Re: [FJGRailroad] Tracing the Cayadutta; Topo Maps
- Glenn Good to here from you again!! Hope all is well We are doing our
part to keep the FJ&G alive. By the way the Boxcar is coming along nicely!
track lighting should be inplace soon and after the floors are roughed out
with a floor sander we will have a great little place to exhibit some of the
FJ&G treasures that are out there? Randy
----- Original Message -----
From: Gino And Kelly DiCarlo <dicarlos@...>
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [FJGRailroad] Tracing the Cayadutta; Topo Maps
> Thank you so much for the valuable info!!! I would say the Cayadutta
> line is the easiest traced! Paul finally brought me to Sulphure Springs
> Junction. Definatlely not where I thought it was! As for the rest of
> the line (Beloew the emergency path) it is very easy to see becuase there
> are STILL ties in place. I haven't been there in about 15 years, but
> a friend and myself walked it from Fonda up to Route 30a. Very easy
> to find! That's great that there is someone besides myself who likes to
> trace abandoned railroads. Now try to find the Northville branch of the
> FJG! Glenn, are you a member of my mail-group? I'd like to send your
> message to the group becuase our members will enjoy it! Keep in touch and
> let me know when you want to go search for lost lines!
> > From: "Glenn Williams" <103424.2304@...>
> > Reply-To: FJGRailroad@egroups.com
> > Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 19:56:02 -0000
> > To: FJGRailroad@egroups.com
> > Subject: [FJGRailroad] Tracing the Cayadutta; Topo Maps
> > --- In FJGRailroad@egroups.com, "paul larner" <pklarner@h...> wrote:
> >> Gino,
> >> My recollection was that it followed Glebe street which it joined
> > maybe a
> >> quarter mile south of the Arterial. Came out of Knox field and
> > through a
> >> small cut, between Glebe and the next street west, crossed the
> > Arterial and
> >> went south in a continuation of the cut, then came together with
> > Glebe
> >> Street Ext., which it ran along side to where the tracks split. The
> > crossing
> >> would have been just south or east of the Junction. There are
> > houses all
> >> through the area I just described near the Arterial now. Were
> > none,
> > or just
> >> a couple 35 years ago. Also the topography has been changed
> > somewhat.
> > Paul's recollection is dead on.
> > Back when I was chasing trains or tracing abandoned ROWs, the
> > topographic maps put out by the US Geological Survey were an
> > invaluable aid. The problem was finding them. And if you could find
> > them, finding them in the 1:25,000 scale that gave you the detail you
> > needed wasn't always easy. Then there was the matter of the map
> > ending in just the wrong place, so you had to try and find the
> > adjacent map, in the right scale, to complete your search.
> > Frustrating!
> > About a month ago, a newspaper article sent me to TopoZone.com, a web
> > site that has taken all the available topo maps for the continental
> > United States and pasted them together electronically in four scales.
> > Preserved is the surprise of discovering that the only map available
> > for a given sector is still the 1928 edition you used to have (which
> > long ago became too tattered, torn, and coffee-stained to be of use)
> > and couldn't easily replace.
> > Look up "Fonda, NY" and you can trace the route of the Cayadutta
> > Electric from the NYC depot into Johnstown. Ditto the majority of
> > the electric division from Sulphur Springs Jct into Amsterdam. Things
> > get a little fuzzy east of Amsterdam, unfortunately.
> > You still have to be able to decipher the symbols used, and you'll
> > want a colour printer to get the full effect, but it beats not having
> > to rely on memories of 40 years ago.
> > As for specifics from other responses, the old ROW between Route 30A
> > and Mohawk Trail is maintained for emergency use by the Town of
> > Mohawk volunteer firemen. In some ways, it's amazing that over 60
> > years of abandonment hasn't erased more traces of the line. As an
> > example, when I was in Fonda a couple of years ago, the village had
> > just repaved Cayadutta Street, which covered the electric tracks for
> > the first time! That's gotta be some kind of record.
> > And I just remembered how my father used to tell me how Knox Field
> > was originally planned to be a full stadium but the FJ&G management
> > wouldn't relocate the line, despite offers to pay for it.
> > More as I make my way through the messages.
> > Glenn Williams
> > Visit Gino's F.J.G.R.R. Page at
> > http://www.capital.net/~dicarlos/
> > Visit The Greater Capital District Railfan Assocation At
> > http://www.trainweb.com/gcdra/
> > Visit The Site For Existing Railroad Stations
> > in New York State at
> > http://ny.existingstations.com/
> Visit Gino's F.J.G.R.R. Page at
> Visit The Greater Capital District Railfan Assocation At
> Visit The Site For Existing Railroad Stations
> in New York State at