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  • kkimmarsh
    good morning fellow fiddlers, please find 5 new photoes in the new photo section titled all points of the compass.the first 4, are views of my base board which
    Message 1 of 9 , Jun 16, 2008
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      good morning fellow fiddlers,
      please find 5 new photoes in the new photo section titled all points
      of the compass.the first 4, are views of my base board which is
      80%complete.
      about 6 weeks ago i took my best torture tool[my power saw]and
      radically altered it all[it was giving me the ].the result is a base
      board that can be viewed from 4 sides[4 points or the compass],and
      that can be added to in the future.the blank sections in the water are
      the positions of the barges.all other pieces are stored off the base
      board.the folage is yet to be added.
      the last picture is of Rozell bay here in Sydney.i get most of my
      referance from here.the tropics is a long way away.there is so much
      stuff in there that you could spend a lifetime modelling it all.
      anyway cheers kim.
    • William Uffelman
      Very cool! Thanks for sharing. Bill Uffelman Las Veags NV kkimmarsh wrote: good morning fellow fiddlers, please find 5 new photoes
      Message 2 of 9 , Jun 16, 2008
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        Very cool! Thanks for sharing.
         
        Bill Uffelman
        Las Veags NV

        kkimmarsh <kkimmarsh@...> wrote:
        good morning fellow fiddlers,
        please find 5 new photoes in the new photo section titled all points
        of the compass.the first 4, are views of my base board which is
        80%complete.
        about 6 weeks ago i took my best torture tool[my power saw]and
        radically altered it all[it was giving me the ].the result is a base
        board that can be viewed from 4 sides[4 points or the compass],and
        that can be added to in the future.the blank sections in the water are
        the positions of the barges.all other pieces are stored off the base
        board.the folage is yet to be added.
        the last picture is of Rozell bay here in Sydney.i get most of my
        referance from here.the tropics is a long way away.there is so much
        stuff in there that you could spend a lifetime modelling it all.
        anyway cheers kim.


      • hunslett
        While I realize this isn t 2 gauge a friend is looking for plans for the Sand Hutton Brake Van. Yes I know about the Mark Smithers book but that is out of
        Message 3 of 9 , Jun 16, 2008
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          While I realize this isn't 2' gauge a friend is looking for plans for
          the Sand Hutton Brake Van. Yes I know about the Mark Smithers book but
          that is out of his price range at the moment.
          Thanks,
          Vincent Bradley, Hidden Valley
        • STEPHEN BENNETT
          There are no plans for the brake van in Smithers book. The only drawing I can think of, is by Roy Link and appeared in a special Sand Hutton issue of the
          Message 4 of 9 , Jun 16, 2008
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            There are no plans for the brake van in Smithers book.  The only drawing I can think of, is by Roy Link and appeared in a special Sand Hutton issue of the Narrow Gauge Railway Societies magazine.  Sorry, cant give you the number at the moment as I cant find my copy.  Perhaps Roy will be able to provide the details, so you can search for it?
             
            Steve Bennett
             
             
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            From: hunslett
            Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:32 AM
            Subject: [FS32NGModelrail] Re: Sand Hutton Brake Van

            While I realize this isn't 2' gauge a friend is looking for plans for
            the Sand Hutton Brake Van. Yes I know about the Mark Smithers book but
            that is out of his price range at the moment.
            Thanks,
            Vincent Bradley, Hidden Valley


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          • Roy C Link
            A revised and enlarged edition of the Sand Hutton book (by Ken Hartley) is in preparation. My drawings originally only showed the side elevation and verandah
            Message 5 of 9 , Jun 17, 2008
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              A revised and enlarged edition of the Sand Hutton book (by Ken Hartley) is in preparation.

              My drawings originally only showed the side elevation and verandah end, but now I have the information to make a drawing of the opposite end as well.

              Currently I am waiting for the author who is revising the work to complete his text, so no publishing date as yet.

              An article on making a half inch scale Sand Hutton brakevan appeared in NG&IRM REVIEW issue 69.

              Roy C Link


              www.narrowgaugeandindustrial.com


              On 17 Jun 2008, at 02:59, STEPHEN BENNETT wrote:


              There are no plans for the brake van in Smithers book.  The only drawing I can think of, is by Roy Link and appeared in a special Sand Hutton issue of the Narrow Gauge Railway Societies magazine.  Sorry, cant give you the number at the moment as I cant find my copy.  Perhaps Roy will be able to provide the details, so you can search for it?
               
              Steve Bennett
               
               
              ----- Original Message -----
              From: hunslett
              Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:32 AM
              Subject: [FS32NGModelrail] Re: Sand Hutton Brake Van

              While I realize this isn't 2' gauge a friend is looking for plans for 
              the Sand Hutton Brake Van. Yes I know about the Mark Smithers book but 
              that is out of his price range at the moment.
              Thanks,
              Vincent Bradley, Hidden Valley




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            • Vincent Bradley
              Thanks Roy, Yes I have the issue 69 and very much enjoyed the article. I am looking forward to the new book. The person who needs the plan has a 7.5 gauge
              Message 6 of 9 , Jun 17, 2008
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                Thanks Roy ,

                Yes I have the issue 69 and very much enjoyed the article.  I am looking forward to the new book.  The person who needs the plan has a 7.5” gauge Hunslet steam engine and is building a train to follow.

                 

                Vincent Bradley - Management Representative

                Faxon Machining, Inc.

                (513)851-4644

                (513)674-2547 desk

                (513)702-6076 cell

                 


                From: FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Roy C Link
                Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 3:45 AM
                To: FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: Re: [FS32NGModelrail] Re: Sand Hutton Brake Van

                 

                A revised and enlarged edition of the Sand Hutton book (by Ken Hartley) is in preparation.

                 

                My drawings originally only showed the side elevation and verandah end, but now I have the information to make a drawing of the opposite end as well.

                 

                Currently I am waiting for the author who is revising the work to complete his text, so no publishing date as yet.

                 

                An article on making a half inch scale Sand Hutton brakevan appeared in NG&IRM REVIEW issue 69.

                 

                Roy C Link

                 

                www.narrowgaugeandindustrial.com

                 

                On 17 Jun 2008, at 02:59, STEPHEN BENNETT wrote:



                 

                There are no plans for the brake van in Smithers book. The only drawing I can think of, is by Roy Link and appeared in a special Sand Hutton issue of the Narrow Gauge Railway Societies magazine. Sorry, cant give you the number at the moment as I cant find my copy. Perhaps Roy will be able to provide the details, so you can search for it?

                Steve Bennett

                ----- Original Message -----

                From: hunslett

                Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:32 AM

                Subject: [FS32NGModelrail] Re: Sand Hutton Brake Van

                 

                While I realize this isn't 2' gauge a friend is looking for plans for
                the Sand Hutton Brake Van. Yes I know about the Mark Smithers book but
                that is out of his price range at the moment.
                Thanks,
                Vincent Bradley, Hidden Valley

                 


                 

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              • kim marsh
                hi bill how is your modelling going ,your are right my latest modul at last is becoming good fun.i have been trying to think of a name for it.i was toying
                Message 7 of 9 , Jun 27, 2008
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                  hi bill how is your modelling going ,your are right my latest modul at last is becoming good fun.i have been trying to think of a name for it.i was toying with-'the bone yard'but the live in critic thought it was crap.another option was 4 points-um? i suppose it is  different to build a modul without a name.it seems that a lot names come first then model.what i will do is to collect a lot a pick one next year.
                  daniel you are very good with your soft wear.the big window is great,i really like the movable middle panel.how big are the panes.with a window like that,it should come with the glazing.i usually hate windows.,i get glue all over the glazing.maybe the glazing should be laser cut also?i have included a picture of a 1-32 standard gauge signal box that was laser cut about 14 years ago.a mate of mine did the maths,we had to use a maths calculator such was or soft wear ,with the corners you can either sand the miters or clad them to hide them.this is what i did with the signal box.i suggest to go to a specialist ply wood supplier and look at there range.you should find large sheets -expensive but a lot cheaper than model shops .have you ever thought of chemical etching.
                  anyway cheers kim.
                   
                  ----- Original Message -----
                  Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:36 AM
                  Subject: Re: [FS32NGModelrail] all points of the compass

                  Very cool! Thanks for sharing.
                   
                  Bill Uffelman
                  Las Veags NV

                  kkimmarsh <kkimmarsh@unwired. com.au> wrote:
                  good morning fellow fiddlers,
                  please find 5 new photoes in the new photo section titled all points
                  of the compass.the first 4, are views of my base board which is
                  80%complete.
                  about 6 weeks ago i took my best torture tool[my power saw]and
                  radically altered it all[it was giving me the ].the result is a base
                  board that can be viewed from 4 sides[4 points or the compass],and
                  that can be added to in the future.the blank sections in the water are
                  the positions of the barges.all other pieces are stored off the base
                  board.the folage is yet to be added.
                  the last picture is of Rozell bay here in Sydney.i get most of my
                  referance from here.the tropics is a long way away.there is so much
                  stuff in there that you could spend a lifetime modelling it all.
                  anyway cheers kim.




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                • daniel caso
                  Kim:       Thank you.       It would be nice to see a photo of your signal!       Of course, if I would choose for plywood I would buy in from a
                  Message 8 of 9 , Jun 27, 2008
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                    Kim:
                          Thank you.
                          It would be nice to see a photo of your signal!
                          Of course, if I would choose for plywood I would buy in from a specialist, but my doubts are because, as it was already mentioned here, then you get vertical grain in an horizontal plank and I don't like that at all. I'll keep looking for the right method of getting wood grain in MDF. Of course That don't mean that I'll never use ply. It is one of the possibilities.
                    I am also thinking in a combination of both: the inner walls made from MDF but with marks for a correct positioning of real wood pieces that would be glued on the MDF as in a puzzle for the exterior.
                           Yes, I've been thinking for years about etchings, read lots about it and in a very primitive way I etched even a disc for making a pin-hole camera from and old discarded one.
                    But to make a serious try means many costs that at the moment I can't afford. I am sure I'll be working with it some day. Also resin casting and even white metal casting are in my list. But all what is happening now started as a casual opportunity I've never planed.
                    I am very interested about getting good models from cheap materials and methods and one of the things I am looking for is someone who can cut with a CNC cutter some tries in card and also -yes- paper.
                    About the glazing for the windows, the idea is that it will be the same as in the door -see the photo in my album-. That is in the middle of a MDF sandwich. My doubt is about the 2mm thick frame that it would generate. For 1:32 it would represent a 70mm thick window frame. I will see how nice I can get the ones I already have and if not satisfied will look for an alternative. If the sandwich method works, cutting  the glass would be very easy using as a guide the rest material when the window frame is removed from the plate.
                    One thing that made easier for me cutting lots of small glass panels from translucent styrene was de "Duplicutter" from NWSL. A wonderful tool. Pity that I don't have it any more. I suppose I will build one for myself once my trains room is installed.
                    Many things are going through my head now. I even asked myself if could be a possibility to form a kind of gild with some of us combining our skill and producing things in common in a way that could integrate what each of us is able to do. Also I am thinking about the possibility to make a lot of CAD drawings that each of us could get by e-mail and let it cut locally. This would not be a business at all but would give all of us the opportunity of getting lots of things done for minimal costs.
                    Something like that would create many opportunities and always remain the chance of selling outside the group what we made for ourselves.
                    I don't know. My head seems a circus now and it seems that it will take a couple of weeks to settle. Any way all this is already also in your minds, so let's see how our fellows react.

                                 With regards

                                                     Daniel


                    --- On Fri, 6/27/08, kim marsh <kkimmarsh@...> wrote:
                    From: kim marsh <kkimmarsh@...>
                    Subject: Re: [FS32NGModelrail] all points of the compass
                    To: FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com
                    Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 1:06 PM

                    hi bill how is your modelling going ,your are right my latest modul at last is becoming good fun.i have been trying to think of a name for it.i was toying with-'the bone yard'but the live in critic thought it was crap.another option was 4 points-um? i suppose it is  different to build a modul without a name.it seems that a lot names come first then model.what i will do is to collect a lot a pick one next year.
                    daniel you are very good with your soft wear.the big window is great,i really like the movable middle panel.how big are the panes.with a window like that,it should come with the glazing.i usually hate windows.,i get glue all over the glazing.maybe the glazing should be laser cut also?i have included a picture of a 1-32 standard gauge signal box that was laser cut about 14 years ago.a mate of mine did the maths,we had to use a maths calculator such was or soft wear ,with the corners you can either sand the miters or clad them to hide them.this is what i did with the signal box.i suggest to go to a specialist ply wood supplier and look at there range.you should find large sheets -expensive but a lot cheaper than model shops .have you ever thought of chemical etching.
                    anyway cheers kim.
                     
                    ----- Original Message -----
                    Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:36 AM
                    Subject: Re: [FS32NGModelrail] all points of the compass

                    Very cool! Thanks for sharing.
                     
                    Bill Uffelman
                    Las Veags NV

                    kkimmarsh <kkimmarsh@unwired. com.au> wrote:
                    good morning fellow fiddlers,
                    please find 5 new photoes in the new photo section titled all points
                    of the compass.the first 4, are views of my base board which is
                    80%complete.
                    about 6 weeks ago i took my best torture tool[my power saw]and
                    radically altered it all[it was giving me the ].the result is a base
                    board that can be viewed from 4 sides[4 points or the compass],and
                    that can be added to in the future.the blank sections in the water are
                    the positions of the barges.all other pieces are stored off the base
                    board.the folage is yet to be added.
                    the last picture is of Rozell bay here in Sydney.i get most of my
                    referance from here.the tropics is a long way away.there is so much
                    stuff in there that you could spend a lifetime modelling it all.
                    anyway cheers kim.




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                  • kim marsh
                    goodmorning daniel no worries it is really important i feel to be able to take ones time .when you have time check out the ply suppliers.if remember right it
                    Message 9 of 9 , Jun 27, 2008
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                      goodmorning daniel no worries it is really important i feel to be able to take ones time .when you have time check out the ply suppliers.if remember  right it was aircraft ply-beautiful, i wish i still had some
                      my attitude to buying componants is that i use what is around without getting involved.most of the stuff i build is one off but that is not to say that i wont buy good quality componants.
                      you said that one of your south american modelling mates is coming to australia in october.if i can be of help please fell free to pass on my e-mail adress here in sydney.
                      seeing that you and tom [the first two who jump to mind]are babbling in techniques that are commercially orintated perhape a more accesable wed site would be of advantage.i looked at the 7-8 scale and milatery sites and they all beatifully produced sites.this is something that is really beyond me technically.it is funny that the 1-35 and 1-32 site according to yahoo has a really large membership but still is one of the most obscure.
                      anyway all the best , kim.
                      ----- Original Message -----
                      Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 12:17 AM
                      Subject: Re: [FS32NGModelrail] all points of the compass

                      Kim:
                            Thank you.
                            It would be nice to see a photo of your signal!
                            Of course, if I would choose for plywood I would buy in from a specialist, but my doubts are because, as it was already mentioned here, then you get vertical grain in an horizontal plank and I don't like that at all. I'll keep looking for the right method of getting wood grain in MDF. Of course That don't mean that I'll never use ply. It is one of the possibilities.
                      I am also thinking in a combination of both: the inner walls made from MDF but with marks for a correct positioning of real wood pieces that would be glued on the MDF as in a puzzle for the exterior.
                             Yes, I've been thinking for years about etchings, read lots about it and in a very primitive way I etched even a disc for making a pin-hole camera from and old discarded one.
                      But to make a serious try means many costs that at the moment I can't afford. I am sure I'll be working with it some day. Also resin casting and even white metal casting are in my list. But all what is happening now started as a casual opportunity I've never planed.
                      I am very interested about getting good models from cheap materials and methods and one of the things I am looking for is someone who can cut with a CNC cutter some tries in card and also -yes- paper.
                      About the glazing for the windows, the idea is that it will be the same as in the door -see the photo in my album-. That is in the middle of a MDF sandwich. My doubt is about the 2mm thick frame that it would generate. For 1:32 it would represent a 70mm thick window frame. I will see how nice I can get the ones I already have and if not satisfied will look for an alternative. If the sandwich method works, cutting  the glass would be very easy using as a guide the rest material when the window frame is removed from the plate.
                      One thing that made easier for me cutting lots of small glass panels from translucent styrene was de "Duplicutter" from NWSL. A wonderful tool. Pity that I don't have it any more. I suppose I will build one for myself once my trains room is installed.
                      Many things are going through my head now. I even asked myself if could be a possibility to form a kind of gild with some of us combining our skill and producing things in common in a way that could integrate what each of us is able to do. Also I am thinking about the possibility to make a lot of CAD drawings that each of us could get by e-mail and let it cut locally. This would not be a business at all but would give all of us the opportunity of getting lots of things done for minimal costs.
                      Something like that would create many opportunities and always remain the chance of selling outside the group what we made for ourselves.
                      I don't know. My head seems a circus now and it seems that it will take a couple of weeks to settle. Any way all this is already also in your minds, so let's see how our fellows react.

                                   With regards

                                                       Daniel


                      --- On Fri, 6/27/08, kim marsh <kkimmarsh@unwired. com.au> wrote:
                      From: kim marsh <kkimmarsh@unwired. com.au>
                      Subject: Re: [FS32NGModelrail] all points of the compass
                      To: FS32NGModelrail@ yahoogroups. com
                      Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 1:06 PM

                      hi bill how is your modelling going ,your are right my latest modul at last is becoming good fun.i have been trying to think of a name for it.i was toying with-'the bone yard'but the live in critic thought it was crap.another option was 4 points-um? i suppose it is  different to build a modul without a name.it seems that a lot names come first then model.what i will do is to collect a lot a pick one next year.
                      daniel you are very good with your soft wear.the big window is great,i really like the movable middle panel.how big are the panes.with a window like that,it should come with the glazing.i usually hate windows.,i get glue all over the glazing.maybe the glazing should be laser cut also?i have included a picture of a 1-32 standard gauge signal box that was laser cut about 14 years ago.a mate of mine did the maths,we had to use a maths calculator such was or soft wear ,with the corners you can either sand the miters or clad them to hide them.this is what i did with the signal box.i suggest to go to a specialist ply wood supplier and look at there range.you should find large sheets -expensive but a lot cheaper than model shops .have you ever thought of chemical etching.
                      anyway cheers kim.
                       
                      ----- Original Message -----
                      Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:36 AM
                      Subject: Re: [FS32NGModelrail] all points of the compass

                      Very cool! Thanks for sharing.
                       
                      Bill Uffelman
                      Las Veags NV

                      kkimmarsh <kkimmarsh@unwired. com.au> wrote:
                      good morning fellow fiddlers,
                      please find 5 new photoes in the new photo section titled all points
                      of the compass.the first 4, are views of my base board which is
                      80%complete.
                      about 6 weeks ago i took my best torture tool[my power saw]and
                      radically altered it all[it was giving me the ].the result is a base
                      board that can be viewed from 4 sides[4 points or the compass],and
                      that can be added to in the future.the blank sections in the water are
                      the positions of the barges.all other pieces are stored off the base
                      board.the folage is yet to be added.
                      the last picture is of Rozell bay here in Sydney.i get most of my
                      referance from here.the tropics is a long way away.there is so much
                      stuff in there that you could spend a lifetime modelling it all.
                      anyway cheers kim.




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