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  • FateRPG@yahoogroups.com
    The following FateRPG poll is now closed. Here are the final results: POLL QUESTION: Where did you first learn about Fate? CHOICES AND RESULTS - The Fudge
    Message 1 of 6 , Mar 19, 2004
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      The following FateRPG poll is now closed. Here are the
      final results:


      POLL QUESTION: Where did you first learn about Fate?

      CHOICES AND RESULTS
      - The Fudge Mailing List, 14 votes, 32.56%
      - RPG.net Forum Discussion, 8 votes, 18.60%
      - Other Web Forum Discussion (The Forge, etc), 10 votes, 23.26%
      - Demo at a Convention, 0 votes, 0.00%
      - Introduced by a GM/Friend, 1 votes, 2.33%
      - I just happen to know the authors, 5 votes, 11.63%
      - Other, 5 votes, 11.63%

      INDIVIDUAL VOTES
      - The Fudge Mailing List
      - wilmanric@...
      - ograf@...
      - decastro3@...
      - hduyker@...
      - faterpg@...
      - starscape@...
      - cid_sgt@...
      - starshield@...
      - JD@...
      - rslau@...
      - dicework@...
      - vendalianights@...
      - jendave@...
      - monademe@...
      - RPG.net Forum Discussion
      - ciridian2000@...
      - chris.crouch@...
      - oscarwd@...
      - Gavken@...
      - sws99dsc@...
      - gspencer@...
      - AdrianFPrice@...
      - clementk7@...
      - Other Web Forum Discussion (The Forge, etc)
      - adam@...
      - morgangilbert2001@...
      - gokonex@...
      - blake_hutchins@...
      - elmago79@...
      - daimonicflea@...
      - dev@...
      - rednaxel@...
      - homeydont@...
      - xandarr@...
      - Demo at a Convention
      - Introduced by a GM/Friend
      - gerion@...
      - I just happen to know the authors
      - boymonster@...
      - demiurge@...
      - iago@...
      - zenith@...
      - arsglacialis@...
      - Other
      - cjh_cleveland@...
      - delveg@...
      - forge2000_au@...
      - zuhar@...
      - j0vin@...


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    • FateRPG@yahoogroups.com
      The following FateRPG poll is now closed. Here are the final results: POLL QUESTION: With Grey Ghost Games, the publisher of Fudge, making its press release
      Message 2 of 6 , Mar 27, 2004
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        The following FateRPG poll is now closed. Here are the
        final results:


        POLL QUESTION: With Grey Ghost Games, the publisher of Fudge,
        making its press release about the decision to take
        Fudge in an Open Gaming License (OGL) or similar
        direction, one of our primary motivators to produce
        a non-Fudge version of Fate dissolves pretty
        rapidly. How do you think we should respond to
        this new direction for Fudge?

        CHOICES AND RESULTS
        - Keep going with Fudgeless as the main form of Fate, continue with secondary Fudge support., 13 votes, 21.67%
        - Return to a philosophy of Fudgey Fate as the main form, but offer up Fudgeless as a secondary option., 28 votes, 46.67%
        - Just ditch Fudgeless, and make Fudge the only thing. With Fudge going OGL (or something like it), there's no great gain., 16 votes, 26.67%
        - Drop Fudge support entirely. It's great that Fudge may go OGL, but it's too little too late., 2 votes, 3.33%
        - Nice list of choices, but none of them fit my perspective. I'll vote this one and then email the list explaining my alternate perspective., 1 votes, 1.67%

        INDIVIDUAL VOTES
        - Keep going with Fudgeless as the main form of Fate, continue with secondary Fudge support.
        - darkwood@...
        - krijger@...
        - demiurge@...
        - durrell@...
        - coal378@...
        - dicework@...
        - soulstone69@...
        - homeydont@...
        - zenith@...
        - sws99dsc@...
        - adam@...
        - arsglacialis@...
        - galdar@...
        - Return to a philosophy of Fudgey Fate as the main form, but offer up Fudgeless as a secondary option.
        - AdrianFPrice@...
        - LWW@...
        - danielansell@...
        - andre.ledeist@...
        - decastro3@...
        - rowan.crawford@...
        - clementk7@...
        - manveru@...
        - alex.case@...
        - lamboz@...
        - mkellis@...
        - krs@...
        - thumpmouse@...
        - fist@...
        - chris.crouch@...
        - faterpg@...
        - rhialto@...
        - zuhar@...
        - trey_palmer@...
        - hduyker@...
        - JD@...
        - gerion007@...
        - gspencer@...
        - jeq@...
        - spamme@...
        - tehl_dashwood@...
        - Gavken@...
        - gary_forbis@...
        - Just ditch Fudgeless, and make Fudge the only thing. With Fudge going OGL (or something like it), there's no great gain.
        - rstehwien@...
        - lwl@...
        - blake_hutchins@...
        - ograf@...
        - paladinjammer@...
        - michael.shaffer@...
        - jendave@...
        - jepowers@...
        - gruumsh@...
        - fitheach2003@...
        - caladas2001@...
        - shoujo_rat@...
        - daimonicflea@...
        - cjh_cleveland@...
        - dan@...
        - rjsjtj@...
        - Drop Fudge support entirely. It's great that Fudge may go OGL, but it's too little too late.
        - chris@...
        - oscarwd@...
        - Nice list of choices, but none of them fit my perspective. I'll vote this one and then email the list explaining my alternate perspective.
        - rslau@...


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      • Iago
        So the poll s concluded, with 60 total votes. Given that the vast number of list members were gained through Fate s association with Fudge, the distribution of
        Message 3 of 6 , Mar 27, 2004
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          So the poll's concluded, with 60 total votes. Given that
          the vast number of list members were gained through Fate's
          association with Fudge, the distribution of responses in
          favor of Fudge should not, in retrospect, be all that
          surprising. :)

          Now that it's concluded, I'd like to share my thoughts.

          Ann Dupuis has confirmed over on the Fudge legal list that
          she's going to take Fudge into OGL-land. This in all
          likelihood means OGL for Fate as well, as it'll just make
          the cross-pollenation easier. (I'm still a fan of Creative
          Commons, and I plan to release some of my smaller games,
          like Pace and the to-be-renamed Texorami, under a CC
          license, to see if anything's made of that -- but for
          Fate, our path is pretty clear.)

          The advent of an OGL Fudge also probably means that we'll
          roll back to our original, Fudge-derived adjective ladder,
          rather than the new one we were contemplating. It sounds
          better to us, and it means a minimum of translation issue
          with Fudge vs not-Fudge explorations of Fate.

          Since the Fudgeless edition is in active revision and
          reasonably far along, we will probably continue trucking
          on to conclusion in order to put that idea out there.

          On the heels of Fudge _formally_ going OGL, we'll get Fate
          out there in an OGL form as well.

          And that's when the fun particularly starts.

          As someone noted, the difference between Fudgey and
          Fudgeless Fate is actually pretty small -- sure, the dice
          spreads and behavior will be different, but that's
          practically inevitable with any change of a root mechanic.
          The Fateness still pervades the bulk of the work.

          The view we are most likely to encourage, I think, is that
          Fate is a "layer" that goes well with a number of systems.
          So you won't just see a Fudgeless or Fudgey Fate -- you'll
          get both. And it may not just stop there -- there's a very
          real possibility of a Fate d20 (by which I mean OGL d20,
          not d20 License), and possibly others that strike our
          fancy. Furthermore, with the main portion of Fate as an
          OGL property, there's little stopping other people from
          "Fate-ifying" another OGL system, too. It's my hope that
          this will move Fate from simply being a system, to being
          a way of looking at games in general.

          With Fate an OGL property, I'm also hopeful other people
          will pick up the ball and run with it commercially and
          personally, producing all manner of Fate material that
          doesn't depend on Rob and myself finding the free time
          to put it together.

          All in all, I think we're looking at an exciting time over
          the next year. I hope you'll all stick around for the
          ride.

          On Sat, 27 Mar 2004, FateRPG@yahoogroups.com wrote:

          > The following FateRPG poll is now closed. Here are the
          > final results:
          >
          > POLL QUESTION: With Grey Ghost Games, the publisher of
          > Fudge, making its press release about the decision to take
          > Fudge in an Open Gaming License (OGL) or similar
          > direction, one of our primary motivators to produce a
          > non-Fudge version of Fate dissolves pretty rapidly. How do
          > you think we should respond to this new direction for
          > Fudge?
          >
          > CHOICES AND RESULTS - Keep going with Fudgeless as the
          > main form of Fate,
          > continue with secondary Fudge support., 13 votes, 21.67%
          > - Return to a philosophy of Fudgey Fate as the main form,
          > but offer up Fudgeless as a secondary option., 28 votes,
          > 46.67%
          > - Just ditch Fudgeless, and make Fudge the only thing.
          > With Fudge going OGL (or something like it), there's no
          > great gain., 16 votes, 26.67%
          > - Drop Fudge support entirely. It's great that Fudge may
          > go OGL, but it's too little too late., 2 votes, 3.33%
          > - Nice list of choices, but none of them fit my
          > perspective. I'll vote this one and then email the list
          > explaining my alternate perspective., 1 votes, 1.67%

          --
          Fred Hicks * "Curse you iago and your fast fingers!" - Rob Donoghue
          Co-Author of Fate - Managing Editor of Fudge Factor - The 'fan' in fanatic
          Fate RPG * http://www.faterpg.com/ Fudge Factor * http://www.fudgefactor.org/
          Plink * http://www.rainlikely.com/ Jim Butcher * http://www.jim-butcher.com/
        • FateRPG@yahoogroups.com
          The following FateRPG poll is now closed. Here are the final results: POLL QUESTION: As much as I like the Yahoo! Groups features and such, I ve been finding
          Message 4 of 6 , Jun 22, 2006
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            The following FateRPG poll is now closed. Here are the
            final results:


            POLL QUESTION: As much as I like the Yahoo! Groups features and such, I've been finding myself, lately, desiring a more full-featured web forum for Evil Hat, which would combine the roles of the FateRPG group, the Dresden Files RPG group, and provide a place for non-Fate (e.g., Don't Rest Your Head) as well as Fate products from Evil Hat to be discussed. The question becomes what to do with the existing Yahoo groups!

            CHOICES AND RESULTS
            - Keep the Yahoo! Group exactly as-is. Two locations with the same purpose don't make a big issue., 7 votes, 13.21%
            - You should commit; lock down the Yahoo! Group and focus on the web forum. I'll see you there!, 34 votes, 64.15%
            - Yahoo! Group or not, you won't be seeing me on a web forum. Can't stand 'em., 9 votes, 16.98%
            - Other (please clarify to the list!), 3 votes, 5.66%



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          • Kurt Rauscher
            So, based on the poll, locking down the yahoo group? Just emails, right? It s still useful for relevant file hosting. -- Kurt Rauscher -:-
            Message 5 of 6 , Jun 22, 2006
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              So, based on the poll, locking down the yahoo group? Just emails,
              right? It's still useful for relevant file hosting.

              --
              Kurt Rauscher -:- krauscher@...
              "Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil, but write it all down!"
            • Fred Hicks
              ... Based on the poll, that d be reasonably accurate. :) Buuuut, I d really like to make use of the vanilla software for forums, and I share Mike s requirement
              Message 6 of 6 , Jun 22, 2006
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                On Thu, 22 Jun 2006, Kurt Rauscher wrote:

                > So, based on the poll, locking down the yahoo group? Just
                > emails, right? It's still useful for relevant file
                > hosting.

                Based on the poll, that'd be reasonably accurate. :)

                Buuuut, I'd really like to make use of the vanilla
                software for forums, and I share Mike's requirement that
                email notifications be a part of that. They aren't yet,
                but will be in the "soon to be released" 1.0 version of
                the software. So I'm not in a rush to implement, just yet.

                --
                Fred Hicks * "Curse you iago and your fast fingers!" - Rob Donoghue
                Co-Author of Fate - Author of Pace - Jim-Butcher.Com Webmaster - Weirdo
                The Dresden Files Roleplaying Game - Coming in 2006
                http://www.dresdenfilesrpg.com/
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