Re: [Fantasy_Books] I think your definition of justice is wrong, Sidharam.
- Justice can sometimes be "Carthage."
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From: Matthew Graybosch
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 1:23 PM
Subject: [Fantasy_Books] I think your definition of justice is wrong, Sidharam.
On Sun, 04 Nov 2001 21:06:54 -0600, Sidharam Drevekenin typed:
Sidharam, I absolutely MUST
# Justice is not doing unto others what they did unto you. Justice
# loving your neighbour no matter what.
So you would still "love your neighbor" if he raped your daughter,
beheaded her, dumped her body in the woods and kept her head for a
# Justice is turning the other cheak like one of the most prolific
# religions in the world claims.
As Christianity claims? Sorry, but I do not think that it is just to
reward cruelty with kindness. Would you call it just if I repaid
kindness with cruelty? If not, then why do you claim that we should
reward cruelty with kindness?
Here's the definition of Justice on which I operate. I'm quoting
from page 276 of "Objectivism: The Philosophy of Ayn Rand", by Dr.
"Justice is the virtue of judging men's character and conduct
objectively and of acting accordingly, granting to each man that
which he deserves."
Operating under this principle requires that one grant love only to
the good, not to the evil. To turn the other cheek to evil, to love
one's enemies, is a travesty of justice, for doing so places
evildoers (like Osama bin Laden) on the same level as those who do
no harm to others.
"Sartre was mistaken: Hell is not other people. Hell is maintaining
other people's code."
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- Wench wrote:
> <<<It's the Americans who've been incited into war and are acting like savage vandals. With their "We'll never negotiate with terrorists" approach.>>>It saddens me that people think that. But just like Al said, I think we
> Each Halloween the local mall where I live opens up to host an evening of Trick or Treating for children in the area, in order to provide a safe, simple place where they can go with their parents. This year, that "safe" haven...of no political consequence and entirely an event specialized for children only...almost wasn't. Not because of fear of what might happen, but because of what almost did happen. Several members of Bin Laden's little group decided they were going to visit the mall armed with enough ammunition to enjoy a nice slaughter in the name of their cause. So gee...I wonder how far negotiations with these people would have gone as they went about their deliberat plan to slaughter children, if they'd managed to follow through instead of being caught almost before it was too late.
should stray off politics (I've been SO good in not replying to the
flames thrown at me and the counter arguments, not because I didn't have
anything to say, but because I promised not to continue rather early in
So... Terry Goodkind... Whatd'you all think of that guy, eh? :)
"Most demoniacal of all shocks is that of the abysmally unexpected and
- H. P. Lovecraft.