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Re: [FJGRailroad] Post card and Cayadutta

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  • paul larner
    Got to put out teasers once ina while to keep interest up. Just finished the Horse railroad saga and now on the the G&N RR. Still a long way to go. Expect to
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      Got to put out teasers once ina while to keep interest up. Just finished
      the Horse railroad saga and now on the the G&N RR. Still a long way to go.
      Expect to see you at the meeting.

      PKL


      >From: "Randy & Lorraine Decker" <rldecker@...>
      >Reply-To: FJGRailroad@egroups.com
      >To: <FJGRailroad@egroups.com>
      >Subject: Re: [FJGRailroad] Post card and Cayadutta
      >Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:09:47 -0400
      >
      >Wow Paul very informative!! you keep this up and we won't have to see the
      >book!! I did not realize the extent of the changes concerning the lower
      >yards very nice article!
      >
      >----- Original Message -----
      >From: paul larner <pklarner@...>
      >To: <FJGRailroad@egroups.com>
      >Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 12:12 AM
      >Subject: Re: [FJGRailroad] Post card and Cayadutta
      >
      >
      > > The west branch of the Cayadutta crossed the yard at time of
      >construction
      >at
      > > point about where the paint shop was, maybe a little south at the
      >location
      > > of the carpenter shop add on, and north of the freight office. It was
      > > relocated to the south about where it is now after the Northville line
      >was
      > > extended to permit the relocation of the freight house to the location
      >we
      > > all recall and the construction of additional yard tracks. The yard
      >crossed
      > > the creek on three separate bridges which was a safety hazard and
      > > maintenance headache. These were bridges 7, 8 and 9 and were over the
      >creek
      > > in the yard below the freight house. They carried the west yard lead,
      > > freight house track, and the main line. These bridges were of framed
      >timber
      > > supported by trestles and were used for a number of years and then taken
      >out
      > > and the bottom of the creek was timbered and planked for 65 feet down
      >the
      > > stream. Stone abutments were built on each side of this timber and
      >plank
      > > bottom and were laid with Portland cement. Three bridges were built of
      > > steel rails at the company's shop and placed on the abutments. After
      >1893
      > > it became necessary to repair the abutments and raise the track in the
      >yard.
      > > The three bridges were taken off and replaced by three plate girder
      >steel
      > > ones, of twenty-five foot span each. In order to facilitate the
      >shifting
      >of
      > > cars and making up of trains, and lessen the danger to yardmen the
      >openings
      > > between the bridges was closed up. In the fall of 1911 the three plate
      > > girder steel bridges were taken out and the top of the abutments were
      > > covered with a double stee flooring of rails and covered with six inches
      >of
      > > concrete made of Portland cement. Eighteen inches of gravel for ballast
      >was
      > > thrown over the concrete. Ties were laid and rails spiked, making a
      >perfect
      > > covered culvert and splendid yard. This detail is from a report by W.H.
      > > Bradley who was with the FJ&G from its construction days. THe final
      >culvert
      > > is the one under te yard today and extends under the coal house to the
      >main
      > > stream of the Cayadutta.
      > >
      > > The main stream had also been relocated east as the pond was filled and
      >the
      > > yard was laid out for the Northville extension. Ther is other detail on
      >the
      > > engineering characteristics of the road in the NYS commissioner's
      >reports
      > > available at the NY Public Library and the NYS Archives.
      > >
      > > Knowing the types of bridges in the yard is helpful in dating
      >photographs
      >of
      > > the yard area. If you see the girder bridges it is between 1893 and
      >1911.
      > > If you see openings and flat bridges it is pre 1893 and we all have seen
      > > photos since the present culvert was constructed.
      > >
      > > I have not discovered with certainty the disposition of the three twenty
      > > five foot span girder bridges.
      > >
      > > PKL
      > >
      > >
      > > >From: fusco@...
      > > >Reply-To: FJGRailroad@egroups.com
      > > >To: FJGRailroad@egroups.com
      > > >Subject: [FJGRailroad] Post card and Cayadutta
      > > >Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 17:20:28 -0000
      > > >
      > > >Two things:
      > > >
      > > >Thanks Gino for the e-Bay alert on the Gloversville post card, which
      > > >I
      > > >was able to buy from the seller in Alabama. It's the first time I've
      > > >done e-Bay and it was a fun experience. Thanks for continuing to
      > > >keep
      > > >us posted on FJ&G items that you spot on e-Bay.
      > > >
      > > >Also, I just got a letter yesterday from Rev. Dave Maxfield, who came
      > > >back to G-ville for a visit two weeks ago. He went to the
      > > >Gloversville Library and found city maps from 1878 and l913 which
      > > >show
      > > >both the main creek and also a west branch of the Cayadutta Creek
      > > >flowing right through the Gloversville yard and under the tracks.
      > > >The
      > > >courses of these waterways were obviously altered after 1913. He
      > > >asked me to spread the word of his "discovery;" and, also does have
      > > >information regarding this re-routing. ---Andy
      > > >
      > > >
      > >
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      > >
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