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48333Re: 1890s Ukrainian records outside of Lviv

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  • Laurence Krupnak
    Aug 23 5:14 PM
      Hello Walter,
        Carpatho-Russian is in modern lexicon "Carpatho-Rusyn" or Rusyn.
      I still prefer Carpatho-Russian.  The societies like Carpatho-Rusyn Society want people to use Carpatho-Rusyn or Rusyn because the term Russian scares the hell of them.
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      Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 8:02 PM
      Subject: Re: [GaliciaPoland-Ukraine] Re: 1890s Ukrainian records outside of Lviv

      Carpatho Russians refers to the same group of people as the term "Rusyn", no?

      On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 7:59 PM, Walter Nelson <walter.john.nelson@...> wrote:
      The USP at U of R was very interesting wrt background history for Ukrainians in Rochester. However, don't go expecting any specific information about places or people.

      Laurence, where are your ancestors from in Galicia? Was Western PA the first place they settled?


      On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 7:51 PM, 'Laurence Krupnak' Lkrupnak@... [GaliciaPoland-Ukraine] <GaliciaPoland-Ukraine@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


           My parents and I moved to Syracuse in 1959 from Western PA, so I have a personal interest in the Eastern Slavic peoples who settled "Central New York-Rochester" area.

      Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 7:40 PM
      Subject: [GaliciaPoland-Ukraine] Re: 1890s Ukrainian records outside of Lviv



      Here's some information about St. Josaphat's (Rochester) Slavic brothers, the Carpatho-Russians, in Rochester:
      Some of this material is adapted from the earlier two histories of the parish, the first being
      the 1973 consecration of the church building, and the other the twentieth anniversary book
      from 1984. Other sources of information include oral history interviews done in early 2014
      with parish members and the authors own experiences in the parish.
      The parish originated with a loosely knit group of friends and acquaintances in the
      Rochester NY area. Many of them were transplants to Rochester who had come here to
      work at Kodak, Xerox and other companies. A number of these folks were from a
      “Carpatho-Russian” background, often from towns along the border region of New York
      and Pennsylvania, which with some cities in the Mid-West was the heartland of this
      immigrant group and a key location in the development of today’s OCA. The Glus,
      Michalko, Staschak, Sweda and and the Wargo families were all Carpatho-Russians, for

      The Carpatho-Russian ethnic group is unknown to many, and yet is worth some attention,
      as they were a vital component in the development of the OCA. They are a Slavic people,
      not Russians or Ukrainians, but a distinct group of their own, from the borderlands of
      Central and Eastern Europe. They never had an independent state of their own. They were
      largely rural peasants, in areas that at various times were under Russian, Polish, or
      Austrian- Hungarian rule. In the late 19th and early 20th centuries many came to the United
      States, to the coal mining regions of Pennsylvania...
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      Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 6:41 PM
      Subject: [GaliciaPoland-Ukraine] Re: 1890s Ukrainian records outside of Lviv



      Saint Josaphat's Ukrainian Catholic Church, Rochester, NY:
      The history of the parish can be traced back to the arrival of the first Ukrainian immigrants to the Rochester area in 1903. As more immigrants arrived, there developed a need to provide for the religious and cultural life of the people. In the early years, priests would travel St. Josaphat Church from Auburn, Buffalo, Elmira Heights and Troy, New York to administer to the spiritual needs of the faithful.
      The church community soon outgrew the Remington Street location and in 1914 the church moved to Hudson Avenue purchasing a church from the Evangelical society. St. Josaphat Church remained on Hudson Avenue for the next 50 years.
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      Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 6:32 PM
      Subject: [rusyns] Re: 1890s Ukrainian records outside of Lviv



      What is written on the other side of the Rochester record?
      Any speculation on why Stella needed the certificate in 1933?

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