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  • Linda Peloquin
    Mar 19, 2011
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      Hi Paul,
      This being San Giuseppe & having OD'ed on zeppola & sfogliatelle (actually for sfogliatelle I don't need a feast day for an excuse) all day, it's time for some mail.  
      Finding this marriage you're looking for will really be a piece of luck in connecting with someone who shares this couple and has a marriage date for you because the FHL films for Itri only cover the period of 1809 - 1865 and the marriage you're looking for is one year too late.  Then too, to be optomistic, you could find that you have the year wrong and ithe marriage was earlier than 1866.
      It's so frustrating not to have all the surviving records on film.   Still, it could be worse.  After collaborating with a descendant of Ercole Cavicchi, the brother-in-law of my husband's paternal grandfather, and finally finding just where in Italy the Cavicchi"s came from, we are now totally dead in the water because absolutely NOTHING is filmed for Cento, Ferrara, Emilia-Romagna.  Zip, zilch, nada, zero - N.O.T.H.I.N.G!  So, yes, we're all frustrated that only 1809 - 1865 records got filmed for Itri but it could be so much worse like Cento.
      Irregardless, you will undoubtedly be looking at the pre 1865 records.  One thing I found useful when I look at marriages that occurred close to the 1809 filming cut-off is to get the films for the processetti and locate the couple's file.  The processetti were the files of documents that the couple had to present prior to marriage and can contain such treasures as BMD records for the bridal couples' parents or whoever it is giving the bride away if her parents are dead and military records for the groom.
      The BMD in the processetti can help you, in some instances, to bridge the gap between 1809 and the catasto of 1754.  The processetti for the earliest of your Capotosto marriages might help shed some light on which of those 10 Capotosto families in the catasto link to your family line.
      You might find the photos at this sight interesting.  Itri in WW II during the Campaign for Rome in 1944 was smack dab between the Allied & Nazi lines both of whom were lobbing artillery shells back and forth at one another.  I've read that about 75% of the town sustained severe damage.  It must have been heart wrenching & terrifying for the people here who to learn of the destruction back home and to be worrying about the safety of  family left behind.    http://wwiiarchives.net/servlet/photo/2298/40
      Be sure to check out our group's members Paul & Louise Shapcott's "Tre Cancelle" site, too.  I don't know if they still have the narrative up on the rehab of the old farm house they bought and now live in in Itri.  Hope they do.  It was entertaining and enlightening as to how laid back real Italians are.
      You should also plan a trip to RI for July.  The Knightsville section of the City of Cranston is Itri in RI and just like back in Itri, La Festa della Madonna della Civita is held every July on the weekend closest to the actual feast day of 21 July.  Gridlock in Knightsville...don't fight it, join the party!
      I only have one Capotosto in my line.  Catarina Capotosto b. abt. 1754 - haven't found her yet in the catasto - d. 7 May 1819; wife of Pompeo Cardi b. ? d. bef. 1809.  Catarina & Pompeo would be my 3rd great grandparents. 
      Yeah, my father's family was big.  My grandfather Giuseppe Fornaro was b. 20 Sep 1865 and my grandmother Rachele Cannella was b. 27 Jan 1869.  Both were long gone before my parents ever met never mind married. 
      Catarina is in Rachele's maternal line.

      --- On Mon, 3/14/11, paul.capotosto <paul.capotosto@...> wrote:

      From: paul.capotosto <paul.capotosto@...>
      Subject: [FraDiavolo] Itrani Origins
      To: FraDiavolo@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 5:36 PM

      Dear Itrani Descendents,
      I hope you are all well and that this group is still active in research and discussion on our common village of origin. As you can see I am a new member, quite late to the party it seems, but not too late I trust?
      My name is Paul Capotosto, I reside in New York and have been told my family came from Itri. As a member of ancestry.com I have uncovered more than I ever expected on the history and lineage of the Capotosto name. It gave me many answers but also created many questions, and I sincerely anticipate that some of the members of this group can be of assistance.
      I began sporadic research about 5 years ago through the Ellis Island website, and as time permitted I found more sites and uncovered quite a bit of material. I have to say it can seem overwhelming but I truly enjoy the discovery aspect.

      So here is my question, do any of you have a connection to Raffaele Capotosto b.1845'ish married to Maria Antonia Di Fabrici (Fabrizio, Fabritius) in Itri, Sep 1866?

      I have read that you may have the 1754 Catasta for Itri, sorry I did not learn of this group sooner or I would have joined you in the purchase, I just purchased a copy that I must translate; I did however locate about 10 Capotosto families there at the time. I can't seem to link them up to my family tree as of yet. But I believe the answer is out there and one day I will hopefully find it.

      I would like to thank all of you in advance for any help you may offer and if I can help you please don't hesitate to ask.

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