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Re: Grandfather - Hnat Demczyszyn - Turka

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  • Laurence
    Hello Maria, Turiya is about 40 miles from L viv. Here is a map: http://maps.google.com/maps?z=9&q=50.0833,24.8333+(Turya) _________ Lavrentiy
    Message 1 of 47 , Nov 22, 2012
      Hello Maria,

      Turiya is about 40 miles from L'viv.

      Here is a map:

      http://maps.google.com/maps?z=9&q=50.0833,24.8333+(Turya)

      _________

      Lavrentiy




      --- In GaliciaPoland-Ukraine@yahoogroups.com, Maria Picker <maria_picker@...> wrote:
      >
      > Hi Laurence
      >  
      > Is it a difficult village to get to and how far would it be from Lviv.
      >  
      > Hopefully I will be able to go and visit next year with my mother and children
      >  
      > Maria
      >
      >
      > ________________________________
      > From: Laurence <Lkrupnak@...>
      > To: GaliciaPoland-Ukraine@yahoogroups.com
      > Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2012 7:41 AM
      > Subject: [GaliciaPoland-Ukraine] Re: Grandfather - Hnat Demczyszyn - Turka
      >
      >  
      > Hello Maria!
      >
      > The right place has been found. It's just that in old days the spelling of the place was Turie. Now, the place is spelled Turia or Turiya. When the place was in Poland, the Poles spelled the place Turze.
      >
      > ______
      >
      > Lavrentiy
      >
      > --- In mailto:GaliciaPoland-Ukraine%40yahoogroups.com, Maria Picker <maria_picker@> wrote:
      > >
      > > Hi Vladimir
      > >  
      > > Now that you have read the cryllic version is the village still Turie or do you think it is another village
      > >  
      > > Regards
      > >  
      > > Maria
      > >
      > >
      > > ________________________________
      > > From: Vladimir <vkresh@>
      > > To: mailto:GaliciaPoland-Ukraine%40yahoogroups.com
      > > Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2012 4:23 AM
      > > Subject: Re[2]: [GaliciaPoland-Ukraine] Re: Grandfather - Hnat Demczyszyn - Turka
      > >
      > >  
      > > Maria,
      > >
      > > I read Cyrillic version of the record and its translation. The original record says the village Turia, Radechiv district is where Ihnatiy (Ignatiy) was born. The record was made in 1942. Metrical books are kept in civil registrar's office for 75 years long.
      > >
      > > 21.11.2012 06:07, Maria Picker <mailto:maria_picker%40yahoo.com.au>
      > > >Hi Laurence
      > > >  
      > > > It was the state archives in Lviv that sent me the document
      > > >  
      > > > Maria
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > ________________________________
      > > > From: Laurence <mailto:Lkrupnak%40erols.com>
      > > > To: mailto:GaliciaPoland-Ukraine%40yahoogroups.com
      > > > Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2012 8:09 AM
      > > > Subject: [GaliciaPoland-Ukraine] Re: Grandfather - Hnat Demczyszyn - Turka
      > > >
      > > >  
      > > >
      > > > Hello Maria,
      > > >
      > > > I now understand your prior posts. Your mother was born in L'viv city and her father was born in Turie and her mother was born in Peremyshl, which is Ukrainian name for Przemysl, which is a city now located in Poland.
      > > >
      > > > Can you upload the report which the archives in Ukraine sent to you? Which office in L'viv sent the report - the state archive or L'viv city registry office?
      > > >
      > > > _______
      > > >
      > > > Lavrentiy
      > > >
      > > > --- In mailto:GaliciaPoland-Ukraine%40yahoogroups.com, "Laurence" <Lkrupnak@> wrote:
      > > > >
      > > > > /
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > Maria's upload is here:
      > > > >
      > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GaliciaPoland-Ukraine/files/
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > file called "Translated to English.pdf"
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > /
      > > > >
      > > > > --- In mailto:GaliciaPoland-Ukraine%40yahoogroups.com, Maria Picker <maria_picker@> wrote:
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Hi Laurence
      > > > > >  
      > > > > > I figured out how to attached the records to the folder section.
      > > > > >  
      > > > > > I have posted the copy received from the archives and what my mothers friend translated it to in english
      > > > > >  
      > > > > > Thanks
      > > > > >  
      > > > > > Maria
      > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > > > ________________________________
      > > > > > From: Laurence <Lkrupnak@>
      > > > > > To: mailto:GaliciaPoland-Ukraine%40yahoogroups.com
      > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2012 2:49 AM
      > > > > > Subject: [GaliciaPoland-Ukraine] Re: Grandfather - Hnat Demczyszyn - Turka
      > > > > >
      > > > > >  
      > > > > > Hello Maria,
      > > > > >
      > > > > > I would really like to see the e-mail which your daughter sent to the archives in Ukraine because I want to see how the name of the village was spelled in the the e-mail. Since there are two places near L'viv which have the name Turie I can only assume that the archives examined the records for both places. That is why it took eight weeks for the archives to find your grandmother's birth recdord.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Regarding the record which they sent and you want us to see it, you need to upload the image to the group's file section since the Yahoo server for this group deletes all attachments to posts which are submitted to the group.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Regarding Przemysl, Ukraine arechives can't help you since Przemysl is in Poland. Write to the Polish archives in Przemysl.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > ______
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Lavrentiy
      > > > > >
      > > > > > --- In mailto:GaliciaPoland-Ukraine%40yahoogroups.com, Maria Picker <maria_picker@> wrote:
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > Hi Laurence
      > > > > > >  
      > > > > > > I have attached a copy of the birth record sent from Lviv and what it translated to in english.
      > > > > > >  
      > > > > > > Unfortunately I cant sent you the email that I sent to Lviv as my daughter has that computer.I will ring her and get her to forward it to me and then send it to you.
      > > > > > >  
      > > > > > > I know I told the archives that my mother was born in Lviv and the date of her birth. I gave them both of her parents name and their date of birth.
      > > > > > >  
      > > > > > > I didn't hear anything for about eight weeks so I thought I wouldnt hear anything from them and the then they sent me an informing that they had found the record and how to pay for locating the record.
      > > > > > >  
      > > > > > > I have asked for my grandmothers record and provided the same infomation as she was born in Przemysl but they want more information. So it is very frustrating.
      > > > > > >  
      > > > > > > Regards
      > > > > > >  
      > > > > > > Maria
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > ________________________________
      > > > > > > From: Laurence <Lkrupnak@>
      > > > > > > To: mailto:GaliciaPoland-Ukraine%40yahoogroups.com
      > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2012 8:15 AM
      > > > > > > Subject: [GaliciaPoland-Ukraine] Re: Grandfather - Hnat Demczyszyn - Turka
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > >  
      > > > > > > Hello Marie,
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > There are two places near L'viv which have the name Turie.
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > I wonder how the archives knew which Turie (Turze) records to search (rhetorical question)? Maybe they searched both..if so you are lucky.
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > Did you perhaps give the district it was in?
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > Can you scan the letter which you sent to Ukraine and upload it?
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > Was your mother born in L'viv or in Turie?
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > Yes, upload the record which Ukraine sent to you.
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > ______
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > Lavrentiy
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > --- In mailto:GaliciaPoland-Ukraine%40yahoogroups.com, Maria Picker <maria_picker@> wrote:
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > Hi Laurence
      > > > > > > >  
      > > > > > > > I gave them the city that my mother was born in which was Lviv. The only information about my grandfather which I gave them was his name and date of birth. When we received her birth record her friencd transalated the document and she said Turie Village.
      > > > > > > >  
      > > > > > > > Would you like me to scan it to you and you can read it?
      > > > > > > >  
      > > > > > > > Regards
      > > > > > > >  
      > > > > > > > Maria
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > ________________________________
      > > > > > > > From: Laurence <Lkrupnak@>
      > > > > > > > To: mailto:GaliciaPoland-Ukraine%40yahoogroups.com
      > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2012 7:49 AM
      > > > > > > > Subject: [GaliciaPoland-Ukraine] Re: Grandfather - Hnat Demczyszyn - Turka
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > >  
      > > > > > > > Hello Maria,
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > In your letter to the archives in Ukraine, how did spell the name of the village? Did you spell the name as Turie or Turze or Turka or Turia or Turya? And, did you give the name of the region that it was in?
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > ______
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > Lavrentiy
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > --- In mailto:GaliciaPoland-Ukraine%40yahoogroups.com, Maria Picker <maria_picker@> wrote:
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > Hi Laurence
      > > > > > > > >  
      > > > > > > > > The information I gave the archives was her date of birth, the city that she was born in and the name of her parents.
      > > > > > > > >  
      > > > > > > > > It took three months for the record to be found
      > > > > > > > >  
      > > > > > > > > Cheers
      > > > > > > > >  
      > > > > > > > > Maria
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > ________________________________
      > > > > > > > > From: Laurence <Lkrupnak@>
      > > > > > > > > To: mailto:GaliciaPoland-Ukraine%40yahoogroups.com
      > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2012 2:00 AM
      > > > > > > > > Subject: [GaliciaPoland-Ukraine] Re: Grandfather - Hnat Demczyszyn - Turka
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > >  
      > > > > > > > > /
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > Hello Maria,
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > What information did you give to the archives in L'viv that they were able to find your mother's birth record?
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > _______
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > Lavrentiy
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > --- In mailto:GaliciaPoland-Ukraine%40yahoogroups.com, "Laurence" <Lkrupnak@> wrote:
      > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > Maria,
      > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > The village is Turie. It is in Radekhiv region (raion).
      > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > Austrian and Polish name of Turie was Turze.
      > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > See if LDS has Turie/Turze records on microfilm.
      > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > ________
      > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > Lavrentiy
      > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > --- In mailto:GaliciaPoland-Ukraine%40yahoogroups.com, Maria Picker <maria_picker@> wrote:
      > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > Hi Vladimir
      > > > > > > > > > >  
      > > > > > > > > > > On my mother's birth record which we only received from the Archives in Lviv a couple of months ago it has Turie Village Radechivskoho Region. I have tried to research on the internet the exact location and it always came up as Turka.
      > > > > > > > > > >  
      > > > > > > > > > > As the spelling changed regulary I assumed that this was the location.
      > > > > > > > > > >  
      > > > > > > > > > > Look forward to hearing from you.
      > > > > > > > > > >  
      > > > > > > > > > > Regards
      > > > > > > > > > >  
      > > > > > > > > > > Maria
      > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________
      > > > > > > > > > > From: Vladimir <vkresh@>
      > > > > > > > > > > To: mailto:GaliciaPoland-Ukraine%40yahoogroups.com
      > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, 19 November 2012 6:55 AM
      > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [GaliciaPoland-Ukraine] Grandfather - Hnat Demczyszyn - Turka
      > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > Maria,
      > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > In Lviv (Lvov) region there is a town Turka and in Ivano-Frankivsk (Ivano-Frankovsk) region there is a village Turka in Kolomia district.
      > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > Vladimir (Kherson, Ukraine)
      > > > > > > > > > > Researcher in Ukraine.
      > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > 18.11.2012 09:28, maria_picker <maria_picker@>
      > > > > > > > > > > >Hi
      > > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > My grandfather Hnat Demczyszyn was born on the 2 January 1907 in Turka.
      > > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > I would like any information about him and his family and if I have any relatives still alive in the village.
      > > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > My grandfather was greek catholic and I was wondering if there is still a church in the village and if they have would still have records. If they do have records does anybody have the address that I could write to.
      > > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks
      > > > > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > > > > Maria
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    • Laurence
      Hello Maria, Upload an image of the report/document which you received from Ukraine. _____ Lavrentiy
      Message 47 of 47 , Nov 23, 2012
        Hello Maria,

        Upload an image of the report/document which you received from Ukraine.

        _____

        Lavrentiy
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