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9645Re: [G104] El Alamein Sherman II [2 Attachments]

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  • GaDave
    Dec 4, 2013
      Hi Joe,

      Thanks so much for taking the time to give me your incites on the El Alamein Sherman. I've read all the information on the build I could find on the web and none had your information. 

      Thanks again.

      Best regards,

      David B. Manley, III, PC 
        Sent from my iPad 2
        Greater Atlanta Area 

      On Dec 4, 2013, at 10:43 AM, "Joe DeMarco" <snick13@...> wrote:


      Hi Dave,
      I consider decals & color drawings to be impressionism, not accurate historical reference.
      Would be curious to see a period photo that clearly shows T144895 painted on an M4A1.
      As far as the model goes, I have at least assembled the one in question, so have a few insights.
      The upper hull makes or breaks a Sherman kit (IMO) & I would give the Dragon a C. 
      The Tasca M4A1 DV is done with a little more finesse, but they flubbed the drivers' hatch area, so C +.
      Two companies provided the 200 or so early production M4A1s that the Brits got before El Alamein.
      Those made by Pressed Steel Car would have had riveted lower hulls as provided in the kits, & those made by Lima Locomotive would had welded lower hulls.
      Would guess they got slightly more Lima M4A1s which had rather complex tail lamp guards, while the PSCs do not appear to have been equipped with them at the time.
      The DML model's upper hull lifting rings are very nice recreations of what was typical of Lima Locomotive, although they seem a little large (1/32 scale?).
       I wanted to use Dragon's very nice riveted lower hull on their M4 DV, so did the M4A1 as a Lima, & substituted a welded lower hull from an old Dragon M4A1, since it has the appropriate "quarter round" contour where it joins to the belly plate.  
      The triangular shaped air scoops appear to have been a little more prevalent in period pix.
      I think they were fabricated by Chester Tank Depot, where most of the Alamein Shermans were processed.  
      I suspect the quarter round ones were done by Toledo TD.
      I used the quarter round ones because those kit parts are more accurate looking than the triangulars.  
      >The engine deck has depressions at the corners of the engine access doors. Dragon have parts to fill these. Which should I use? G14 or G13 or none or both? Frankly I'm confused. 
      Just flip a coin, since this is unlikely to be seen in any period photo.
      I filled in the rear ones, & left the front ones open.
      There's a very early Lima built M4A1 monument in France that has both front & rear open.
      Period pix show straight 75mm gun barrels.
      Suggest you add the rail shipping tie downs to the bogies for interest.
      Other suggestions...
      Mount the drivers' hatch handles toward the back of the hatches & on an angle.
      The lifting rings on the gun shield should be in the early position where they nearly touch the rotor shield.
      DML's rotor shield sits tight against the gun shield, whereas the real ones stood out a bit.
      The engine crank tool that DML provides comes with most of their Shermans.
      It represents a one piece extrusion that didn't appear in production until about mid 1943.
      The earlier ones were three piece affairs with square edges. Tasca provides a nice one.
      Optional, just for interest, I put a couple "pepperpot hole" blank off plates on either side of the engine access door in the rear.
      I've attached a couple pix.
      Enjoy the build,

      <DML Brit M4A1 DV RF.jpg>
      <DML Brit M4A1 DV RR.jpg>
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