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RE: [G104] Sherman VS Tiger on the Military Channel

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  • Gregory Winters
    Yes I saw it. It was quite a production. The Tiger was a T-34 in conversion. The M-4 s were a single M-4, 76mm, VVHS. Greg Winters Redding, CA ... From:
    Message 1 of 5 , Apr 10, 2005
      Yes I saw it.



      It was quite a "production." The "Tiger" was a T-34 in conversion.



      The M-4's were a single M-4, 76mm, VVHS.



      Greg Winters

      Redding, CA



      -----Original Message-----
      From: MSW [mailto:kozakcowboy@...]
      Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 5:58 AM
      To: G104@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [G104] Sherman VS Tiger on the Military Channel



      Hi I was catching a few Z's on Friday. I had a show on (don't remember the
      title) where they compare a piece of military equipment (for example a piece

      of British artillery from WW I against a similar piece used by Germany (it
      was a howitzer).

      They used 4 criteria when basing their opinions on which piece was better.
      They have modern British soldiers using the actual pieces . They showed the
      pieces in combat, showed their effectiveness and their reliability and they
      asked experts (since most WWI have sadly passed on)

      The frustrating thing was later while I was snoozing they did the same thing

      with a Sherman vs a Tiger. Aghhh!

      I woke up to 3 or 4 British Sherman vets saying they all felt like they were

      "expendable in a Sherman" because " on average it took four Shermans to
      take out one Tiger".

      At the end of the program the British Sherman Vets and a German Tiger Vet
      were asked which tank they wished they had been in all five replied "the
      Tiger!"

      If you saw the show, which Sherman was used in the comparison part of the
      program? Was it the Firefly? I couldn't tell as I missed that segment.

      The program looked like a co productiion with the US and Britain. They has
      some of the British experts from the British series "Tanks" in it.

      Has anyone seen this program?

      Cheers, Michael




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    • Christopher Fisher
      The same show was on again today (Sunday). It often shows up on the listings as simply World War 2 . I saw the same episode a few months ago when I was
      Message 2 of 5 , Apr 10, 2005
        The same show was on again today (Sunday). It often
        shows up on the listings as simply "World War 2". I
        saw the same episode a few months ago when I was still
        living in Milwaukee. There was also a show this
        weekend ranking the top ten tanks of all time, with
        the Sherman in the number ten slot if I recall.

        I don't recall the producers of the show making a
        great deal of effort to differentiate between the
        various sub types of Sherman. I do recall seeing them
        driving what looked to be an M4A3.

        I'd suggest keeping an eye on the weekend listing of
        the Military channel, as they seem to recycle the same
        set of programs with a great deal of regularity.
        Though their shows are produced for something of a
        more general interest, so they won't go into depth
        about technical details as a specialist publication
        might.


        --- MSW <kozakcowboy@...> wrote:
        > Hi I was catching a few Z's on Friday. I had a show
        > on (don't remember the
        > title) where they compare a piece of military
        > equipment (for example a piece
        > of British artillery from WW I against a similar
        > piece used by Germany (it
        > was a howitzer).
        >
        > They used 4 criteria when basing their opinions on
        > which piece was better.
        > They have modern British soldiers using the actual
        > pieces . They showed the
        > pieces in combat, showed their effectiveness and
        > their reliability and they
        > asked experts (since most WWI have sadly passed on)
        >
        > The frustrating thing was later while I was snoozing
        > they did the same thing
        > with a Sherman vs a Tiger. Aghhh!
        >
        > I woke up to 3 or 4 British Sherman vets saying they
        > all felt like they were
        > "expendable in a Sherman" because " on average it
        > took four Shermans to
        > take out one Tiger".
        >
        > At the end of the program the British Sherman Vets
        > and a German Tiger Vet
        > were asked which tank they wished they had been in
        > all five replied "the
        > Tiger!"
        >
        > If you saw the show, which Sherman was used in the
        > comparison part of the
        > program? Was it the Firefly? I couldn't tell as I
        > missed that segment.
        >
        > The program looked like a co productiion with the US
        > and Britain. They has
        > some of the British experts from the British series
        > "Tanks" in it.
        >
        > Has anyone seen this program?
        >
        > Cheers, Michael
        >
        >
        >



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      • tankbarrell
        ... was a conversion from a T55. The production was filmed here in the UK. Adrian Barrell
        Message 3 of 5 , Apr 10, 2005
          >The Sherman was an early M4A2, Sherman III, 75mm, VVSS and the 'Tiger'
          was a conversion from a T55. The production was filmed here in the UK.

          Adrian Barrell
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