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51095RE: [Friesland-genealogy] Re: Jan Jans & Marijke Theunis

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  • Nynke van den Hooven
    Dec 5, 2010
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      Hi Margreet,



      Even gekeken en ik begrijp nu in ieder geval waarom Trui de naam
      Haringsma/Haarsma gebruikte!



      Met vriendelijke groet

      Nynke van den Hooven



      _____

      Van: Friesland-genealogy@yahoogroups.com
      [mailto:Friesland-genealogy@yahoogroups.com] Namens reyacta
      Verzonden: zondag 5 december 2010 15:58
      Aan: Friesland-genealogy@yahoogroups.com
      Onderwerp: [Friesland-genealogy] Re: Jan Jans & Marijke Theunis





      Hoi,

      Op het Tresoar-forum zijn we hier ook mee bezig geweest,
      4 bladzijden lang,
      en ondertussen veel aktes van familie nagekeken en andere documenten.
      Uiteindelijk komen we er wel uit.

      groet Margreet
      http://forum.tresoar.nl/viewtopic.php?f=3
      <http://forum.tresoar.nl/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3460> &t=3460

      --- In Friesland-genealogy@yahoogroups.com
      <mailto:Friesland-genealogy%40yahoogroups.com> , Nynke van den Hooven
      <nynkevandenhooven@...> wrote:
      >
      > Hi Tanya,
      >
      >
      >
      > The marriage cert Kevin Kooiker found mentions the fact that Marijke
      Theunes
      > is present at the marriage, giving consent for her son�s marriage. That
      > would imply she died after 30 May 1811 (the marriage date of her son Anne)
      > and so there should be a death cert. At the time of her son�s marriage
      she�s
      > living in Mirns&Bakhuizen.
      >
      >
      >
      > But the only cert I find is the following:
      >
      > Death cert Gaasterland, 1811
      >
      > Registration date 13 december 1811, page nr. 26
      >
      > Marijke Theunes, died 12 december 1811, 50 years, female
      >
      > Widow
      >
      >
      >
      > It�s quite unlikely that �your� Marijke Theunis could have been 50
      years old
      > when she died�., that would have made her a very young mother of Anne�
      Did
      > the informants give incorrect information or did the registering clerk
      make
      > a mistake?
      >
      >
      >
      > The reporters of her death stated the following:
      >
      > ��.died on 12 December 1811 at 11 pm Marijke Theunes, 50 years old,
      living
      > in Mirns&Bakhuizen, widow of Aarnt Hendriks, daughter of the late Theunes
      > Hendriks and of Marijke (which is crossed out) named Femmetie Wessels.
      �.�
      >
      >
      >
      > This is the corresponding marriage:
      >
      > Gaasterland, huwelijken 1774
      >
      > Vermelding: Bevestiging huwelijk op 26 januari 1774 in Harich
      >
      > Man : Arend Hendricks afkomstig van Harich
      >
      > Vrouw : Marike Theunis afkomstig van Harich
      >
      >
      >
      > I found the baptism of a daughter from this marriage: Harmke, born 13 May
      > 1777 in Harich, baptised there on 1 June 1777.
      >
      >
      >
      > Marijke could have been a widow marrying for the second time:
      >
      > Gaasterland, huwelijken 1759
      >
      > Vermelding: Bevestiging huwelijk op 29 maart 1759 in Harich
      >
      > Man : Jan Jans afkomstig van Harich
      >
      > Vrouw : Marijke Theunis afkomstig van Harich
      >
      >
      >
      > I this is indeed �your� Marijke Theunis she must have been at least 18
      when
      > she got married, in which case the informers of her death were app 20
      years
      > off regarding her age� In which case they may have not exactly known the
      > proper patronyms of Marijke�s parents and/or her mother�s first name.
      >
      > This then seems like a nice couple to be Marijke�s parents:
      >
      > Gaasterland, huwelijken 1715
      >
      > Vermelding: Eerste proclamatie op 20 oktober 1715 in Wyckel
      >
      > Man : Teunis Femmes afkomstig van Wyckel
      >
      > Vrouw : Tjem Martens afkomstig van Nijemirdum
      >
      >
      >
      > And the marriage:
      >
      > Gaasterland, huwelijken 1716
      >
      > Vermelding: Bevestiging huwelijk op 19 april 1716
      >
      > Man : Teunis Femmes afkomstig van Sondel of Wyckel
      >
      > Vrouw : Tjem Martens
      >
      > I found one child baptised in Oudemirdum in 1722, born in Nijemirdum.
      >
      >
      >
      > But there was also a Teunis Hendriks from Wyckel who married Geertuyd Jans
      > Slijchuys in 1725 en probably married for the second time in 1729 to Maria
      > Harmens (the Marijke that was crossed out in Marijke Theunes� death
      > cert�.?). And last but not least there was a Teunis Hendriks from
      Harich,
      > who married Lijsbeth Althus in 1740.
      >
      >
      >
      > Marijke�s son Anne Jans had the family name �van de Boer� registered
      in
      > 1811. He was living in Bakhuizen at the time. One Theunes Jans, living in
      > Harich, also had the name �de Boer� registered.
      >
      > According to Theunes Jans� death cert he was a son of Jan Jans de Boer
      and
      > Marijke Theunis, born 1762.
      >
      > And so was Anne Jans de Boer, according to his 1826 death cert. He was
      born
      > appr 1771.
      >
      > Trui Jans however has the name Haarsma registered in 1811. Her
      father-in-law
      > Jacob Lefferts Leffertma has the name Leffertsma registered for her three
      > daughters with Leffert Jacobs.
      >
      >
      >
      > Well, this doens�t lead anywhere, I think�.
      >
      >
      >
      > Kind regards,
      >
      > Nynke van den Hooven
      >
      >
      >
      > _____
      >
      > Van: Friesland-genealogy@yahoogroups.com
      <mailto:Friesland-genealogy%40yahoogroups.com>
      > [mailto:Friesland-genealogy@yahoogroups.com
      <mailto:Friesland-genealogy%40yahoogroups.com> ] Namens Ross
      > Verzonden: vrijdag 3 december 2010 10:51
      > Aan: Friesland-genealogy@yahoogroups.com
      <mailto:Friesland-genealogy%40yahoogroups.com>
      > Onderwerp: [Friesland-genealogy] Jan Jans & Marijke Theunis
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > I'm trying to find more information on two of my ancestors named Jan Jans
      > and Marijke Theunis. I understand they were farmers in Harich, Friesland,
      > Netherlands and have traced my family lineage up to them through their
      > daughter Truike (Trui) Jans Haarsma.
      >
      > It would be great if anyone has any further information on them to share -
      > any further children or especially Jans and Marijke's parent's names.
      >
      > Many thanks! Tanya
      >





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