On Jul 13, 2010, at 2:54 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:

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> On 05 Jul 2010, at 17:00, Ismail Atalay wrote:
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>> I would say that consciousness is bound to a specific physical
>> implementation. Otherwise it would be impossible to explain why a
>> dog, an ape or a daulphin does not have consciousness but a human
>> being (with its special brain) has. I also do not believe the
>> universes are splitting, so yes we all are going to die.
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> A dog is not conscious. You really mean that a dog or an ape cannot
> experience pain? We can torture them without moral guilt?

Some people, like me, "really" think that you can torture a dog without doing anything morally wrong or anything deserving of guilt. (Though I don't know why one would want to.)

Argument by "I don't believe anyone really holds that position, including you" is kind of silly. You should accept that people disagree with you, and try to give criticism of their views other than incredulity.

-- Elliot Temple
http://curi.us/

--- In Fabric-of-Reality@yahoogroups.com, Elliot Temple <curi@...> wrote:

> As for modulat inteligence,
> this once again can be explained by the fact
> that some knowledge requires other knowledge to create it.

Modular intelligence is not a symptom, it is the theory that specific
bits of neural wiring are needed for specific tasks. That is completely different to the observation that some kinds of knowledge are pre requisites for others