Re: Response from FCC et al on GMRS/APRS
- I would say not necessarily in that the original question posed to
the FCC was of the Garmin System (on GMRS) could more/less be tied
into Ham Radio APRS (on Amateur Radio). I've always been under the
impression that cross-service traffic has never been allowed or at
least looked favorably on. The part-95 section listed below
basically says unless it's an emergency a non-ham can't talk on a
ham frequency. Much like in Theory a Non-GMRS Licensee can't
transmit on GMRS frequencies (we know the reality). So even though
I'm licensed for GMRS and Amateur Radio, I can't set up any sort of
patching between the two, voice, digital or otherwise.
Now the Garmin-Rino thing muddys the GMRS waters by
allowing "Officially" (according to what I'm reading here and in
catalogs), non-licensed users to access GMRS frequencies for "Data"
only. The radios still use Channels 15-22 in voice too, so what's
the point of the license?
I'm curious is anyone has written the FCC and asked straight
up, "Why is non-licensed data being allowed on frequencies voice
users must obtain a fee based license for?" I'd be curious to their
answers to that. They're willing to take the $85 I just shelled out
to relicense and could've used on something else. What do I get for
--- In GMRS@yahoogroups.com, "Walters" <abacuspc@...> wrote:
> Boy, so unless you are sure that transmitting the Garmin data is
an emergency messgage, the answer is NO. Therefiore why would
anyone build the thing for only the extremely limited use it might
get. You could not use it in a drill and testing would be
impossible. Only chnace to use it would be in a live emregency.
> Stan Walters
> President, York County REACT
> AB3EM - WQFD736 - KIS5155
> CERT,T&RA, ET&RA,Highway Watch
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ray_Vaughan_99
> To: GMRS@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 5:48 PM
> Subject: [GMRS] Re: Response from FCC et al on GMRS/APRS
> For those that don't have the rules handy:
> TITLE 47--TELECOMMUNICATION
> CHAPTER I--FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION (CONTINUED)
> PART 95_PERSONAL RADIO SERVICES--Table of Contents
> Subpart A_General Mobile Radio Service (GMRS)
> Sec. 95.183 Prohibited communications.
> (a) A station operator must not communicate:
> (13) Messages (except emergency messages) to any station in the
> Amateur Radio Service, to any unauthorized station, or to any
> > From: ALORDNAPA@ [mailto:ALORDNAPA@]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 1:24 PM
> > To: Riley Hollingsworth
> > Subject: GMRS and APRS Question
I know you are very busy and hope that my question is not too
complicated to be handled easily. My question is whether or not it
would be permissable to construct and operate a uni-directional,
cross-band digipeater that receives the proprietary Garmin "Rhino"
data positions, screens out call signs not identified as Search and
Rescue units, and reformats the information for transmission on the
Amatuer Radio Services APRS network. This assumes a properly
licensed control operator of the APRS side, and properly licensed
GMRS users on the input side.
Allen R. Lord
VHS Special Services
- Merry Christmas to the city with the statistical best chance of snow
on Christmas Eve. Boy I don't miss that!
Simmer down, John.
GPS data is not permitted on GMRS, 25 kHz channels. These are the
ones you need a license for.
It's only allowed on the FRS 12.5 kHz channels [7 of which happen to
be shared with the GMRS 'interstitial' channels].
Channels that any Tom, Dick or Harry can get on legally with 1/2 watt
Walter, WPXP269, KD7BJJ
--- In GMRS@yahoogroups.com, "John Marcel (K1FDD)" <jmarcel66@...>
> Now the Garmin-Rino thing muddys the GMRS waters by
> allowing "Officially" (according to what I'm reading here and in
> catalogs), non-licensed users to access GMRS frequencies for "Data"
> only. The radios still use Channels 15-22 in voice too, so what's
> the point of the license?
> I'm curious is anyone has written the FCC and asked straight
> up, "Why is non-licensed data being allowed on frequencies voice
> users must obtain a fee based license for?" I'd be curious to their
> answers to that. They're willing to take the $85 I just shelled out
> to relicense and could've used on something else. What do I get for
> John Marcel
> Penacook, NH