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51132Re: Jan Jans & Marijke Theunis

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  • Ross
    Dec 8, 2010
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      Thanks for the link Margeet :)


      --- In Friesland-genealogy@yahoogroups.com, "reyacta" <mhuisman2@...> wrote:
      >
      > Hoi,
      >
      > Op het Tresoar-forum zijn we hier ook mee bezig geweest,
      > 4 bladzijden lang,
      > en ondertussen veel aktes van familie nagekeken en andere documenten.
      > Uiteindelijk komen we er wel uit.
      >
      > groet Margreet
      > http://forum.tresoar.nl/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3460
      >
      >
      > --- In Friesland-genealogy@yahoogroups.com, Nynke van den Hooven <nynkevandenhooven@> wrote:
      > >
      > > Hi Tanya,
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > The marriage cert Kevin Kooiker found mentions the fact that Marijke Theunes
      > > is present at the marriage, giving consent for her son�s marriage. That
      > > would imply she died after 30 May 1811 (the marriage date of her son Anne)
      > > and so there should be a death cert. At the time of her son�s marriage she�s
      > > living in Mirns&Bakhuizen.
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > But the only cert I find is the following:
      > >
      > > Death cert Gaasterland, 1811
      > >
      > > Registration date 13 december 1811, page nr. 26
      > >
      > > Marijke Theunes, died 12 december 1811, 50 years, female
      > >
      > > Widow
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > It�s quite unlikely that �your� Marijke Theunis could have been 50 years old
      > > when she died�., that would have made her a very young mother of Anne� Did
      > > the informants give incorrect information or did the registering clerk make
      > > a mistake?
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > The reporters of her death stated the following:
      > >
      > > ��.died on 12 December 1811 at 11 pm Marijke Theunes, 50 years old, living
      > > in Mirns&Bakhuizen, widow of Aarnt Hendriks, daughter of the late Theunes
      > > Hendriks and of Marijke (which is crossed out) named Femmetie Wessels. �.�
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > This is the corresponding marriage:
      > >
      > > Gaasterland, huwelijken 1774
      > >
      > > Vermelding: Bevestiging huwelijk op 26 januari 1774 in Harich
      > >
      > > Man : Arend Hendricks afkomstig van Harich
      > >
      > > Vrouw : Marike Theunis afkomstig van Harich
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > I found the baptism of a daughter from this marriage: Harmke, born 13 May
      > > 1777 in Harich, baptised there on 1 June 1777.
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Marijke could have been a widow marrying for the second time:
      > >
      > > Gaasterland, huwelijken 1759
      > >
      > > Vermelding: Bevestiging huwelijk op 29 maart 1759 in Harich
      > >
      > > Man : Jan Jans afkomstig van Harich
      > >
      > > Vrouw : Marijke Theunis afkomstig van Harich
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > I this is indeed �your� Marijke Theunis she must have been at least 18 when
      > > she got married, in which case the informers of her death were app 20 years
      > > off regarding her age� In which case they may have not exactly known the
      > > proper patronyms of Marijke�s parents and/or her mother�s first name.
      > >
      > > This then seems like a nice couple to be Marijke�s parents:
      > >
      > > Gaasterland, huwelijken 1715
      > >
      > > Vermelding: Eerste proclamatie op 20 oktober 1715 in Wyckel
      > >
      > > Man : Teunis Femmes afkomstig van Wyckel
      > >
      > > Vrouw : Tjem Martens afkomstig van Nijemirdum
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > And the marriage:
      > >
      > > Gaasterland, huwelijken 1716
      > >
      > > Vermelding: Bevestiging huwelijk op 19 april 1716
      > >
      > > Man : Teunis Femmes afkomstig van Sondel of Wyckel
      > >
      > > Vrouw : Tjem Martens
      > >
      > > I found one child baptised in Oudemirdum in 1722, born in Nijemirdum.
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > But there was also a Teunis Hendriks from Wyckel who married Geertuyd Jans
      > > Slijchuys in 1725 en probably married for the second time in 1729 to Maria
      > > Harmens (the Marijke that was crossed out in Marijke Theunes� death
      > > cert�.?). And last but not least there was a Teunis Hendriks from Harich,
      > > who married Lijsbeth Althus in 1740.
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Marijke�s son Anne Jans had the family name �van de Boer� registered in
      > > 1811. He was living in Bakhuizen at the time. One Theunes Jans, living in
      > > Harich, also had the name �de Boer� registered.
      > >
      > > According to Theunes Jans� death cert he was a son of Jan Jans de Boer and
      > > Marijke Theunis, born 1762.
      > >
      > > And so was Anne Jans de Boer, according to his 1826 death cert. He was born
      > > appr 1771.
      > >
      > > Trui Jans however has the name Haarsma registered in 1811. Her father-in-law
      > > Jacob Lefferts Leffertma has the name Leffertsma registered for her three
      > > daughters with Leffert Jacobs.
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Well, this doens�t lead anywhere, I think�.
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Kind regards,
      > >
      > > Nynke van den Hooven
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > _____
      > >
      > > Van: Friesland-genealogy@yahoogroups.com
      > > [mailto:Friesland-genealogy@yahoogroups.com] Namens Ross
      > > Verzonden: vrijdag 3 december 2010 10:51
      > > Aan: Friesland-genealogy@yahoogroups.com
      > > Onderwerp: [Friesland-genealogy] Jan Jans & Marijke Theunis
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > I'm trying to find more information on two of my ancestors named Jan Jans
      > > and Marijke Theunis. I understand they were farmers in Harich, Friesland,
      > > Netherlands and have traced my family lineage up to them through their
      > > daughter Truike (Trui) Jans Haarsma.
      > >
      > > It would be great if anyone has any further information on them to share -
      > > any further children or especially Jans and Marijke's parent's names.
      > >
      > > Many thanks! Tanya
      > >
      >
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