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1491Re: [Friesland-genealogy] Jeronimus Barthomaleus Dopschweijt

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  • j. van der meulen
    Jul 8, 2000
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      Er is wel eens een discussie in e-groups welke berichten groepsgroot en
      welke berichten aan de afzender/vtagensteller alleen gezonden moeten worden.
      Het antwoord van Bernarda doet mij genieten en geeft me wat meer zicht op
      voor mij nieuwe zaken. Dus: niet te snel naar één op één antwoorden. (Moi
      Bernarda).
      Jan van der Meulen.

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Bernarda Kragten <bkr@...>
      To: <Friesland-genealogy@egroups.com>
      Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 8:28 AM
      Subject: Re: [Friesland-genealogy] Jeronimus Barthomaleus Dopschweijt


      > Hello Matthias,
      >
      > I have sent your question by e-mail to Michel Dalstra in Denmark.
      > >From a correspondance I had with him some time ago I know he has this
      > Hieronymus Balthemewitz Doschewijt in his genealogy too.
      >
      > The name Balthemewitz is a patronym, because the extension -witz means
      > "son of". So Balthemewitz means son of Bartholomeus. Hieronymus (in
      > Dutch Jeroen, in Frysland it maybe became Jurjen) Doschwijt was the
      > son of Bartholomeus (in Frysland Bartele) Doschewijt. If it was
      > originally Dopkewitz it might have been another patronym, it also can
      > refer to the place he was coming from.
      >
      > In 1811 Jacobus Hieronymus took the name POOL in 1811.
      >
      > Bartele Jurjens (= Bartholomeus Hieronymus) Doschewijt, married to
      > Frouckjen Bauckes (see your nrs. 1608/1609) had a son Jurjen Barteles,
      > born ca. 1739, died 1.5.1812 in Zuiderdrachten, huisman (small
      > farmer). Jurjen Barteles took in 1811 the name POESKE. I don't know if
      > Poeske has somewhere the same meaning as Pool, maybe somtething like a
      > "nice name" for Polish?
      >
      > This Bartele Jurjens Poeske is somehow connected to someone in our
      > genealogy, namely Louwrens Sietses Keuning, married to Trijntje
      > Everts. Bartele Jurjens and Louwrens and Trijntje and their five
      > children lived in 1811 in the same house in Zuiderdrachten and their
      > third child (born in 1806) was named Jurjen Louwrens Keuning, after
      > Jurjen Barteles.
      >
      > Maybe Hieronymus Balthemewitz Doschewijt was jewish, but he also could
      > be reformed or lutherian or even a catholic. And if he indeed was
      > jewish, by marrying Liefke Pieters in 1668 their children were not
      > jewish anymore.
      >
      > I don't think it is specially Jewish to use patronyms and also the
      > profession of "chirurgijn" isn't. One of my ancestors was a "Chirugus"
      > from Germany and he was a lutherian. As you might know, a
      > "chirurgijn" is not the same as a medical doctor. In older times a
      > chirurgijn was the specialist for the outside of the patient, the
      > german word "Wundzartzt" points that really good out.
      >
      > I hope this helps you a little bit.
      >
      > Met vriendelijke groet,
      > Bernarda Kragten.
      >
      >
      > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
      > Van: MCTeichert@... <MCTeichert@...>
      > Aan: Friesland-genealogy@egroups.com <Friesland-genealogy@egroups.com>
      > Datum: donderdag 6 juli 2000 19:15
      > Onderwerp: [Friesland-genealogy] Jeronimus Barthomaleus Dopschweijt
      >
      >
      >
      > In my mother's family I was surprised to discover a Mr. Chirurgijn
      > named
      > Hieronymy Baltemewitz Dopkewitz alias Jeronimus Barthomaleus
      > Dopschweijt,
      > born circa 1663. Supposedly his father Bartholomeus Dopschewijt was a
      > student
      > (Chirurgije?) at the Franekar Akademy circa 1650. I am told that many
      > of the
      > students at the Franekar Akademy at the time had 'Polish' names.
      >
      > I know that many Jews immigrated to the Netherlands from Poland during
      > the
      > 1600s. Additionally many Jews used patronymic names. Dopkewitz could
      > either
      > be a patronym - Dobkiewicz, for Dobrislav or Dobrgniew, or a place
      > name of
      > Dabkowice etc. I strongly suspect Dopkewitz is a patronymic name.
      > However one
      > of Hieronymy's sons Jacobus Jeronimus used the surname 'Pool' meanig
      > 'the
      > Pole'.
      >
      > Taking into consideration the following:
      > 1) Immigrated from Poland during the 1600s.
      > 2) Dopkewitz is possbily a patronymic name.
      > 3) Hieronymy is Aramaic name, i.e. Biblical.
      > 4) Barthomaleus is Aramaic, i.e. Biblical, for 'son of Tomali'.
      > 5) 'Chirurgijn' is a 'stereotypical' Jewish profession.
      > 6) Hieronymy's son's weren't baptized/christened.
      > 7) Jews usually didn't record vital data (births, deaths etc.) with
      > local
      > officials, usually only at their local synagoue.
      >
      > I strongly suspect the Dopschewijt's were a Jewish family.
      >
      > Does anyone know anything about the history of Jews in Friesland? Were
      > there
      > Jewish synagoues in Franekar? Additional comments?
      >
      > Below is the information I have on Hieronymy, his family, and his
      > father:
      >
      > 1608 Hieronymy Baltemewitz Dopkewitz alias Dopschewijt, mr.
      > chirurgijn,
      > born circa 1663, living in Lippenhuizen and in Beetsterzwaag,
      > died
      > there between 1702 and 1709, aged 39 years to 46 years.
      > He entered a notice of marriage in Kortezwaag on August 12,
      > 1688, at
      > the age of approximately 25 to
      > 1609 Liefke Pieters (aged approximately 20 years), born in Kortezwaag
      > circa 1668, died in Beetsterzwaag after 1709, aged at least 41
      > years.
      > From this marriage:
      > - Bartele Jurjens Dopschewijt, born in Beetsterzwaag circa
      > 1689.
      > He was married in the year 1735, at the age of approximately
      > 46
      > to Frouckjen Bauckes (aged 25 years), born in the year 1710.
      > - Pieter Hieronimus Dopschewijt, born in Beetsterzwaag circa
      > 1691.
      > - Jurjen Hieronimus Dopschewijt, born in Beetsterzwaag circa
      > 1693.
      > He was married circa 1720, at the age of approximately 27 to
      > Sytske Jans (aged approximately 31 years), born circa 1689.
      > - Jacobus Jeronimus Pool, born in Beetsterzwaag circa 1695,
      > see
      > 804.
      > - Martinus Hieronimus Dopschewijt, born in Beetsterzwaag circa
      > 1697.
      > He entered a notice of marriage in Opeinde on January 30,
      > 1728,
      > at the age of approximately 31 to Sygerke Mellers (aged
      > approximately 22 years), born in Zwartveen circa 1706.
      > - Lutske Hieronimus Dopschewijt, born in Beetsterzwaag circa
      > 1699.
      > - Dieter Hieronimus Dopschewijt, born circa 1701, living in
      > Heeg.
      > He was married in Heeg on February 11, 1731, at the age of
      > approximately 30 to Dirkjen Hoytes (aged approximately 24
      > years),
      > born in Heeg circa 1707.
      >
      > 3216 (?) Bartholomeus Dopschewijt, student te Franeker (ca.1650),
      > coming
      > from Dobkowice, Polen (?), born circa 1630.
      > His son from an unknown woman:
      > - Hieronymy Baltemewitz Dopkewitz alias Dopschewijt, born
      > circa 1663, see 1608
      >
      > m v g,
      > Matthias Teichert
      >
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