Re: [FS32NGModelrail] Re: Skip
- Sure. As you probably know I have some little experience at designing kits. More than all your design is exactly the same idea as ]Henrik´s big scale ones. May be you could visit his site and take a look.Those keys help, indeed, a lot at locating pieces in their very right place, but since it is about complicated (at least two different radius) curves it is quiet difficult to make them stay properly in place after locating for soldering.Anyway, if you think it is useless or not needed, just skip it. And of course you may also remove the drawings from your album. My only intention was to make things easier for you and your future clients.DanielVan: Brian <rallim56@...>
Verzonden: maandag 27 mei 16:39 2013
Onderwerp: RE: [FS32NGModelrail] Re: Skip
It may come in handy in some applications, but what you need to understand Daniel, that what I have designed had key ways so the parts lock into each other making it easier to put together and also ensures it gets in the right place, the only parts on this skip are the angle irons which don't have any tags.Brian
Qld. Aust.From: FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of daniel caso
Sent: Tuesday, 28 May 2013 12:31 AM
Subject: Re: [FS32NGModelrail] Re: SkipBrianI hope you don't mind I've added the drawings to your album. It seemed the natural polace to me. But if you want me to remove the just let me know.The parts are designed to be selfpositioning.The underframe plate will hold the difficult to solder vertical part of the C profile in place.Sinds laser cuttings have a bit tapered walls, the advice would be to use the 'bigger'side at the edge being soldered. Once done the half soldered frame must be turn upsidedown but the MDF plate don't.For the V skip the ends walls will permit to hold with clamps the brass ends in position and will also give the sides wall a surface were to rest.The V skip jig may also be improved by providing an outer wall so the inner one, the brass end and the outerwall form a sandwich not only holding the end plate in place but also (the outer wall) offering a side stop that warranty proper alignement of the end with the sides wall.I hope this helps.I'm sure that making the kit easier to build you will sell a lot more. I'm telling because I have 9 beautiful Wrightlines'skips that never got their V skip because soldering was too difficult for my little skills even when I had better eyes than now.DanielVan: Brian <rallim56@...>
Verzonden: maandag 27 mei 15:49 2013
Onderwerp: RE: [FS32NGModelrail] Re: SkipI will take some better photos tomorrow Daniel, I snapped them tonight with my Iphone, I was thinking it would be best to just supply the kit without the wheels, that way the modeller can fit whatever type of wheels they want, because this model is primarily meant to run on 19.05mm. gauge with 28mm. axles, as per the O&K wheels that James supplies, the width of the underframe is such that when the wheels are set to run on 19.05mm. Gauge there is about .5mm. Clearance each side of the hub of the wheel, however in order to run with the wheels at 16.5mm. Gauge, there is enough room for the axle to move sideways about 1.2mm. in the axlebox housing, the axleboxes have a brass tube fitted to crate a slipper bearing as per prototype, this also means, that they will offer some resistance to movement, which makes it easier, especially when you are operating with hook and loop, link & pin, or 3 link type coupling set-ups, this brass tube has an ID of about 2.125mm., it would be possible to use Romford bearings [2mm. OD], but you would only be able to use about 24.5mm. Axles. I was looking at the photos of the Jerry Kit skip, the axleboxes on the skip look to be a much better design, and I will redo the artwork to do that type of axlebox, which will make the kit assembly much simpler, my aim is to now go back through the problems I uncounted with building this skip and try to make it easier to do, things like fitting the angle iron etc. around the tub, I think the average modeller wouldn't be able to get it right, especially after you have punched in the rivet detail, then you have to straighten it and then fold it into angle, unless you have good experience and a good understanding of working with brass, then you may not be able to do this kit in its present state. As far as price, I really don't want to get into just making kits all the time, so I will look into getting these etched commercially and see what that costs, before I will know what the price might be Brian Qld. Aust. -----Original Message----- From: mailto:FS32NGModelrail%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:FS32NGModelrail%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Sent: Monday, 27 May 2013 11:02 PM To: mailto:FS32NGModelrail%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [FS32NGModelrail] Re: Skip Brian: The skip looks very good. Here the questions: 1) Will the kit include axles, bearings and wheels? 2) How ,much will be the total price? 3) When will they be available? 4) Could you take a break, calm a bit down and post some sharper photos? Yes,I know, it is scandalous that I am criticizing your photos after having tormented you all with my horrible pictures for years. But..., Well, could you, please??? thank you. Daniel --- In mailto:FS32NGModelrail%40yahoogroups.com, "Brian" <rallim56@...> wrote: > > So ok fella's you want a 1/32 scale O&K skip. > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FS32NGModelrail/photos/album/2127474162 > /pic/list> > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FS32NGModelrail/photos/album/2127474162 > /pic/list> > > > Brian > Qld. Aust. >
> > > _____ > > From: mailto:FS32NGModelrail%40yahoogroups.com > [mailto:mailto:FS32NGModelrail%40yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of clausoggitte@... > Sent: Saturday, 25 May 2013 11:11 PM > To: mailto:FS32NGModelrail%40yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [FS32NGModelrail] Re: Skip > > > >
> Hi Brian > Sounds very good. I like that you take intoconsideration several > factors that will make the wagon appeal to several types of operating conditions. > > Look forward to see a test drawing or hear a little about how the skip will be made available. >
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Amen, Let it be said! We're waiting, we're waiting !
---In FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com, <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:Henrik,The 1/32 scale skips will still become available in the near future, be patient, good things come to those who wait.Brian
Qld. Aust.didn't know I could speak dutch.. that was a new one .. :Panyway, since Snoodyk announced *he* will do some skips, I guess we just wait for him to come back on the subject../Henrikregards2013/10/20 <johnvogelaar@...>
I`m looking for your skips. please can you contact me at johnvogelaar@...
regads John Lostcreek
---In FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com, <email@example.com> wrote:Henrik,Op dit moment heb ik geen idee wat ze zullen kosten, zal het afhangen van wat de kosten zijn om ze commercieel geëtst, ik hoop te proberen en houden de prijs tot ongeveer AUD $ 25,00 per stuk, plus de kosten van het kopen van de wielen van James Coldicott.
Van: FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com [mailto: FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com] Namens henrik laurell Verzonden: woensdag 29 mei, 2013 23:50 Aan: FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FS32NGModelrail] Re: SkipDeze ziet er fantastisch uit!Heb je enig idee wat dit zou kunnen kosten als klaar voor verkoop? Ik weet zelfs niet model in deze schaal niet meer, ik wil toch een paar te bestellen!/ HenrikbetreftOp 29 mei 2013 10:00, Brian < mailto:rallim56@... > schreef:Ok Daniel,Daar is het met een beetje verf spatte op.
Van: FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com [mailto: FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.com ] Namens daniel caso Verzonden: woensdag 29 mei, 2013 09:07
Naar: mailto:FS32NGModelrail@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [FS32NGModelrail] Re: SkipGeoffIk heb zeker seconde dat.Daniel
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