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  • Laurence Krupnak
    Aug 23, 2014
      There is a cross-match between the Polish spelling's root meaning and Uke meaning:
      Polish spelling root is chowac~, which means to hide, lay away
      Uke: a khovanets...one who hides himself.
      But, Uke also has: foster son, pupil.  You'll probably never determine the root of your maternal great-grandmother's family name.  Finding the specific root of the family name is most difficult as there are no records why a family name was given, except for nobility.
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      Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 8:53 PM
      Subject: Re: [GaliciaPoland-Ukraine] Re: 1890s Ukrainian records outside of Lviv

      The derivation of the surname is very interesting. Although the polish root does seem more desirable....

      Do you find it difficult to do research with ancestors in such rural areas? Do you do genealogy professionally?


      On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 8:38 PM, 'Laurence Krupnak' Lkrupnak@... [GaliciaPoland-Ukraine] <GaliciaPoland-Ukraine@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



      Ukrainian Folk oral literature


      retained until recently a number of demonological figures: the domovyk (house demon); the khovanets (‘the hider’), who guards the home and helps the householders but can also do damage(if you don't treat him good (don't piss him off)


      Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 8:29 PM
      Subject: [GaliciaPoland-Ukraine] ] Re: 1890s Ukrainian records outside of Lviv


      Traditionally, every house is said to have its domovoi. It does not do evil unless angered by a family’s poor keep of the household, profane language or neglect. The domovoi is seen as the home's guardian, and he sometimes helps with household chores and field work. Some even treat them as part of the family, albeit an unseen one, and leave them gifts like milk and biscuits in the kitchen overnight. To attract a Domovoi, you would go outside of your house wearing your best clothing and say aloud "Grandfather Dobrokhot, please come into my house and tend the flocks." To rid yourself of a rival Domovoi, you would beat your walls with a broom, shouting "Grandfather Domovoi, help me chase away this intruder." When moving, some might make an offering to the Domovoi and say "Domovoi! Domovoi! Don't stay here but come with our family!"

      It is said the favorite place for these spirits to live is either the threshold under the door or under the stove. The center of the house is also said to be their domain. The Domovoi maintains peace and order, and rewards a well-maintained household. Some peasants feed him nightly in return for protection of their house. When a new house was built, the Polish homeowner would attract one of the domovye by placing a piece of bread down before the stove was put in, and the Russian one would coerce the old house's domovoi to move with the family by offering a bast shoe or an old boot as a hiding place. People made sure they only kept animals the domovoi liked, as he would torment the ones he did not. Salted bread wrapped in a white cloth would appease this spirit, and putting clean white linen in his room was an invitation to eat a meal with the family. Hanging old boots in the yard was another way to cheer him.

      Domovoi Peeping at the Sleeping Merchant Wife, by Boris Kustodiev.
      The domovoi was also an oracle, as his behavior could foretell or forewarn about the future. He would pull hair to warn a woman of danger from an abusive man. He would moan and howl to warn of coming trouble. If he showed himself, it forewarned of death, and if he was weeping it was said to be a death in the family. If he was laughing, good times could be expected, and if he strummed a comb there would be a wedding in the future.

      The domovoi does have a more malicious side. Although one's own domovoi could be considered an ally, the domovoi from a neighboring household brought no happiness. Russian folklore says that a domovoi could harass horses in the stable overnight, as well as steal the grain of a neighbour to feed his own horses. Still, domoviye could befriend one another and were said to gather together for loud winter parties.

      Tradition says if a domovoi becomes unhappy, it plays nasty tricks on the members of the household. Those include moving and rattling small objects, breaking dishes, leaving muddy little footprints, causing the walls of a house to creak, banging on pots and moaning. If the family can determine the cause of their domovoi's discontent, they can rectify the situation and return things to normal. If not, the spirit's tricks may escalate in intensity, coming to more closely resemble those of a poltergeist (cf. tomte), or he may threaten to stifle people in their beds (this myth is likely to be based on sleep paralysis). More often than not, however, families live in harmony with the spirits, and no problems arise.

      It is also said that Domovoi like to make the sound, "He! He! He!, Ho! Ho!, Ho!" when they are excited or happy.

      Name variations[edit]
      a.. Belarusian: Дамавiк (damavik)
      b.. Bosnian: Domaći
      c.. Bulgarian: Стопанин (stopanin)
      d.. Croatian: Domaći
      e.. Czech: Dědek
      f.. Polish: Domowoj, domowik
      g.. Russian: Домовой (domovoj)
      h.. Serbian: Домаћи (domaći)
      i.. Slovene: Dedek, Gospodarček
      j.. Slovak: Domovik
      k.. Ukrainian: Домовик (domovyk)
      Popular culture[edit]
      a.. In Cabals:The Card Game, Domovoi is one of the playable cards.
      b.. In the short novel Doctor Who: Sick Building, the mainframe of the Dreamhome, a futuristic luxury home, is called the Domovoi.
      c.. In Quest for Glory IV: Shadows of Darkness, a Domovoi is involved in one of the side quests needed to complete the game and was found only at night in the inn.
      d.. Domoviye also feature prominently in "The Spirit of Aunt Lois", an episode of the cartoon series The Real Ghostbusters.
      e.. Domovoi Butler is a character in the Artemis Fowl series of books
      f.. In the PS2 video game series Shadow Hearts, the Domovoi appears as a monster.
      g.. In the PS2 video game Culdcept and its sequel for the Xbox 360, Culdcept Saga, Domovoi is a playable card-monster, and has the ability to shield other creatures from damaging spells.
      h.. In the MMORPG Final Fantasy XI Domoviye are seen as an optional boss fight, a "Burning Circle Notorious Monster".
      i.. A Domovoi appears in the 2008 comic mini-series, Hellboy: Darkness Calls by Mike Mignola and Duncan Fegredo. He inhabits a house the family has deserted.
      j.. Domoviye or Domaći appear in the popular Croatian story from Ivana Brlić-Mažuranić (Šuma Striborova).
      k.. In Changes, a novel in the Dresden Files Series by Jim Butcher, the fairy Toot, a Polevoi or Little Folk, is mistaken for a Domovoi by Sanya the Russian Knight of the Cross.
      l.. Dancer Karina Smirnoff explained on an episode of The Biography Channel cable series Celebrity Ghost Stories that she believes she was attacked as a young girl by a friend's Domovoi when she tried to sleep in a room belonging to her friend's missing uncle.
      m.. The Rusalka trilogy of novels by C. J. Cherryh feature domovye.
      n.. In the social game Ravenwood Fair, by Lolapps, Inc. the Domovoi is a Non-player character which tries to hinder the player's actions.
      o.. In the game "Super Scribblenauts" he can cast by the notebook.
      p.. In the show, "Russian Dolls", Diana and Anastasia are told that there is a Domovoi in their apartment.
      q.. The Domovoy is featured as a mid-game enemy in the independently produced PC game The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing.
      r.. In the TV show Lost Girl a Domovoi is presented as a feral guard for Baba Yaga's treasure.
      s.. The video game The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing by Hungarian indie developer Neocore Games features a character called Domovoy Baggins. He can be seen at the Industrial Port and is carrying an unidentified ring with properties similar to the One Ring from Lord of the Rings. Domovoy also serves as a mascot for the company, he even has his own Facebook page.[3]
      t.. In the video game Ragnarok Odyssey, Domovye are portrayed as large rabbit-like rodents with a habit for storing things in poaches they carry on their backs. They're spell casting enemies who use sticks with fruit at the end to cast status effects.

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: 'Laurence Krupnak' Lkrupnak@... [rusyns]
      To: GaliciaPoland-Ukraine@yahoogroups.com ; rusyns@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 8:17 PM
      Subject: [rusyns] Re: 1890s Ukrainian records outside of Lviv


      Wiki has:

      a.. khovanets (as domovoi),

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: 'Laurence Krupnak' Lkrupnak@... [GaliciaPoland-Ukraine]
      To: GaliciaPoland-Ukraine@yahoogroups.com ; rusyns@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 8:03 PM
      Subject: [GaliciaPoland-Ukraine] Re: 1890s Ukrainian records outside of Lviv


      Chowaniec..is Polish spelling

      Khovanets ...Uke/Rus



      Supernatural beings in Slavic folklore

      A domovoi or domovoy (Russian: домово́й; IPA: [dəmɐˈvoj]; literally, "[he] from the house") is a house spirit in Slavic folklore. The plural form in Russian can be transliterated domoviye or domovye (with accent on the vowel after the v).

      Domovye are masculine, typically small, bearded, and sometimes covered in hair all over. According to some traditions, domovye take on the appearance of current or former owners of the house and have a grey beard, sometimes with tails or little horns. There are tales of neighbours seeing the master of the house out in the yard while in fact the real master is asleep in bed. It has also been said that domovye can take on the appearance of cats or dogs, but reports of this are fewer than of that mentioned before.[2] Other stories either give them completely monstrous appearance, or none at all.

      The actions performed by a domovoi vaguely resemble (but are not limited to) those of poltergeists and are not necessarily harmful.

      In the course of the 20th century, there have been notable reported sightings of domovye in Russia, many of which were purportedly "caught on tape".

      It is believed that saying the word "master" in front of a domovoy who shows itself to the person is a sign of praise to the creature and a proper way to address it, even for the family head.

      The Russian word barabashka (Russian: бараба́шка; "knocker, pounder") is a pejorative term sometimes used to describe domovye, although in this case its connotation purely corresponds to poltergeist activity.


      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Walter Nelson
      To: GaliciaPoland-Ukraine@yahoogroups.com ; Laurence Krupnak
      Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 7:11 PM
      Subject: Re: [GaliciaPoland-Ukraine] Re: 1890s Ukrainian records outside of Lviv

      Apologies, this is the correct link to the second half of the record - http://imgur.com/HYlQ0ba

      Also, thank you for the information on the name Wasyl. He was another interesting character... first immigration record I have of him is in 1904, making him among the first Ukrainian immigrants to Rochester.

      On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Walter Nelson <walter.john.nelson@...> wrote:


      This is the other side of the record: http://imgur.com/HYIQ0ba it lists another date (1956), but that is the date of the translation in Rochester... so I wonder where the error really is? I wonder if this is the story: Priest in Kuropatnyky transcribes the record from Latin into Ukrainian, and sends it to St Josaphat's, where it is then used as proof of her parents, then, later on (1956), Stella needs a copy in English, so the priest at St Josaphat's transcribes it into English for her. I cannot think of any reason she would need the document in 1956. So, I'm guessing she used it in 1933. Her sister died sometime in 1929 I believe, so it could be something for the probate court in Rochester. I will be looking into it.

      Got back about an hour ago from the library I was viewing the microfilm at... this is Michael Panacheda and Febronia Smoly's marriage record: http://imgur.com/6HJ2pC0 I interpret Febronia's mother's maiden name as "Cherwoniec"

      St Josaphat's was founded by immigrants from the Rohatyn area of Ukraine (where my ancestors are from!). My gg grandfather was one of the "founders" - i.e. one of the first patrons (immigrated in 1905), not sure whether or not he actually had much to do with the actual goings-on at the church, because he was only 17. My grandmother recalls a story of his that he "left the church" (meaning that specific church) at least for a little while because he thought one of the priests had "run away with the money." From what I read in the Ukrainian Special Collection at University of Rochester, really, the priest was called back to Europe for another assignment... where the money went, I guess we'll never know.


      On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 6:41 PM, 'Laurence Krupnak' Lkrupnak@... [GaliciaPoland-Ukraine] <GaliciaPoland-Ukraine@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


      Saint Josaphat's Ukrainian Catholic Church, Rochester, NY:

      The history of the parish can be traced back to the arrival of the first Ukrainian immigrants to the Rochester area in 1903. As more immigrants arrived, there developed a need to provide for the religious and cultural life of the people. In the early years, priests would travel St. Josaphat Church from Auburn, Buffalo, Elmira Heights and Troy, New York to administer to the spiritual needs of the faithful.

      The church community soon outgrew the Remington Street location and in 1914 the church moved to Hudson Avenue purchasing a church from the Evangelical society. St. Josaphat Church remained on Hudson Avenue for the next 50 years.





      ----- Original Message -----
      From: 'Laurence Krupnak' Lkrupnak@... [rusyns]
      To: GaliciaPoland-Ukraine@yahoogroups.com ; rusyns@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 6:32 PM
      Subject: [rusyns] Re: 1890s Ukrainian records outside of Lviv


      What is written on the other side of the Rochester record?

      Any speculation on why Stella needed the certificate in 1933?


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