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Re: Popperian Take on Free Will

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  • UltraEmpathy@aol.com
    ... Consciousness is related to perception, sentience, emotions and feeling, not intelligence. A primitive creature that perceive the quale red is
    Message 1 of 256 , May 31 3:04 PM
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      johnkclark@... writes:

      > The exact same thing would be true for consciousness if it
      > were not related to intelligence. Fortunately for us it is.

      Consciousness is related to perception, sentience, emotions and feeling,
      not intelligence. A primitive creature that perceive the quale red is
      conscious, but not necessarily intelligent.





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    • Peter D
      ... FW implies unpredictability, but unpredictability alone does not entail FW
      Message 256 of 256 , Jun 15, 2010
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        --- In Fabric-of-Reality@yahoogroups.com, John Clark <johnkclark@...> wrote:
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        > On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 9:24 PM, m.a. <marty684@...> wrote:
        >
        > >
        > > Is it permissible to inject a small quote from Seth Lloyd?
        > >
        > > "...the nature of our choices when we exercise free will is a close analog
        > > of the halting problem; once we set a train of thought in motion, we do not
        > > know whether it will lead anywhere at all. Even if it does lead somewhere,
        > > we don't know where that somewhere is until we get there." "Programming
        > > the Universe" p.36
        > >
        >
        > I agree with that completely, thus it would only take a few lines of code to
        > give the computer you are using right now free will; just write a program to
        > find the first even number greater than 2 that is not the sum of 2 prime
        > numbers greater than 2 and then stop. You could write it in 5 minutes, but
        > what will your computer do now? Nobody knows, all you can do it watch it and
        > see.


        FW implies unpredictability, but unpredictability alone does
        not entail FW
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