Re: [G104] Re: M4A1(76)HVSS in Vilseck
- I just realized I made a typo with the hull casting serial number, it is 1314, not 1413. Here is a photo of it. That is still not very many hulls produced in that amount of time though.MichaelFrom: Pierre-Olivier <soldat_ryan@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 6:29 PM
Subject: [G104] Re: M4A1(76)HVSS in VilseckNote that "Armagnac II" was another early M4A3(76) with XLR turret in use with 12ème RCA, 2nd French Armored Div. However its SN/RN are unknown :
--- In mailto:G104%40yahoogroups.com, "Joe DeMarco" <snick13@...> wrote:
> >this is SN 68648, stamped in the "French location" on the transmission housing and build no. 1-942.
> This would have been accepted in April, 1945. The build number is about 5 short of of the actual sequence, so pretty close & useful in the case of missing Serial Number.
> >hull casting is General Steel, with firewall date 1-45, No.1413 cast in next to the date.
> You can see there was a pretty good time lag between when the hull was cast, & when it was actually used.
> GS must have been cutting back on hull production as things wound down, since #1435 is dated 3-45 C.
> >The really surprising thing is that it has an XLR turret.
> Well from the above, it's obvious that that can't possibly be original to that tank, just by the dates.
> P-O recently "found" the serial number of Champagne. No surprise that it is an exact mathematical match to the USA Number seen in period photos.
> The 2eme DB had another early M4A3(76) USA 3099835, named Picardie in the Liberation photos, & then Savoie when it was KO'd months later.
> At first I was thinking maybe that could be its turret, but it has all those MDAP fribbles & flapdoodles on it, so it was most likely put on in the States.