records, the old maps with the house numbers. It may give you a chance to find your ancestral house after you research the metric records. You could find the house/the place where it was if you compared the old map with the nowadays map of the village. The population was 1281 people in 1900 and 1334 in 1910. There are about 700 only nowadays. If there are any relatives left it will not be difficult to find them.
        >
        >
        > Regards,
        > Andriy
        >
        >
        > --- In GaliciaPoland-Ukraine@yahoogroups.com, "Marcus" wrote:
        > >
        > > Trying to find links to my past in back in the Ukraine. Does anyone have any connections or information on the village of Mukhavka, Ukraine or town of Yahil'nytsya, Ukraine in Ternopil's'ka oblast?
        > >
        > > What I know (or think I do):
        > > Hutsul Tribe from the Ukraine
        > > Ukrainian Catholic
        > >
        > > Great Great Grandfather and Grandmother Michael and Anna Rozbitsky
        > > No information other than that
        > >
        > > Great Grandfather Nicholas Rozbitsky (Mikolaf Rozbycki)
        > > Born 1888 or 1889 Mukhavka (Michewka, Muchowka), Ternopil', Ukraine
        > > Came to New York City in 1910
        > > Have records up until 1942 draft record (although no 1940 Census record)
        > >
        > > Had a brother Zachari Rozbycki who immigrated to Canada
        > > Listed his birthplace as Yagilnica, Galicia, Austria, but think it was Yahil'nytsya, Ukraine
        > > Crossed boarder at Sault Ste Marie, Michigan in 1913, but no other records.
        > > Also shows his name as Charlie Ross
        > >
        > > Great Grandmother Anela (Ella) Nadworniak
        > > No information other than from Galicia - Ukraine and a Hutsul
        > >
        > > Thank you!
        > > Marcus Rozbitsky
        > >
        >
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