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Re: [FT897] HRD V5 ending today

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  • richieworld2001
    Steve: Thanks for the heads up and for thinking ahead. The computer I plan on trying to remote my FT-897D to just crashed the other day. I have a copy of the
    Message 1 of 33 , Sep 4, 2013
      Thanks for the heads up and for thinking ahead. The computer I plan
      on trying to remote my FT-897D to just crashed the other day. I have a
      copy of the program running on my laptop but I use that copy just for the
      log. Now I have a copy on a disk that I should be able to install on a
      new computer when I get it. I don't know how much I would use the whole
      program, if I found it useful then I don't mind paying for it. Never
      tried to remote control a radio as I just got one that I could.

      Thanks Again
      73 Richie KB2ZPB

      On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 12:29:59 -0000 "Steve" <m0mvb@...> writes:
      > The new owners of HRD have gone back on their word of always
      > providing HRD V5 for free, from today only V6 will be available at a
      > cost of $100 Can I suggest if anyone wants to have option of the
      > last free HRD they download the file now and write to disk, so much
      > for the new owners saying they would not stop V5, so just download
      > and save the last free one V5.24.38
      > available from my website
      > my FT-897d
      > http://www.m0mvb.co.uk/free-stuff.html
      > Steve M0MVB
      > ------------------------------------
      > Yahoo! Groups Links

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    • Dave AA6YQ
      The DXLab Suite has been free since it was first released in 2000, and will always be free. The backlog of reported but uncorrected defects across the entire
      Message 33 of 33 , Sep 9, 2013

        The DXLab Suite has been free since it was first released in 2000, and will always be free. The backlog of reported but uncorrected defects across the entire DXLab Suite is currently zero, and over the past 13 years has rarely exceeded 2. Reported defects are generally corrected within 24 hours.


        There are many factors that can produce applications with significant backlogs of reported but uncorrected defects. Monolithic (as opposed to modular) architectures, suboptimal abstractions, no consideration given to testability and diagnosability, poor choice of programming language, waterfall (as opposed to iterative) development, poor testing practices, no automated update distribution, and bad judgment are typically responsible.




                  Dave, AA6YQ


        From: FT897@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FT897@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Krell
        Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 3:36 PM
        To: FT897@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: RE: [FT897] Re: HRD V5 ending today



        The manufacturers of those nifty hardware products get to charge for
        their product but the software developers have to give theirs away for free?

        Hmm, ..., how is that equitable?

        Hardware product manufacturers LOVE free software.
        They would have to pay license fees, increasing the cost to the consumer.

        But, in the end, free software can actually ruin a product
        if the hardware product manufacturer is not careful.

        I've managed product developments and developed software over the years
        in which I've used a variety of software products == custom made, free,

        The problem that we always had with the free software was bugs.
        And no one to call. So, we needed to have a development staff,
        who most of the time sat around doing nothing until a bug appeared.

        With licensed S/W, ala MS, we always purchased a healthy support contract,
        but were given a special contact. The key was that we got fixes or
        within a day.

        Here's how the free software works:

        if you build your app around free software, then you have to make your
        available for free. None of those nifty product manufacturers have done

        But, if you do all the software from scratch, it's your software.
        Especially if you only give away the executable but you retain the source

        The developer of HRD did just that.
        It's his property.
        If you don't like that, don't use the product.

        When that free software that you switch to hits an error and erases years
        worth of frequency data, you have no one to call.

        I generally purchase supported software these days.
        I like having someone to call and bitch to when I have a problem and
        that has a financial obligation to help me and to fix the problem.

        Pick your own poison.

        Bruce Krell

        -----Original Message-----
        From: FT897@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FT897@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
        Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 7:54 PM
        To: FT897@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [FT897] Re: HRD V5 ending today

        I don't believe HRD was ever an open project, but just given away by the
        original author who eventually sold it. If you want to use a free(dom)
        and open project look at FLdigi and FLrig. Perhaps not as polished as
        HRD, but its open and you can tweak the source code as you see fit.
        Personally, it works for me.

        Regarding the previous poster, Linus created the kernel and took the
        rest of the OS from the Free Software Foundation that hadn't yet
        completed their kernel, and this is why the FSF would prefer Linux be
        called GNU/Linux giving credit to both parties. Also Linus might not
        code directly on the kernel, but he is heavily involved in managing the
        development as paid by his employer. If not for the GPL and Free
        Software Foundation we wouldn't have the flood of great and affordable
        electronic devices that we do today which run GNU/Linux, e.g. TVs, ebook
        readers, tablets, Android phones, wireless routers.... nor the myriad of
        useful internet services that have as their backbone GNU/Linux.
        Microsoft's operating system and business tactics might have secured
        their place on desktops for the time being, but their proprietary OS is
        losing on other platforms for which we consumers benefit. And the
        additional beauty of the GPL and free software is that projects live on
        beyond the life of their creator as many people including companies can
        take the source code and continue to improve upon it for others to use
        indefinitely. Myself personally, I prefer to support free software
        projects and use them over proprietary software systems. Not to say I
        agree totally with the FSF and Richard Stallman, but he makes very good
        points on how proprietary software and some of the companies behind them
        harm their users.

        Since the discussion got pulled in this direction I thought some
        elaboration would be helpful. But we're all adults, so give your money
        to whom you choose and allow others to do the same. And you can consult
        the Book of Knowledge to learn all about these topics further if you choose.

        Jason - N6WBL

        On 9/8/2013 2:44 PM, Alex Netherton wrote:
        > Dr. Bruce. Forgive me if I took your answer as disrespect. Perhaps I was
        > having a bad day. Perhaps I saw your answer as pedantic and/or
        > condescending. The statement about the "entitlement mentality" was all
        > of the above, plus being a political code word, or as we say, a "dog
        > whistle". I did find that remark offensive. I also believe you did not
        > make it.
        > However, software is seen by some as a service rather than a product,
        > such as the Free Software Foundation and others. Some see a software
        > that was developed and distributed in the free environment suddenly
        > becoming not only not free but rather expensive as a sort of betrayal,
        > especially perhaps those who had helped in writing code, testing and
        > other activities for which they expected nor received any recompense.
        > Plus, I never got years of it for free, as I just returned to the hobby
        > a few months ago.
        > I see it as the monetizing of everything, and I think I am going to stop
        > talking about this on this forum or any other. Too often too many think
        > that somebody has to make money off of everything, and if someone is
        > not, then they should be. I worry for the world.
        > Anyway, everybody enjoy, and I found a group on Yahoo that is for Hams
        > to help each other, maybe taking some off topic posts off groups like
        > this; it is hamradiohelpgroup.
        > 73
        > KC4BO
        > Alex Netherton
        > http://blueridgediscovery.com


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