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10945Re: "Sabordash, Kiel Province, Russia"

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  • krupniak
    Sep 1, 2006
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      Near Kielce perhaps one of the following places is "Sabordash":



      Zagórze 50°51'N 20°40'E E M U Poland 1.2 miles N
      Zagrody 50°50'N 20°32'E E M U Poland 5.8 miles W
      Zalesie 50°51'N 20°32'E E M U Poland 5.9 miles W
      Zgórsko 50°49'N 20°32'E E M U Poland 5.9 miles W
      Zam³ynie Kostom³oty 50°55'N 20°35'E E M U Poland 6.8 miles NNW
      Zbrza 50°44'N 20°35'E E M U Poland 7.8 miles SSW
      Zagnañsk Zab³ocie 50°57'N 20°40'E E M U Poland 8.1 miles N
      Zagnañsk Jaworze, Jaworze 50°57'N 20°40'E E M U Poland 8.1 miles N
      Zagnañsk Siod³a 50°57'N 20°39'E E M U Poland 8.1 miles N
      Zawada 50°51'N 20°28'E E M U Poland 8.8 miles W
      Zelejowa 50°49'N 20°28'E E M U Poland 8.8 miles W
      Zagnañsk Œciêgno, Zagnañsk Œciêgna 50°58'N 20°41'E E M U Poland 9.2
      miles N
      Zaborze 50°42'N 20°41'E E M U Poland 9.2 miles S
      Zaszosie 50°58'N 20°42'E E M U Poland 9.3 miles N
      Zagnañsk Zache³mie 50°58'N 20°42'E E M U Poland 9.3 miles N
      Zagnañsk Lekomin 50°58'N 20°42'E E M U Poland 9.3 miles N
      Zagnañsk Gruszka 50°58'N 20°42'E E M U Poland 9.3 miles N
      Zache³mie 50°58'N 20°42'E E M U Poland 9.3 miles N
      Zagnañsk Chrusty 50°59'N 20°40'E E M U Poland 10.4 miles N
      Zagnañsk W¹sosze, Zagnañsk W¹sosza 50°59'N 20°41'E E M U Poland 10.4
      miles N
      Zagnañsk 50°59'N 20°41'E E M U Poland 10.4 miles N
      Zalezianka 50°59'N 20°45'E E M U Poland 11.0 miles NNE
      Zaskale 50°58'N 20°49'E E M U Poland 11.3 miles NE
      Zagórze 50°58'N 20°49'E E M U Poland 11.3 miles NE
      ¯erniki 50°45'N 20°24'E E M U Poland 13.0 miles WSW
      Zofiówka 50°50'N 20°58'E E M U Poland 13.1 miles E
      Zaogrodzie 50°39'N 20°48'E E M U Poland 13.9 miles SSE
      Zaj¹czków 50°52'N 20°21'E E M U Poland 14.0 miles W
      Zaroœle 50°47'N 20°20'E E M U Poland 14.9 miles WSW
      Zrêcze Ma³e 50°37'N 20°47'E E M U Poland 15.8 miles SSE
      Zakrucze 50°50'N 20°18'E E M U Poland 16.0 miles W
      ¯ydówek 50°36'N 20°38'E E M U Poland 16.2 miles S
      ¯ydów 50°36'N 20°38'E E M U Poland 16.2 miles S
      Z³ota Woda 50°47'N 21°02'E E M U Poland 16.4 miles ESE
      Zarzecze 50°54'N 21°02'E E M U Poland 16.6 miles ENE
      Zaborowice Du¿e, Zaborowice 51°03'N 20°29'E E M U Poland 17.0 miles
      NNW
      Zrêcze Du¿e, Zrecze 50°36'N 20°48'E E M U Poland 17.1 miles SSE
      Zazdroœæ 51°02'N 20°25'E E M U Poland 17.6 miles NW
      Zastawie 51°03'N 20°27'E E M U Poland 17.7 miles NNW
      Zarêby 50°47'N 21°04'E E M U Poland 17.8 miles E
      Zamkowa Wola, Wola Zamkowa 50°49'N 21°05'E E M U Poland 18.2 miles
      E
      Z³otniki 50°46'N 20°15'E E M U Poland 18.8 miles WSW
      ¯yciny 50°39'N 21°00'E E M U Poland 19.3 miles SE
      Zofiówka 50°36'N 20°55'E E M U Poland 19.5 miles SE
      Zawada 50°34'N 20°49'E E M U Poland 19.5 miles SSE
      Zbrojów 51°07'N 20°43'E E M U Poland 19.7 miles N
      ¯arczyce Du¿e 50°48'N 20°13'E E M U Poland 19.8 miles W
      Zalesie 50°43'N 21°05'E E M U Poland 19.9 miles ESE
      Zagrody 50°34'N 20°51'E E M U Poland 20.1 miles SSE
      ¯arczyce Ma³e 50°47'N 20°12'E E M U Poland 20.7 miles W
      ¯arczyce 50°47'N 20°12'E E M U Poland 20.7 miles W
      Zbielutka, Zbelutka 50°44'N 21°07'E E M U Poland 20.8 miles ESE
      Zielonki 50°38'N 20°17'E E M U Poland 21.7 miles SW
      Zwierzyniec 50°31'N 20°43'E E M U Poland 22.0 miles S
      Zegartowice 50°33'N 20°24'E E M U Poland 22.8 miles SSW
      Zapniów 50°58'N 21°09'E E M U Poland 23.0 miles ENE
      Zdunów 51°10'N 20°37'E E M U Poland 23.1 miles N
      Zalesie 50°47'N 20°08'E E M U Poland 23.5 miles W
      Zakrzów 50°46'N 20°08'E E M U Poland 23.7 miles W
      Zagaje 50°34'N 20°19'E E M U Poland 23.9 miles SW
      Zbrodzice 50°29'N 20°46'E E M U Poland 24.6 miles S
      Zaborze 50°30'N 20°53'E E M U Poland 24.9 miles SSE
      Zaj¹czkowice 50°53'N 21°14'E E M U Poland 24.9 miles E
      Zakrzów 50°29'N 20°31'E E M U Poland 25.0 miles SSW
      Zagaje Boleszyñskie 50°57'N 21°13'E E M U Poland 25.3 miles ENE
      Zapusty 50°32'N 21°00'E E M U Poland 25.3 miles SE
      Zdanowice 50°40'N 20°09'E E M U Poland 25.3 miles WSW
      Zagrody 50°36'N 21°07'E E M U Poland 25.4 miles SE
      Zychy 51°06'N 20°15'E E M U Poland 25.8 miles NW
      Zagórze 50°37'N 20°11'E E M U Poland 25.9 miles SW
      ¯erniki Górne 50°28'N 20°48'E E M U Poland 26.0 miles SSE
      ¯erniki Dolne 50°30'N 20°57'E E M U Poland 26.1 miles SSE
      ¯erniki 50°30'N 20°57'E E M U Poland 26.1 miles SSE
      ¯erniki 50°47'N 21°16'E E M U Poland 26.4 miles E
      Zagajówek 50°29'N 20°25'E E M U Poland 26.5 miles SSW
      Zagajów 50°29'N 20°25'E E M U Poland 26.5 miles SSW
      Zwola 50°52'N 21°17'E E M U Poland 27.0 miles E
      Zabrody 50°58'N 20°04'E E M U Poland 27.7 miles WNW
      Zagoœæ 50°26'N 20°37'E E M U Poland 27.7 miles S
      Ziemblice 50°33'N 21°07'E E M U Poland 27.8 miles SE
      Zaldów 50°44'N 21°17'E E M U Poland 27.8 miles ESE
      Zbijów 51°11'N 20°59'E E M U Poland 27.8 miles NNE
      Zbludowice 50°26'N 20°45'E E M U Poland 27.9 miles S
      Zbijów Ma³y, Zbijów 51°10'N 21°02'E E M U Poland 28.0 miles NE
      Zagumnie 50°36'N 21°12'E E M U Poland 28.3 miles SE
      Zagórzyce 50°26'N 20°29'E E M U Poland 28.8 miles SSW
      Zagoœæ-Stara, Stara Zagoœæ 50°25'N 20°36'E E M U Poland 28.9 miles
      S
      Zimnowoda 50°38'N 21°15'E E M U Poland 29.0 miles ESE
      Zaostrów 51°02'N 20°04'E E M U Poland 29.5 miles WNW
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      "wfhoffman" <WFHoffman@...> wrote:
      >
      > Hi,
      >
      > Sylvia wrote:
      >
      > > I was trying to assist someone that has some incorrect
      information on his
      > > family.
      > > The information has, "Sabordash, Kiel Province, Russia".
      >
      > One possibility worth investigating is that this refers to a place
      in Kielce
      > gubernia (province), which was in Russian Poland. I can't think of
      any other
      > province of the Russian Empire with a name beginning Kiel-, and
      it's
      > conceivable someone might have abbreviated "Kielce" as "Kiel." Of
      course, if
      > the place in question was in the Russian Empire, it couldn't have
      been in
      > Galicia -- but Kielce gubernia did lie just north of the border
      between
      > Galicia and the Russian partition.
      >
      > I'm afraid the name of the place is still going to be a problem,
      however.
      > "Sabordash" does not show up in any of my sources, and that form is
      not
      > viable as a Polish name. It's probably been mangled somewhere along
      the
      > line. Phonetically it might be connected with a place name
      beginning
      > Zabrod-, but the "-ash" part is hard to account for.
      >
      > Obviously if the place name is way off, we can't assume the "Kiel
      province"
      > part is reliable, either. But in my experience the names of
      provincial
      > centers were less likely to be mangled past all recognition, simply
      because
      > there weren't so many of them. With individual towns and villages
      there's no
      > telling how badly they could be distorted; but more often than not
      you can
      > puzzle out the name of the province.
      >
      > Don't take my word for gospel, but I thought this was a suggestion
      worth
      > making. The place you're looking for may not be in Russia at all,
      but rather
      > in one of the former western provinces of the Russian Empire. And
      of those
      > provinces, Kielce is the best bet.
      >
      > Hope that helps a bit.
      >
      > Fred Hoffman
      >
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