Loading ...
Sorry, an error occurred while loading the content.

Militaire dienst

Expand Messages
  • Gerda
    Hallo allemaal, Friesland nog in een vacantie stemming? Het is erg stil op de list, dus hiermee eventjes een vraag: In de huwelijks bijlagen van onze oerpake
    Message 1 of 5 , Aug 5, 1999
    • 0 Attachment
      Hallo allemaal,

      Friesland nog in een vacantie stemming? Het is erg stil op de list,
      dus hiermee eventjes een vraag:

      In de huwelijks bijlagen van onze oerpake Take de Jong, geb 13 Juni
      1843, zit een verklaring van militaire dienst. Daaruit blijkt dat hij
      niet in militaire dienst is geweest omdat hij een lichaamsgebrek had.
      Niemand in de familie weet iets daarvan.

      Waar kunnen we informatie en documentatie m.b.t. de keuring voor
      militaire dienst vinden?

      Groetjes

      Gerda
    • Jan Rienstra
      Ja Gerda, het is inderdaad hier erg rustig. Ik had ook eens zo iets, de man in questie miste een oog, maar stond netjes op het blad van de nationale Militie,
      Message 2 of 5 , Aug 5, 1999
      • 0 Attachment
        Ja Gerda, het is inderdaad hier erg rustig.
        Ik had ook eens zo iets, de man in questie miste een oog, maar stond netjes
        op het blad van de nationale Militie, waarom het de ene keer wel gebeurd en
        de andere keer niet is dus de grote vraag.

        Groetjes,

        Jan Rienstra
        j.rienstra@...
        ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
        Van: Gerda <gpieterse@...>
        Aan: <Friesland-genealogy@onelist.com>
        Verzonden: donderdag 5 augustus 1999 14:50
        Onderwerp: [Friesland-genealogy] Militaire dienst


        > From: "Gerda" <gpieterse@...>
        >
        > Hallo allemaal,
        >
        > Friesland nog in een vacantie stemming? Het is erg stil op de list,
        > dus hiermee eventjes een vraag:
        >
        > In de huwelijks bijlagen van onze oerpake Take de Jong, geb 13 Juni
        > 1843, zit een verklaring van militaire dienst. Daaruit blijkt dat hij
        > niet in militaire dienst is geweest omdat hij een lichaamsgebrek had.
        > Niemand in de familie weet iets daarvan.
        >
        > Waar kunnen we informatie en documentatie m.b.t. de keuring voor
        > militaire dienst vinden?
        >
        > Groetjes
        >
        > Gerda
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ----------------------------
        >
        > How do you enter ONElist's WEEKLY DRAWING for $100?
        > By joining the FRIENDS & FAMILY program. For details, go to
        > http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html
        >
        > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
        >
      • Dorothy and Nick Dahm
        Greetings, I too have noticed on some of the marriage records, reference to military service. I notice that each person is assigned a number. Did they use
        Message 3 of 5 , Aug 5, 1999
        • 0 Attachment
          Greetings,
          I too have noticed on some of the marriage records, reference to military
          service. I notice that each person is assigned a number. Did they use some
          type of a lottery system, where if your number was drawn then you were
          obliged to go into the service or not, as the case may be?
          Dorothy Dahm
          Sorry for the English. With some help from my husband I am able to read
          most messages but can not write in Dutch.
          -----Original Message-----
          From: Jan Rienstra <j.rienstra@...>
          To: Friesland-genealogy@onelist.com <Friesland-genealogy@onelist.com>
          Date: Thursday, August 05, 1999 9:02 AM
          Subject: Re: [Friesland-genealogy] Militaire dienst


          >From: "Jan Rienstra" <j.rienstra@...>
          >
          >Ja Gerda, het is inderdaad hier erg rustig.
          >Ik had ook eens zo iets, de man in questie miste een oog, maar stond
          netjes
          >op het blad van de nationale Militie, waarom het de ene keer wel gebeurd en
          >de andere keer niet is dus de grote vraag.
          >
          >Groetjes,
          >
          >Jan Rienstra
          >j.rienstra@...
          >----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
          >Van: Gerda <gpieterse@...>
          >Aan: <Friesland-genealogy@onelist.com>
          >Verzonden: donderdag 5 augustus 1999 14:50
          >Onderwerp: [Friesland-genealogy] Militaire dienst
          >
          >
          >> From: "Gerda" <gpieterse@...>
          >>
          >> Hallo allemaal,
          >>
          >> Friesland nog in een vacantie stemming? Het is erg stil op de list,
          >> dus hiermee eventjes een vraag:
          >>
          >> In de huwelijks bijlagen van onze oerpake Take de Jong, geb 13 Juni
          >> 1843, zit een verklaring van militaire dienst. Daaruit blijkt dat hij
          >> niet in militaire dienst is geweest omdat hij een lichaamsgebrek had.
          >> Niemand in de familie weet iets daarvan.
          >>
          >> Waar kunnen we informatie en documentatie m.b.t. de keuring voor
          >> militaire dienst vinden?
          >>
          >> Groetjes
          >>
          >> Gerda
          >>
          >>
          >>
          >>
          >> --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ----------------------------
          >>
          >> How do you enter ONElist's WEEKLY DRAWING for $100?
          >> By joining the FRIENDS & FAMILY program. For details, go to
          >> http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html
          >>
          >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
          >>
          >
          >
          >--------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ----------------------------
          >
          >Congrats to our GROW TO GIVE winners, ZENtertainment & ROTInews!
          >http://www.onelist.com
          >Check out ONElist's latest program, FRIENDS & FAMILY. See homepage.
          >
          >------------------------------------------------------------------------
          >
        • Lex Bennink
          Hi Dorothy, Indeed everyone (males that is) got an enlisting number for his military service obligation. Nowadays obligation for military service no longer
          Message 4 of 5 , Aug 5, 1999
          • 0 Attachment
            Hi Dorothy,

            Indeed everyone (males that is) got an enlisting number for his military
            service obligation. Nowadays obligation for military service no longer
            exists in the Netherlands. The number was issued to a person in the year of
            his eightteenth birthday as he was medically checked out. Normally one was
            called for military service in the year after (so the year of ones
            nineteenth birthday) unless due to study or other special circumstances some
            postponing was granted on request. Everybody had to do service except those
            found unsuitable for service by the medical check. Sometimes there were to
            many men and only then some were put free from service by way of a lottery
            system or even a whole birthyear was set free (I think all men born in 1958
            didn't do service, because they got plenty soldiers in 1977).

            In former days a man had to show he had done his military service (in dutch:
            "voldaan aan de nationale militie") before he got permission to marry, for
            this reason it was mentioned in older marriage certificates. Nowadays (read
            after 1950) that is no longer necessary.

            I don't know the complete rules in former years, the above were the rules
            from approximately 1950 up untill the late 80's.

            Hope this helps you a little, Ciao from the Netherlands, Lex
            Bennink

            -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
            Van: Dorothy and Nick Dahm <dndahm@...>
            Aan: Friesland-genealogy@onelist.com <Friesland-genealogy@onelist.com>
            Datum: donderdag 5 augustus 1999 23:23
            Onderwerp: Re: [Friesland-genealogy] Militaire dienst


            >From: "Dorothy and Nick Dahm" <dndahm@...>
            >
            >Greetings,
            >I too have noticed on some of the marriage records, reference to military
            >service. I notice that each person is assigned a number. Did they use
            some
            >type of a lottery system, where if your number was drawn then you were
            >obliged to go into the service or not, as the case may be?
            >Dorothy Dahm
            >Sorry for the English. With some help from my husband I am able to read
            >most messages but can not write in Dutch.
            SNIP-----------------
          • Gerda
            Hallo Jan, Dorothy en Lex, Bedankt voor de inlichting. Het tijdperk dat op mijn vraag betrekking heeft is dus1861, te Sneek. Zou men een keuringslijst voor dit
            Message 5 of 5 , Aug 6, 1999
            • 0 Attachment
              Hallo Jan, Dorothy en Lex,

              Bedankt voor de inlichting.

              Het tijdperk dat op mijn vraag betrekking heeft is dus1861, te Sneek.

              Zou men een keuringslijst voor dit jaar, of deze periode, ergens
              kunnen inzien? Take de Jong was schipper van beroep, dus was het
              beslist geen ernstig lichaamsgebrek. Trouwens, dan had de familie dat
              wel geweten.

              Hij overleed in 1917, op 73 jarige leeftijd.

              Alvast bedankt

              Gerda














              ----- Original Message -----
              From: Lex Bennink <bennink@...>
              To: <Friesland-genealogy@onelist.com>
              Sent: Friday, August 06, 1999 12:23 AM
              Subject: Re: [Friesland-genealogy] Militaire dienst


              From: "Lex Bennink" <bennink@...>

              Hi Dorothy,

              Indeed everyone (males that is) got an enlisting number for his
              military
              service obligation. Nowadays obligation for military service no longer
              exists in the Netherlands. The number was issued to a person in the
              year of
              his eightteenth birthday as he was medically checked out. Normally one
              was
              called for military service in the year after (so the year of ones
              nineteenth birthday) unless due to study or other special
              circumstances some
              postponing was granted on request. Everybody had to do service except
              those
              found unsuitable for service by the medical check. Sometimes there
              were to
              many men and only then some were put free from service by way of a
              lottery
              system or even a whole birthyear was set free (I think all men born in
              1958
              didn't do service, because they got plenty soldiers in 1977).

              In former days a man had to show he had done his military service (in
              dutch:
              "voldaan aan de nationale militie") before he got permission to marry,
              for
              this reason it was mentioned in older marriage certificates. Nowadays
              (read
              after 1950) that is no longer necessary.

              I don't know the complete rules in former years, the above were the
              rules
              from approximately 1950 up untill the late 80's.

              Hope this helps you a little, Ciao from the Netherlands, Lex
              Bennink

              -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
              Van: Dorothy and Nick Dahm <dndahm@...>
              Aan: Friesland-genealogy@onelist.com <Friesland-genealogy@onelist.com>
              Datum: donderdag 5 augustus 1999 23:23
              Onderwerp: Re: [Friesland-genealogy] Militaire dienst


              >From: "Dorothy and Nick Dahm" <dndahm@...>
              >
              >Greetings,
              >I too have noticed on some of the marriage records, reference to
              military
              >service. I notice that each person is assigned a number. Did they
              use
              some
              >type of a lottery system, where if your number was drawn then you
              were
              >obliged to go into the service or not, as the case may be?
              >Dorothy Dahm
              >Sorry for the English. With some help from my husband I am able to
              read
              >most messages but can not write in Dutch.
              SNIP-----------------


              --------------------------- ONElist
              Sponsor ----------------------------

              Start a new ONElist list & you can WIN great prizes!
              For details on ONElist�s NEW FRIENDS & FAMILY program, go to
              http://www.onelist.com/info/onereachsplash3.html

              ----------------------------------------------------------------------
              --
            Your message has been successfully submitted and would be delivered to recipients shortly.