Re: The man behind the Hardy Boys Nancy Drew
- My favorite teen sleuth as a kid was neither Nancy Drew or the Hardy Boys,
but Kay Tracy. Her book "The Mansion of Secrets" deals with an old house more
full of secret passages than "The Cat and the Canary" and Udolpho put together.
Pure bliss for an 11 year-old.
As long as secret passages are not used to "solve" impossible crimes, they
are a lot of fun. British Golden Age writers such as R.A.J. Walling sometimes
included them in their books.
Very interesting article!
- A newspaper feature several years ago postulated that the evolution
of the Nancy Drew character over the decades reflected the evolution
in the status of women and girls in American society. One thing that
is clear from the outset of the two series is that Nancy is in a
higher socioeconomic category than the Hardy Boys. She is the
daughter of a lawyer and has her own car, whereas the Hardy Boys are
the sons of a retired New York City police detective who has gone
into private practice, and they are lucky to have motorcycles at the
beginning of the series before the rewards from their solving of
mysteries enable them to get a boat and a car. Mrs. Hardy works at
home, unless trips out of town turn the family over to the tender
mercies of Aunt Gertrude (I suspect that Aunt Gertrude was more than
Mrs. Hardy could put up with for very long.) As the newspaper
article put it, Nancy Drew fulfilled the dream of not having a mother
to interfere with her sleuthing and was able to run her own household
through the housekeeper, and as an only child did not have to share
the attention of her father with any siblings. Her two girlfriends
George and Bess reflected the complementary assertive and passive
sides of being a girl in that society. Ned Nickerson her boyfriend
was around when Nancy needed him and even jealous of other boys if
they showed up, but made no demands upon Nancy that restricted her
freedom. Supposedly this emancipated Nancy in the early years of the
series (the 1930s) gave way to a more traditional character as
America went through World War Two and into the 1950s, then Nancy
became more emancipated again in later decades. Comparatively
speaking, the Hardy Boys did not undergo such a social change. --
--- In GAdetection@yahoogroups.com, Emily Wagner <nativedenver@y...>
> It has been many years since I read Nancy Drew or the
> Hardy Boys, but my recollection is that, while there
> may have been an Aunt Gertrude (I remember her only
> from the MMC, and not from the books), there is
> definitely a Mrs. Hardy.
> In the Cliff House, or whatever it was called, she
> receives the letter from her husband and is disturbed
> that he did not include their secret sign, which is
> what tipped her off that all was not well.
> There is, on the other hand, no Mrs. Drew. Mr. Drew is
> a widower, and the family is looked after by Hannah,
> the housekeeper.
> --- aria376 <aria376@y...> wrote:
> > That's what I recall too, Barry. "Aunt Gertrude"
> > even made the television transition when
> > The Hardy Boys first appeared (on The Mickey Mouse
> > Club).
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- --- brucknerfan1951 <Brucknerfan1951@...> wrote:
> ComparativelyI have not read any of the current Hardy Boys books,
> speaking, the Hardy Boys did not undergo such a
> social change. --
but I have glanced through a couple of them at the
bookstore, and it seems to me that they are now
reflective of what passes for "drama" on television
these days. That is, there is not so much "detection"
as there are explosions and car chases and fights.
I notice that they also killed off at least one of
their girlfriends from the old days, the one with the
Perhaps I'm not being entirely fair, but it was enough
to put me off wanting to read them.
I also notice that they are releasing a number of
other children's mystery series that I remember from
my childhood. I saw Trixie Belden in the store, and I
think I even saw some Bobbsey Twins.
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- Lo and behold, on 6 Nov 2004 at 8:31, Emily Wagner sayeth thus:
>No! Did they kill Iola Morton? Say it ain't so...
> --- brucknerfan1951 <Brucknerfan1951@...> wrote:
> > Comparatively
> > speaking, the Hardy Boys did not undergo such a
> > social change. --
> I have not read any of the current Hardy Boys books,
> but I have glanced through a couple of them at the
> bookstore, and it seems to me that they are now
> reflective of what passes for "drama" on television
> these days. That is, there is not so much "detection"
> as there are explosions and car chases and fights.
> I notice that they also killed off at least one of
> their girlfriends from the old days, the one with the
> oldest-fashioned name.
She was my favouritest girl back when.
The human race, to which so many of my
- G. K. Chesterton
- --- Christian Henriksson
> No! Did they kill Iola Morton? Say it ain't so...Indeed.
With a car bomb, no less...
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