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  • MCTeichert@aol.com
    In my mother s family I was surprised to discover a Mr. Chirurgijn named Hieronymy Baltemewitz Dopkewitz alias Jeronimus Barthomaleus Dopschweijt, born circa
    Message 1 of 5 , Jul 6, 2000
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      In my mother's family I was surprised to discover a Mr. Chirurgijn named
      Hieronymy Baltemewitz Dopkewitz alias Jeronimus Barthomaleus Dopschweijt,
      born circa 1663. Supposedly his father Bartholomeus Dopschewijt was a student
      (Chirurgije?) at the Franekar Akademy circa 1650. I am told that many of the
      students at the Franekar Akademy at the time had 'Polish' names.

      I know that many Jews immigrated to the Netherlands from Poland during the
      1600s. Additionally many Jews used patronymic names. Dopkewitz could either
      be a patronym - Dobkiewicz, for Dobrislav or Dobrgniew, or a place name of
      Dabkowice etc. I strongly suspect Dopkewitz is a patronymic name. However one
      of Hieronymy's sons Jacobus Jeronimus used the surname 'Pool' meanig 'the
      Pole'.

      Taking into consideration the following:
      1) Immigrated from Poland during the 1600s.
      2) Dopkewitz is possbily a patronymic name.
      3) Hieronymy is Aramaic name, i.e. Biblical.
      4) Barthomaleus is Aramaic, i.e. Biblical, for 'son of Tomali'.
      5) 'Chirurgijn' is a 'stereotypical' Jewish profession.
      6) Hieronymy's son's weren't baptized/christened.
      7) Jews usually didn't record vital data (births, deaths etc.) with local
      officials, usually only at their local synagoue.

      I strongly suspect the Dopschewijt's were a Jewish family.

      Does anyone know anything about the history of Jews in Friesland? Were there
      Jewish synagoues in Franekar? Additional comments?

      Below is the information I have on Hieronymy, his family, and his father:

      1608 Hieronymy Baltemewitz Dopkewitz alias Dopschewijt, mr. chirurgijn,
      born circa 1663, living in Lippenhuizen and in Beetsterzwaag, died
      there between 1702 and 1709, aged 39 years to 46 years.
      He entered a notice of marriage in Kortezwaag on August 12, 1688, at
      the age of approximately 25 to
      1609 Liefke Pieters (aged approximately 20 years), born in Kortezwaag
      circa 1668, died in Beetsterzwaag after 1709, aged at least 41 years.
      From this marriage:
      - Bartele Jurjens Dopschewijt, born in Beetsterzwaag circa 1689.
      He was married in the year 1735, at the age of approximately 46
      to Frouckjen Bauckes (aged 25 years), born in the year 1710.
      - Pieter Hieronimus Dopschewijt, born in Beetsterzwaag circa 1691.
      - Jurjen Hieronimus Dopschewijt, born in Beetsterzwaag circa 1693.
      He was married circa 1720, at the age of approximately 27 to
      Sytske Jans (aged approximately 31 years), born circa 1689.
      - Jacobus Jeronimus Pool, born in Beetsterzwaag circa 1695, see
      804.
      - Martinus Hieronimus Dopschewijt, born in Beetsterzwaag circa
      1697.
      He entered a notice of marriage in Opeinde on January 30, 1728,
      at the age of approximately 31 to Sygerke Mellers (aged
      approximately 22 years), born in Zwartveen circa 1706.
      - Lutske Hieronimus Dopschewijt, born in Beetsterzwaag circa 1699.
      - Dieter Hieronimus Dopschewijt, born circa 1701, living in Heeg.
      He was married in Heeg on February 11, 1731, at the age of
      approximately 30 to Dirkjen Hoytes (aged approximately 24 years),
      born in Heeg circa 1707.

      3216 (?) Bartholomeus Dopschewijt, student te Franeker (ca.1650), coming
      from Dobkowice, Polen (?), born circa 1630.
      His son from an unknown woman:
      - Hieronymy Baltemewitz Dopkewitz alias Dopschewijt, born
      circa 1663, see 1608

      m v g,
      Matthias Teichert
    • Lieko Helmus
      Jewish history in Fryslan: Its interesting to go to the Ryksargyf website and search the Familienamen 1811 By inserting in the searchbox isr*. Then you get at
      Message 2 of 5 , Jul 6, 2000
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        Jewish history in Fryslan:
        Its interesting to go to the Ryksargyf website and search the Familienamen
        1811
        By inserting in the searchbox isr*. Then you get at least a certain
        indication of
        The Jewish population and its names in Fryslan at that time but always with
        the provision that
        An unknown number of people, also Jews, refused to let themselves register.
        I have in my “tree” under 198: Jeronimus Bartholomeus Dopschewijs,
        schoolmeester
        At Beetsterzwaag who was married to Liefien Pytters (199). They had a
        daughter
        Grietje Jeronimus D. who was married to Jetze Machiel Bosma, burried
        Augustinusga
        24 Jan 1813. So noticed this Grietje is not in your records. New or wrong?
        Anyway Dopschweijt is fascinating!
        Liekele Helmus, Hilversum

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      • Bernarda Kragten
        Hello Matthias, I have sent your question by e-mail to Michel Dalstra in Denmark. From a correspondance I had with him some time ago I know he has this
        Message 3 of 5 , Jul 6, 2000
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          Hello Matthias,

          I have sent your question by e-mail to Michel Dalstra in Denmark.
          From a correspondance I had with him some time ago I know he has this
          Hieronymus Balthemewitz Doschewijt in his genealogy too.

          The name Balthemewitz is a patronym, because the extension -witz means
          "son of". So Balthemewitz means son of Bartholomeus. Hieronymus (in
          Dutch Jeroen, in Frysland it maybe became Jurjen) Doschwijt was the
          son of Bartholomeus (in Frysland Bartele) Doschewijt. If it was
          originally Dopkewitz it might have been another patronym, it also can
          refer to the place he was coming from.

          In 1811 Jacobus Hieronymus took the name POOL in 1811.

          Bartele Jurjens (= Bartholomeus Hieronymus) Doschewijt, married to
          Frouckjen Bauckes (see your nrs. 1608/1609) had a son Jurjen Barteles,
          born ca. 1739, died 1.5.1812 in Zuiderdrachten, huisman (small
          farmer). Jurjen Barteles took in 1811 the name POESKE. I don't know if
          Poeske has somewhere the same meaning as Pool, maybe somtething like a
          "nice name" for Polish?

          This Bartele Jurjens Poeske is somehow connected to someone in our
          genealogy, namely Louwrens Sietses Keuning, married to Trijntje
          Everts. Bartele Jurjens and Louwrens and Trijntje and their five
          children lived in 1811 in the same house in Zuiderdrachten and their
          third child (born in 1806) was named Jurjen Louwrens Keuning, after
          Jurjen Barteles.

          Maybe Hieronymus Balthemewitz Doschewijt was jewish, but he also could
          be reformed or lutherian or even a catholic. And if he indeed was
          jewish, by marrying Liefke Pieters in 1668 their children were not
          jewish anymore.

          I don't think it is specially Jewish to use patronyms and also the
          profession of "chirurgijn" isn't. One of my ancestors was a "Chirugus"
          from Germany and he was a lutherian. As you might know, a
          "chirurgijn" is not the same as a medical doctor. In older times a
          chirurgijn was the specialist for the outside of the patient, the
          german word "Wundzartzt" points that really good out.

          I hope this helps you a little bit.

          Met vriendelijke groet,
          Bernarda Kragten.


          -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
          Van: MCTeichert@... <MCTeichert@...>
          Aan: Friesland-genealogy@egroups.com <Friesland-genealogy@egroups.com>
          Datum: donderdag 6 juli 2000 19:15
          Onderwerp: [Friesland-genealogy] Jeronimus Barthomaleus Dopschweijt



          In my mother's family I was surprised to discover a Mr. Chirurgijn
          named
          Hieronymy Baltemewitz Dopkewitz alias Jeronimus Barthomaleus
          Dopschweijt,
          born circa 1663. Supposedly his father Bartholomeus Dopschewijt was a
          student
          (Chirurgije?) at the Franekar Akademy circa 1650. I am told that many
          of the
          students at the Franekar Akademy at the time had 'Polish' names.

          I know that many Jews immigrated to the Netherlands from Poland during
          the
          1600s. Additionally many Jews used patronymic names. Dopkewitz could
          either
          be a patronym - Dobkiewicz, for Dobrislav or Dobrgniew, or a place
          name of
          Dabkowice etc. I strongly suspect Dopkewitz is a patronymic name.
          However one
          of Hieronymy's sons Jacobus Jeronimus used the surname 'Pool' meanig
          'the
          Pole'.

          Taking into consideration the following:
          1) Immigrated from Poland during the 1600s.
          2) Dopkewitz is possbily a patronymic name.
          3) Hieronymy is Aramaic name, i.e. Biblical.
          4) Barthomaleus is Aramaic, i.e. Biblical, for 'son of Tomali'.
          5) 'Chirurgijn' is a 'stereotypical' Jewish profession.
          6) Hieronymy's son's weren't baptized/christened.
          7) Jews usually didn't record vital data (births, deaths etc.) with
          local
          officials, usually only at their local synagoue.

          I strongly suspect the Dopschewijt's were a Jewish family.

          Does anyone know anything about the history of Jews in Friesland? Were
          there
          Jewish synagoues in Franekar? Additional comments?

          Below is the information I have on Hieronymy, his family, and his
          father:

          1608 Hieronymy Baltemewitz Dopkewitz alias Dopschewijt, mr.
          chirurgijn,
          born circa 1663, living in Lippenhuizen and in Beetsterzwaag,
          died
          there between 1702 and 1709, aged 39 years to 46 years.
          He entered a notice of marriage in Kortezwaag on August 12,
          1688, at
          the age of approximately 25 to
          1609 Liefke Pieters (aged approximately 20 years), born in Kortezwaag
          circa 1668, died in Beetsterzwaag after 1709, aged at least 41
          years.
          From this marriage:
          - Bartele Jurjens Dopschewijt, born in Beetsterzwaag circa
          1689.
          He was married in the year 1735, at the age of approximately
          46
          to Frouckjen Bauckes (aged 25 years), born in the year 1710.
          - Pieter Hieronimus Dopschewijt, born in Beetsterzwaag circa
          1691.
          - Jurjen Hieronimus Dopschewijt, born in Beetsterzwaag circa
          1693.
          He was married circa 1720, at the age of approximately 27 to
          Sytske Jans (aged approximately 31 years), born circa 1689.
          - Jacobus Jeronimus Pool, born in Beetsterzwaag circa 1695,
          see
          804.
          - Martinus Hieronimus Dopschewijt, born in Beetsterzwaag circa
          1697.
          He entered a notice of marriage in Opeinde on January 30,
          1728,
          at the age of approximately 31 to Sygerke Mellers (aged
          approximately 22 years), born in Zwartveen circa 1706.
          - Lutske Hieronimus Dopschewijt, born in Beetsterzwaag circa
          1699.
          - Dieter Hieronimus Dopschewijt, born circa 1701, living in
          Heeg.
          He was married in Heeg on February 11, 1731, at the age of
          approximately 30 to Dirkjen Hoytes (aged approximately 24
          years),
          born in Heeg circa 1707.

          3216 (?) Bartholomeus Dopschewijt, student te Franeker (ca.1650),
          coming
          from Dobkowice, Polen (?), born circa 1630.
          His son from an unknown woman:
          - Hieronymy Baltemewitz Dopkewitz alias Dopschewijt, born
          circa 1663, see 1608

          m v g,
          Matthias Teichert


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        • Lieko Helmus
          L.S., In my earlier reaction fortunately I put in a little “declaimer” New of wrong? Maybe both, maybe not. Anyway I have to correct Myself and/or add a
          Message 4 of 5 , Jul 7, 2000
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            L.S.,
            In my earlier reaction fortunately I put in a little “declaimer”
            New of wrong? Maybe both, maybe not. Anyway I have to correct
            Myself and/or add a few details.
            Grietje Jeronimus, married to Jetze Machiels Bosma, died 2 Aug 1812
            80 years old, daughter of Jeronimus Nutterd and Trijntje (See RA website).
            Jetze himself, a grave-digger, died 1 yr later 24 Jan 1813, 70 yrs old.
            My note, that she was a daughter of Jeronimus Bartholomeus Dopschewijs,
            Schoolmeester Beetsterzwaag, is very old and I don’t remember the source.
            If there is a relationship then there must be a gap of at least 1
            generation.
            Liekele Helmus, Hilversum


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          • j. van der meulen
            Er is wel eens een discussie in e-groups welke berichten groepsgroot en welke berichten aan de afzender/vtagensteller alleen gezonden moeten worden. Het
            Message 5 of 5 , Jul 8, 2000
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              Er is wel eens een discussie in e-groups welke berichten groepsgroot en
              welke berichten aan de afzender/vtagensteller alleen gezonden moeten worden.
              Het antwoord van Bernarda doet mij genieten en geeft me wat meer zicht op
              voor mij nieuwe zaken. Dus: niet te snel naar één op één antwoorden. (Moi
              Bernarda).
              Jan van der Meulen.

              ----- Original Message -----
              From: Bernarda Kragten <bkr@...>
              To: <Friesland-genealogy@egroups.com>
              Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 8:28 AM
              Subject: Re: [Friesland-genealogy] Jeronimus Barthomaleus Dopschweijt


              > Hello Matthias,
              >
              > I have sent your question by e-mail to Michel Dalstra in Denmark.
              > >From a correspondance I had with him some time ago I know he has this
              > Hieronymus Balthemewitz Doschewijt in his genealogy too.
              >
              > The name Balthemewitz is a patronym, because the extension -witz means
              > "son of". So Balthemewitz means son of Bartholomeus. Hieronymus (in
              > Dutch Jeroen, in Frysland it maybe became Jurjen) Doschwijt was the
              > son of Bartholomeus (in Frysland Bartele) Doschewijt. If it was
              > originally Dopkewitz it might have been another patronym, it also can
              > refer to the place he was coming from.
              >
              > In 1811 Jacobus Hieronymus took the name POOL in 1811.
              >
              > Bartele Jurjens (= Bartholomeus Hieronymus) Doschewijt, married to
              > Frouckjen Bauckes (see your nrs. 1608/1609) had a son Jurjen Barteles,
              > born ca. 1739, died 1.5.1812 in Zuiderdrachten, huisman (small
              > farmer). Jurjen Barteles took in 1811 the name POESKE. I don't know if
              > Poeske has somewhere the same meaning as Pool, maybe somtething like a
              > "nice name" for Polish?
              >
              > This Bartele Jurjens Poeske is somehow connected to someone in our
              > genealogy, namely Louwrens Sietses Keuning, married to Trijntje
              > Everts. Bartele Jurjens and Louwrens and Trijntje and their five
              > children lived in 1811 in the same house in Zuiderdrachten and their
              > third child (born in 1806) was named Jurjen Louwrens Keuning, after
              > Jurjen Barteles.
              >
              > Maybe Hieronymus Balthemewitz Doschewijt was jewish, but he also could
              > be reformed or lutherian or even a catholic. And if he indeed was
              > jewish, by marrying Liefke Pieters in 1668 their children were not
              > jewish anymore.
              >
              > I don't think it is specially Jewish to use patronyms and also the
              > profession of "chirurgijn" isn't. One of my ancestors was a "Chirugus"
              > from Germany and he was a lutherian. As you might know, a
              > "chirurgijn" is not the same as a medical doctor. In older times a
              > chirurgijn was the specialist for the outside of the patient, the
              > german word "Wundzartzt" points that really good out.
              >
              > I hope this helps you a little bit.
              >
              > Met vriendelijke groet,
              > Bernarda Kragten.
              >
              >
              > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
              > Van: MCTeichert@... <MCTeichert@...>
              > Aan: Friesland-genealogy@egroups.com <Friesland-genealogy@egroups.com>
              > Datum: donderdag 6 juli 2000 19:15
              > Onderwerp: [Friesland-genealogy] Jeronimus Barthomaleus Dopschweijt
              >
              >
              >
              > In my mother's family I was surprised to discover a Mr. Chirurgijn
              > named
              > Hieronymy Baltemewitz Dopkewitz alias Jeronimus Barthomaleus
              > Dopschweijt,
              > born circa 1663. Supposedly his father Bartholomeus Dopschewijt was a
              > student
              > (Chirurgije?) at the Franekar Akademy circa 1650. I am told that many
              > of the
              > students at the Franekar Akademy at the time had 'Polish' names.
              >
              > I know that many Jews immigrated to the Netherlands from Poland during
              > the
              > 1600s. Additionally many Jews used patronymic names. Dopkewitz could
              > either
              > be a patronym - Dobkiewicz, for Dobrislav or Dobrgniew, or a place
              > name of
              > Dabkowice etc. I strongly suspect Dopkewitz is a patronymic name.
              > However one
              > of Hieronymy's sons Jacobus Jeronimus used the surname 'Pool' meanig
              > 'the
              > Pole'.
              >
              > Taking into consideration the following:
              > 1) Immigrated from Poland during the 1600s.
              > 2) Dopkewitz is possbily a patronymic name.
              > 3) Hieronymy is Aramaic name, i.e. Biblical.
              > 4) Barthomaleus is Aramaic, i.e. Biblical, for 'son of Tomali'.
              > 5) 'Chirurgijn' is a 'stereotypical' Jewish profession.
              > 6) Hieronymy's son's weren't baptized/christened.
              > 7) Jews usually didn't record vital data (births, deaths etc.) with
              > local
              > officials, usually only at their local synagoue.
              >
              > I strongly suspect the Dopschewijt's were a Jewish family.
              >
              > Does anyone know anything about the history of Jews in Friesland? Were
              > there
              > Jewish synagoues in Franekar? Additional comments?
              >
              > Below is the information I have on Hieronymy, his family, and his
              > father:
              >
              > 1608 Hieronymy Baltemewitz Dopkewitz alias Dopschewijt, mr.
              > chirurgijn,
              > born circa 1663, living in Lippenhuizen and in Beetsterzwaag,
              > died
              > there between 1702 and 1709, aged 39 years to 46 years.
              > He entered a notice of marriage in Kortezwaag on August 12,
              > 1688, at
              > the age of approximately 25 to
              > 1609 Liefke Pieters (aged approximately 20 years), born in Kortezwaag
              > circa 1668, died in Beetsterzwaag after 1709, aged at least 41
              > years.
              > From this marriage:
              > - Bartele Jurjens Dopschewijt, born in Beetsterzwaag circa
              > 1689.
              > He was married in the year 1735, at the age of approximately
              > 46
              > to Frouckjen Bauckes (aged 25 years), born in the year 1710.
              > - Pieter Hieronimus Dopschewijt, born in Beetsterzwaag circa
              > 1691.
              > - Jurjen Hieronimus Dopschewijt, born in Beetsterzwaag circa
              > 1693.
              > He was married circa 1720, at the age of approximately 27 to
              > Sytske Jans (aged approximately 31 years), born circa 1689.
              > - Jacobus Jeronimus Pool, born in Beetsterzwaag circa 1695,
              > see
              > 804.
              > - Martinus Hieronimus Dopschewijt, born in Beetsterzwaag circa
              > 1697.
              > He entered a notice of marriage in Opeinde on January 30,
              > 1728,
              > at the age of approximately 31 to Sygerke Mellers (aged
              > approximately 22 years), born in Zwartveen circa 1706.
              > - Lutske Hieronimus Dopschewijt, born in Beetsterzwaag circa
              > 1699.
              > - Dieter Hieronimus Dopschewijt, born circa 1701, living in
              > Heeg.
              > He was married in Heeg on February 11, 1731, at the age of
              > approximately 30 to Dirkjen Hoytes (aged approximately 24
              > years),
              > born in Heeg circa 1707.
              >
              > 3216 (?) Bartholomeus Dopschewijt, student te Franeker (ca.1650),
              > coming
              > from Dobkowice, Polen (?), born circa 1630.
              > His son from an unknown woman:
              > - Hieronymy Baltemewitz Dopkewitz alias Dopschewijt, born
              > circa 1663, see 1608
              >
              > m v g,
              > Matthias Teichert
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