Re: does determinism follow from special relativity?
- --- In Fabric-of-Reality@yahoogroups.com, "Charles Goodwin"
>It is obvious that we don't.
> [mailto:Fabric-of-Reality@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter D Jones
> >> Why? The "WF appears to collapse" can be explained by using first
> >> person indeterminacy during self-superposition.
> > It's an additional assumption that we can't see superpositions.
> How come? I thought it was reasonably obvious that we can't (or
> don't)......or is it???
- --- Dave Wave <empiricism101@...> wrote:
> > In a word, No. Ever read about the Quantum ZenoThe uncertainty principle (UP) is a consequence of quantum physics. Quantum
> > Effect?
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_Zeno_effect
> > Could it be that Nature in its dynamics has a
> > simple rule that any new
> > state can not be contradictory to those states that
> > preseeded it?
> of course. I say it must, since objects maintain
> But this then tosses Heisenberg's principle of
> uncertainty out the window. There's no possibility
> that a block of wood will turn into a diamond, so
> there must not be any uncertainty in the wood block's
> quantum particles.
physics states that physical reality is much larger than the world we see
around us and contains, among other things, many parallel universes each of
which approximately obey the laws of classical physics: this larger reality
is called the multiverse. The existence of the multiverse isn't just a
theoretical fancy though. there are experiments called single particle
interference experiments in which the results of experiments on a particle
can only be explained if it went down many different paths simultaneously,
see Fabric of Reality Chapter 2.
In most experiments there are many different possible outcomes each of
which happens in some universe after the experiment. Quantum physics makes
predictions about the probability of each of the outcomes. A block of wood
turning into diamond has very low probability according to quantum physics.
So quantum physics including the UP predicts that it is irrational to
expect a block of wood to turn into a diamond and lo and behold, the real
world conforms to this prediction.
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