22206Re: [Galicia_Poland-Ukraine] Similuk/Samulak and Myroniuk Surnames
- Sep 1, 2008Witam,
Ruthenian does not mean Ukranian. I would not exclude Russian or even
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From: "Jim Onyschuk" <jodanji@...>
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 10:41 AM
Subject: RE: [Galicia_Poland-Ukraine] Similuk/Samulak and Myroniuk Surnames
If “race was always Ruthenian,” then they were Ukrainian.
I find it interesting that your GGrandmother was born in Zalucze, Zeremosz,
Poland, while your GGrandfather was born in Zaluczne, Sniatyn, Ukraine. A
slight spelling difference. According to the Lenius “Genealogical Gazetteer
of Galicia,” there is no Zaluczne associated with Sniatyn, there however is
a “Zalucze. nad Czeremoszem” associated with Sniatyn. This is no doubt, the
Zalucze, “Zeremosz” of your GGrandmother and it’s not in Poland.
The trouble with transliterating from Cyrillic is the many variations one
gets with the Roman alphabet.
What Immigration Records were you referring to?
The “uk” ending was usually found in Western Ukraine. An “ak” ending is a
common Polish variant.
Have you done your own search using the microfilms available through the
LDS? There are a number of films that have recently become available for
“Zalucze. nad Czeremoszem”.
Here are excerpts from the Family History Library Catalogue.
Greek Catholic Church. Załucze nad Czeremoszem (Sniatyn) (Main Author)
Microreproduction of original manuscripts at the State Archives of
Ivano-Frankivs′k Region, Ukraine.
Greek Catholic Church records (births, marriages, deaths) in Załucze nad
Czeremoszem (Sniatyn), Galizien, Austria; later Załucze nad Czeremoszem
(Sniatyn), Stanisławów, Poland; now Horishnie Zaluchchia and Dolishnie
Zaluchchia, Sniatyn, Ivano-Frankivs′k, Ukraine. Text in Latin, Ukrainian and
Record group 631, series 1, files 521-523, 536-538.
on 3 microfilm reels ; 35 mm.
Note - Location [Film]
Volume 631-1/521 Births 1902-1906 (Horishnie Zaluchchia) - FHL INTL Film
[ 1696908 Item 6 ]
Volume 631-1/521 (cont.) Births 1906-1923 (Horishnie Zaluchchia) - FHL INTL
Film [ 1696909 Item 1 ]
Volume 631-1/522 Marriages 1882-1920 (Horishnie Zaluchchia) - FHL INTL Film
[ 1696909 Item 2 ]
Volume 631-1/523 Deaths 1883-1914 (Horishnie Zaluchchia) - FHL INTL Film
[ 1696909 Item 3 ]
Volume 631-1/536 Births 1868-1886 (Dolishnie Zaluchchia) - FHL INTL Film
[ 1696788 Item 2 ]
Volume 631-1/537 Births 1887-1902 (Dolishnie Zaluchchia) - FHL INTL Film
[ 1696788 Item 3 ]
Volume 631-1/538 Deaths 1859-1883 (Dolishnie Zaluchchia) - FHL INTL Film
[ 1696788 Item 4 ]
[mailto:Galicia_Poland-Ukraine@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of graphixkat
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 4:02 AM
Subject: [Galicia_Poland-Ukraine] Similuk/Samulak and Myroniuk Surnames
I have been working on a family tree for years. Problem is I just
can't get anything beyond the Detroit Border Crossing for my great
grandparents. I was just wondering if anyone reading this might have
GrGrandmother Accelina Katherine Myroniuk born according to
immigration records 31 Mar 1888 in Zalucze, Zeremosz, Poland. Please
let me know if these places are wrongly named since though I have
tried, my geography is still not very good for that portion of the
world. She had a sister named Caterina Solowon according to the
border crossing records. Accelina "Kate" and her husband were
apparently also in Canada for a time before immigrating to the
GrGrandfather Dymitri Samulak..Similuk in States at least for some of
the siblings and some used Samulak. He was born abt 1888 in
Zaluczne, Dist.of Sniatyn, Ivano-Frankivsk, Ukraine, again please
correct me on names if I am wrong. According to a genealogist who
did a tree for a lawyer because of a death, his brother Ivan
Petrovych Semeluk and his wife Paraska Romanivna Kuzenko, family
still in Ukraine, used the name Semeluk. I am curious which form of
that name would be correct in Poland/Ukraine. Race was always
Ruthenian on border crossings.
So if anyone can give me anything helpful..even if it's just
corrrections on spelling, locations whatever I would appreciate it so
much. I have more family member names of Ivan still in Ukraine if
anyone is interested. Thanks in advance and even the smallest help
would mean a lot.
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