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Re: [FJGRailroad] AC&N, Washout Road

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  • Malcolm Horton
    The Gazette newspaper article, which was written by Norman Pink Wurz, listed the stations from Amsterdam to Schenectady as: DeGraff, Truax, Teller, Schiller,
    Message 1 of 11 , Apr 20, 2003
      The Gazette newspaper article, which was written by Norman "Pink" Wurz,
      listed the stations from Amsterdam to Schenectady as: DeGraff, Truax,
      Teller, Schiller, Lock 10, Cranesville, Swart Hill, Sanitarium, Waterhouse,
      Tourena, Hoffman, Van Eps, Johnson, Lock 9, Reynolds, Substation, Urban,
      Birches, Rectors, Larrabee, Halfway, Wyatt, Hutchinson, Bryant, Pine,
      Hardins, Carpenter, Tower Nine, Wilmarth, Scotia, Sand Bank, and

      Note that "Substation" is on the west side of Urban. It probably didn't show
      on any timetables because only the operators needed to get off there.

      Malcolm Horton

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "paul larner" <pklarner@...>
      To: <FJGRailroad@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 12:25 AM
      Subject: Re: [FJGRailroad] AC&N, Washout Road

      > The tracks are the one's Amtrak uses, as opposed to those which cross the
      > river and carry the main line of CSX to and from Selkirk. I don't know
      > owns them as CSX has the dragger and does and I think they do the signal
      > work too. But if I recall correctly it was Amtrak that re tied the line a
      > short while back.
      > Look for "Microsoft TerraServer Imagery" to access the satellite images.
      > haven't looked at the photo yet so can't identify which it is, but it
      > very large. Washout road apperars to have been the location ofthe station
      > called Urban, mile 26.57. Hoffmans was 23.18; the next station was
      > 27.23; the B&M bridge at Rte. 50 was mile 31.02. When you leave the
      > highway heading east (Rte. 5) awtch for a side road on the north side and
      > you'll see the NYC overpass that's the only railway overpass in that area,
      > so that will be Washout Road. Stone Arabia road is the first road west of
      > Washout and Rectors Road is the first east, both grade crossings. The
      > firehouse is east of Rectors so if you see that you have gone too far. If
      > you come to the new bridge to the Thruway you are again too far east but
      > the point where the ROW again can be followed going east. Between Vlaie
      > Road and Washout road the former ROW is covered by the highway.
      > PKL
      > >From: "joseph Klapkowski" <riverlinejoe@...>
      > >Reply-To: FJGRailroad@yahoogroups.com
      > >To: FJGRailroad@yahoogroups.com
      > >Subject: Re: [FJGRailroad] AC&N, Washout Road
      > >Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 21:04:40 +0000
      > >
      > >Okay fellas I am not familiar with the area and Paul I know you described
      > >it
      > >earlier but i am going to ask you to do it again. First How far along
      > >between Hoffmans and Scotia is Washout road ?
      > >Paul you mentioned that the substation was nearly adjacent to the CSX (I
      > >taking that to mean Amtrak ) Tracks. Where is the building in this photo?
      > >
      > >And finally how do i get access to these satellite photos / they are
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > >From: Gerald Snyder <handyman756@...>
      > > >Reply-To: FJGRailroad@yahoogroups.com
      > > >To: FJGRailroad@...
      > > >Subject: [FJGRailroad] AC&N, Washout Road
      > > >Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 20:28:32 -0700 (PDT)
      > > >
      > > >I go up and down Rt. 5 every day to work and have been
      > > >looking at that caboose now for at least a year trying
      > > >to figure out why it's sitting there. Figure it has
      > > >to get in the way anytime something comes or goes over
      > > >the AC&N (which probably isn't very often). It looked
      > > >to be in decent shape when it was first parked there
      > > >but has deteriorated with the help of the local
      > > >vandals. Back in the early 70's I had a summer job
      > > >working for Bayshore Industries (a sweatshop) in one
      > > >of the old Willow Street mills. We used to help load
      > > >some of the boxcars that screwed up the traffic at the
      > > >five corners.
      > > >
      > > >I think the trestle you're refering to was the one
      > > >just up Forest Avenue from Church Street (by the paper
      > > >plant). I don't remember a coaling trestle there, but
      > > >it carried the AC&N over to the west side of the
      > > >Chuctenunda Creek. From there it followed the creek
      > > >to the upper mill powerhouse, roughly parallel to
      > > >Locust Ave. but down at the bottom of the hill. What's
      > > >left of the powerhouse is visible looking down the
      > > >embankment from the top of Lyon Street. Looks like
      > > >some of the track may still be down there.
      > > >
      > > >Been reading with interest the items about the line to
      > > >Schenectady and the substations. I checked out the
      > > >Washout Road area today and there are gates across the
      > > >old ROW just past the underpass, so couldn't get in to
      > > >see if there are any structures left in there. For
      > > >years I'd wondered what the flat areas were off
      > > >through the woods that you can see on the North side
      > > >of Rt. 5 (show up well when the leaves are down and
      > > >after a light snow) and it finally dawned on me last
      > > >year that it was the old roadbed. I also spotted some
      > > >old bridge abutments back in at the Verf Kill (state
      > > >historic marker) but haven't been able to match up any
      > > >of the 1928 valuation file photos to that bridge.
      > > >Anybody know anything about it? Anyway, since I
      > > >couldn't get in to see if there were any remains of
      > > >the Washout substation, I pulled up some satellite
      > > >photos of the area. With a 1 meter resolution you can
      > > >see that there are a lot of structures back in there,
      > > >but I'm not sure just where to be looking. One of the
      > > >items posted recently said that the trolly line
      > > >crossed the creek at the rail underpass. As I noted
      > > >in the attached photo, there are abutments down by the
      > > >corner of Washout Road and Rt. 5. What ever they were
      > > >for crossed the creek at about a 45 degree angle, and
      > > >would have been about the right alignment for the
      > > >trolly line coming out through the underpass. Could
      > > >this have been the bridge location, rather that closer
      > > >to the underpass?
      > > >
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