RE: [FJGRailroad] FJ&Gv2 in the works...
From the looks of the tracks there wasn't much engineering done before laying them out. IIRC the initial installation, 1967, was a facing point switch southward into the plant. Later, 1970s DO perhaps, a switch was installed creating a single runaround track running from the main at Patch road to track into the plant. We could guestimate the actual footage and photos will support the relative layout on the ground. Off the track connecting to Patch road was a spur near Patch road.
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 22:05:31 -0400
Subject: Re: [FJGRailroad] FJ&Gv2 in the works...
There is a Brill model 55 out there, and a couple of different Americans
too. I'd like to finish what I've started with the late '70s version
but maybe while I'm doing that maybe we can gather what I'd need to do a
third version of the line. What's the date for the Brill, just checked
your website and found the Northville Branch would have to be pre-1930.
Speaking of track plans, does anyone have a plan for the Coleco tracks
before they expanded over the mainline?
On 09/06/2010 9:39 PM, Dicarlo, Gino wrote:
> It may not be too difficult to do a 1928 Northville Branch. Now that
> would be crazy cool! There's probably enough info in the valuations
> to do the Northville, Cranberry Creek and Mayfield station. The rest
> of the line would be trees and farmland. There is a bridge at
> Mayfield that is pretty standard and you could fudge a lumber yard at
> Northville. We have all the track plans so that part would be easy!
> I think it's a challenge you can take and complete! Give us a couple
> Americans and it will be sweet! Heck, I'd like to run the Model 55
> from Gloversville to Northville!
The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. Get busy.
- I'll have to see what I did with the roster!
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On Jun 10, 2010, at 6:54 AM, "Paul Charland" <p.charlie@...<mailto:p.charlie@...>> wrote:
1920-30 sounds interesting... could even have a Curtiss Genny flying past.
You use to have a complete roster on the old website, can't find it on
the new one. Just a text page, can't seem to find it here, do you
remember the name of the file, I probably still have the page?
On 09/06/2010 11:15 PM, Dicarlo, Gino wrote:
> If it's the Brill 55, it can be between 1920 and 1930. Yes, a long
> time ago. Most of the line wouldn't change much from your 1950's,
> maybe just adding an electric track for the ROW between Gloversville
> Yard and Market Street in Johnstown. You could really have a new
> challenge with a 1920's version. There's got to be something similar
> to Number 14 out there in NYC paint!
> I will get you the old info, but I don't have the Coleco layout. I'm
> sure Aaron has that somewhere...
- --- In FJGRailroad@yahoogroups.com, Paul Larner <pklarner@...> wrote:
> [snip]By the mid to late 50s, only the turntable and the track leading to it from the east were left. Sarris' restaurant was built no later than the mid 50s.
> I don't know if you care to go for this much detail: in the early fifties there were three yard tracks and a spur for the oil company in the FJ&G Fonda yard, in addition to the turntable lead and the coal track. Without confirming for the purpose of this conversation, the coal track and diamond may have been removed in the late forties, or at least when the Sarris Brothers built there restaurant; I recall stepping over the diamond frog lying in the brush near teh turntable. On the north (west) end the first switch was on the south (east) end of the bridge and the second switch shortly beyond the frog. At the south (east) end of the yard the switch off the siding to the third track was located a few feet further north than the coal track switch, with the Standard Oil switch just beyond the frog. The Standard Oil track came off the second track east (north) of the main track, extending north (west) to a point nearly opposite the north frog of the siding. A picture is worth a thousand words however the map is too big to conveniently scan.
> Glenn might be able to add first hand details of what was there in the 50's, when it disappeared and when Sarris' restaurant was built.
Somewhere I have detail pictures of the turntable taken around that time. Time to fire up the scanner!
- The siding outside the building that had pellets was called the Vinyl Track,for vinyl pellets unloading (mostly used for swimming pools). Plastic pellets were unloaded inside the building.Inside the building, covered hopper cars with plastic pellets were spotted most extreme south end. Three box cars could also be spotted at the same time,plus room for a locomotive.Mark
- Hi Mark,
Thanks, was there a name given to the run-around track at Coleco?
On 10/06/2010 10:37 PM, Mark Wilber wrote:
> The siding outside the building that had pellets was called the Vinyl
> Track,for vinyl pellets unloading (mostly used for swimming pools).
> Plastic pellets were unloaded inside the building.Inside the
> building, covered hopper cars with plastic pellets were spotted most
> extreme south end. Three box cars could also be spotted at the same
> time,plus room for a locomotive.Mark
- Maybe it was 'vinyl' track that caused the derailments back there. I seem to recall Mark mentioning something like that...
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On Jun 10, 2010, at 10:37 PM, Mark Wilber <mwilber2001@...> wrote:The siding outside the building that had pellets was called the Vinyl Track,for vinyl pellets unloading (mostly used for swimming pools). Plastic pellets were unloaded inside the building.Inside the building, covered hopper cars with plastic pellets were spotted most extreme south end. Three box cars could also be spotted at the same time,plus room for a locomotive.Mark
- I think the switch in the hole, (runaround & track to the inside of building) gave us the most problems.Mark