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  • Gino And Kelly DiCarlo
    Paul, Does Walt have an e-mail address, or can he be reached only by mail? Gino ... the
    Message 1 of 10 , Nov 4, 1999
      Paul,

      Does Walt have an e-mail address, or can he be reached only by mail?

      Gino


      ----------
      >From: Paul Charland <p.charlie@...>
      >To: FJGRailroad@onelist.com
      >Subject: Re: [FJGRailroad] Engine Roster
      >Date: Wed, Nov 3, 1999, 9:38 PM
      >

      > From: Paul Charland <p.charlie@...>
      >
      > Hi Gino,
      >
      > Walt also has all the articles ever published in the railroad magazines over
      the
      > years. It would be nice if they could be posted to the group.
      >
      > Paul
      >
      > paul larner wrote:
      >
      >> From: "paul larner" <pklarner@...>
      >>
      >> Gino, would your source like to communicate with me on this roster. He has
      >> information I would like to have as corroboration? Has he joinedthe group?
      >> Walt Danyluk has the most extensive collection of news reports and much
      >> other info re FJ&G, tons of original research. I'm still plugging in the
      >> archives at the NYS Library.
      >>
      >> PKL
      >>
      >> >From: "Gino And Kelly DiCarlo" <dicarlos@...>
      >> >Reply-To: FJGRailroad@onelist.com
      >> >To: FJGRailroad@onelist.com
      >> >Subject: Re: [FJGRailroad] Engine Roster
      >> >Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 09:04:44 -0500
      >> >
      >> >Thanks for all the info Paul!
      >> >
      >> >Gino
      >> >
      >> >----------
      >> > >From: "paul larner" <pklarner@...>
      >> > >To: FJGRailroad@onelist.com
      >> > >Subject: Re: [FJGRailroad] Engine Roster
      >> > >Date: Tue, Nov 2, 1999, 3:30 PM
      >> > >
      >> >
      >> > > From: "paul larner" <pklarner@...>
      >> > >
      >> > > Believe it or not, there seems to be a new mystery to their roster every
      >> > > week. Walt turned up an 1879 item indicating the FJ&G was receiving
      >> >another
      >> > > locomotive. Can't figure since their capitalization records don't
      >> >indicate a
      >> > > locomotive purchased about this time. Not even a second hand one. We
      >> >do
      >> > > know that for repairs in the years before the FJ&G constructed their own
      >> > > shop all repairs had to be done at Schenectady. The is interesting. Am
      >> > > especially anxious to know the methodology in documenting the builders,
      >> > > other than the available Schenectady records and the obvious Manchester
      >> >bell
      >> > > on the Pioneer.
      >> > >
      >> > > The Schenectady nos. are easy to check. There is a picture of a Brook's
      >> > > engine strongly believed to be pictured on the FJ&G, because of the
      >> >source
      >> > > and other material acquired at the same time ???.
      >> > >
      >> > > Here's some further info.: The four Manhattan types were acquired in
      >> >the
      >> > > first six months of 1903. They were numbered 1, 2, 4, and 11, the open
      >> > > numbers on the roster at that time. No. 4 (127 Blt 1896) arrived March
      >> >30,
      >> > > 1903; No. 11 (130 Blt 1895) arrived April 23, 1903 The one and only No.
      >> >5
      >> > > was still on the roster and have a reference to it in use on the
      >> >electric
      >> > > road extension project. Probably not too convenient hence the purchase
      >> >of
      >> > > the Forneys. No. 5 was retired from the books along with Forneys 1, 4,
      >> >11
      >> > > in fiscal year ended 6/30/05. No. 4 being sold to the Burton Lumber Co.
      >> >I
      >> > > have no readily available info on the Forneys 1 and 2, except No. 1 was
      >> > > built in 1895. No. 2 is a blank though it is the only one I can recall
      >> > > seeing in a photo. Built date references are from a letter to the
      >> >company
      >> > > re inspection of the engines before acquisition. We need to reconcile
      >> >these
      >> > > dates with the dates given in the roster.
      >> > >
      >> > > The FJ&G acquired two "small" locomotives and two "small" coaches in
      >> >fiscal
      >> > > 6/30/93 to compete with the Cayadutta. This didn't last long as The
      >> >FJ&G
      >> > > fell into NYC hands, through a little bit of conspiracy, then was turned
      >> > > over to the Cayadutta through a little more conniving. Mr. Caten and the
      >> > > Littauer Brothers were instrumental in this bit of trickery. No record
      >> >of
      >> > > when the locos were retired though the company took a $500 credit in FY
      >> > > 1897.
      >> > >
      >> > > The company also, at least as far as I can determine, did not capitalize
      >> > > Nos. 7, 10 (1893 by the Builder's numbers) or 2nd No. 3 (1894). Old 3
      >> >and 4
      >> > > were allegedly taken in exchange for 2nd No. 3. However there is
      >> >reference
      >> > > to No. 4 in 1897. Perhaps not the same loco.
      >> > >
      >> > > I believe 1st No. 3 was a 4-6-0, 1st No. 4 a 4-4-0. This would be
      >> > > consistent with the Commissioner's report and the best available info
      >> >today.
      >> > >
      >> > > Reports FY 12/1/70 none listed FY 1875 4 engines
      >> > > FY 11/28/71 2 engines FY 1876-79 5 engines
      >> > > FY 1872 3 engines FY 1880 3 as 2(4 wheel)-1(six wheel)
      >> > > FY 1873 3 engines FY 1881 5 as 3-2
      >> > > FY 1874 3 engines
      >> > >
      >> > > The inconsistency from 79 to 80 then 81 may be explained by the fact one
      >> > > freight and one passenger engine were acquired about the time the FJ&G
      >> > > undertook the operation of the Gloversville and Northville Railroad,
      >> >which
      >> > > wasn't acquired until 1881, but never owned any locomotives of their
      >> >own.
      >> > > They had a two stall engine house according to the NYSRRComRpts. and may
      >> > > explain an oversight by the person who filed the report. Money numbers
      >> > > didn't vary.
      >> > >
      >> > > During the late 1880's and maybe into 1891 the FJ&G did a lot of
      >> >contract
      >> > > work for the New York Power and Equipment Co. They rebuilt locomotives
      >> >which
      >> > > were then sold to other railroads. They also rebuilt their own
      >> >locomotives,
      >> > > so much so that they are confused as being another locomotive. New
      >> >cabs,
      >> > > tenders, smoke box extensions, fire boxes, trucks you name it they did
      >> >it
      >> > > for NYP&E and for themselves. I have a picture of No. 2 at Broadalbin
      >> >that
      >> > > resembles the one in Dave Nestle's book only when you look close at the
      >> > > domes and engine. Smoke box and cab are diferent. Nos 1, 2, 4 were
      >> > > extensively rebuilt by FJ&G.
      >> > >
      >> > > Anyway if you haven't figured by now this is going a little long and
      >> >won't
      >> > > answer all the questions (going back to my first sentence) I'm working
      >> >the
      >> > > 1893 papers at present and Walt is working in the late 70's, early
      >> >eighties
      >> > > right now and we aren't any closer to closing the gap. After I gather as
      >> > > much as I can find, I'll try to put another roster together, but I'm
      >> >afraid
      >> > > the 80's to 1893 are going to always have a hole or two.
      >> > >
      >> > > Question: Does any one know anything about the NYP&E Co. Eg: who were
      >> >the
      >> > > directors and officers, where was their office (we know their work was
      >> >done
      >> > > in Gloversville), how long did they continue in business. Or does
      >> >anyone
      >> > > know how I can find this out. Corporate records during this period
      >> >appear
      >> > > to be in the couty files, not state.
      >> > >
      >> > > Now does this get another discussion going?
      >> > >
      >> > > I haven't been able to follow up on the waiting shelter in Perth,
      >> >however if
      >> > > someone wants to reconstruct it it is available, with a small condition.
      >> > >
      >> > > Gino, a note from the Bridge Line HS ask your questioner to join the
      >> >group
      >> > > and to offer his material. There's a lot of research out there that's
      >> >lying
      >> > > dormant.
      >> > >
      >> > > PKL
      >> > >
      >> > >
      >> > >>From: "Aaron Keller" <aakeller@...>
      >> > >>Reply-To: FJGRailroad@onelist.com
      >> > >>To: <FJGRailroad@onelist.com>
      >> > >>Subject: Re: [FJGRailroad] Engine Roster
      >> > >>Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 13:22:18 -0500
      >> > >>
      >> > >>Gino,
      >> > >>
      >> > >>I know very little off-hand about the steam locomotives. What I do know
      >> >is
      >> > >>correct. I know little about the early locomotives and, from what I
      >> >hear,
      >> > >>most common rosters are inaccurate.
      >> > >>
      >> > >>Walt Danylak of Gloversville probably has the best available roster. I
      >> > >>unfortunately do not have a copy of what he put together with me here in
      >> > >>college.
      >> > >>
      >> > >>-Aaron
      >> > >>
      >> > >>-----Original Message-----
      >> > >>From: Gino And Kelly DiCarlo <dicarlos@...>
      >> > >>To: FJG Railroad <FJGRailroad@onelist.com>
      >> > >>Date: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 1:03 PM
      >> > >>Subject: [FJGRailroad] Engine Roster
      >> > >>
      >> > >>
      >> > >> >A guy on the internet supplied me with an FJG roster that he had
      >> > >> >and he wanted me to check it. I'm posting his so that Paul Larner
      >> > >> >and Aaron Keller could check it out. I know you guys, especially
      >> > >> >Paul can tackle this. According to Paul, some of he info I have is
      >> > >> >incomplete...
      >> > >> >
      >> > >> >here it is...
      >> > >> >
      >> > >> >1st.1 4-4-0 Manch.8/70 249 "Pioneer"
      >> > >> > ren."David A.Wells"
      >> > >> >2nd.1 4-4-0 Blw./80 cn.?? (from your ws)
      >> > >> >1st.2 4-4-0 Sch.12/70 678 "Cayadutta"
      >> > >> >2nd.2 ??
      >> > >> >1st.3 4-4-0 Sch.10/71 728 "W.J.Heacock"
      >> > >> >2nd.3 4-4-0 Blw./80 cn.?? (from your ws)
      >> > >> >3rd.3 4-4-0 Sch./94 4204 (you say sc./29)
      >> > >> >1st.4 4-6-0 Danf./74 or /75 (nothing else)
      >> > >> >2nd.4 4-4-0 Alt./81 cn.?? (ex PRR cl.D-2a)
      >> > >> >1st.5 2-6-0 Hink./76 (19x24)
      >> > >> >2nd.5 4-4-0 Alt./81 cn.?? (ex PRR cl.D-2a)
      >> > >> >1st.6 4-6-0 ex /88 PRR
      >> > >> >2nd.6 4-4-0 Sch./99 5170 (you say sc./30)
      >> > >> >1st.7 2-6-0 Sch./89 (from your ws)
      >> > >> >2nd.7 0-6-0 Sch./93 4146 (you say sc./29)
      >> > >> >1st.8 4-4-0 ex /89 PRR
      >> > >> >2nd.8 4-4-0 Sch.5/01 6064
      >> > >> >1st.9 4-4-0 ex /89 PRR
      >> > >> >2nd.9 4-4-0 Sch.5/00 5557
      >> > >> >10 0-5-0 Sch./93 4179
      >> > >> >1st.11?? 0-4-4f Blw.3/79 4570 ex 5/03
      >> > >> > Manhattan Ry.111
      >> > >> >2nd.11 0-8-0 Sch./23 65158
      >> > >> >12 2-6-0 Sch.4/00 5558
      >> > >> >13 ??
      >> > >> >14 0-6-0 Sch./26 66984
      >> > >> > Now, there are 3 whose rd.nos.are not known:
      >> > >> >0-4-4f Rh.Isl.3/79 751 ex 3/03 Manhattan Ry.120
      >> > >> >0-4-4f Rh.Isl.3/79 758 ex MRy.127
      >> > >> >0-4-4f Rh.Isl.3/79 761 ex MRy.130
      >> > >>
      >> > >>
      >> > >>
      >> > >>------------------------------------------------------------------------
      >> > >>Visit Gino's F.J.G.R.R. Page at
      >> > >>http://www.capital.net/~dicarlos/
      >> > >><< text3.html >>
      >> > >
      >> > > > Visit Gino's F.J.G.R.R. Page at
      >> > > http://www.capital.net/~dicarlos/
      >> > >
      >> >
      >> >------------------------------------------------------------------------
      >> >Visit Gino's F.J.G.R.R. Page at
      >> >http://www.capital.net/~dicarlos/
      >> ><< text3.html >>
      >>
      >> > Visit Gino's F.J.G.R.R. Page at
      >> http://www.capital.net/~dicarlos/
      >
      > > Visit Gino's F.J.G.R.R. Page at
      > http://www.capital.net/~dicarlos/
      >
    • Paul Charland
      Hi Gino, Has Walt moved to Gloversville? He used to be in Syracuse. The other Paul!
      Message 2 of 10 , Nov 4, 1999
        Hi Gino,

        Has Walt moved to Gloversville? He used to be in Syracuse.

        The other Paul!

        Gino And Kelly DiCarlo wrote:

        > From: "Gino And Kelly DiCarlo" <dicarlos@...>
        >
        > Paul,
        >
        > I haven't heard a response from him. I'm just trying to get some
        > discussions going on the list. Especially yours and Aarons because
        > you guys don't skimp on the details. I've asked him to join the list
        > but still no reply...
        >
        > Gino
        >
        > ----------
        > >From: "paul larner" <pklarner@...>
        > >To: FJGRailroad@onelist.com
        > >Subject: Re: [FJGRailroad] Engine Roster
        > >Date: Wed, Nov 3, 1999, 7:51 PM
        > >
        >
        > > From: "paul larner" <pklarner@...>
        > >
        > > Gino, would your source like to communicate with me on this roster. He has
        > > information I would like to have as corroboration? Has he joinedthe group?
        > > Walt Danyluk has the most extensive collection of news reports and much
        > > other info re FJ&G, tons of original research. I'm still plugging in the
        > > archives at the NYS Library.
        > >
        > > PKL
        > >
        > >
        > >>From: "Gino And Kelly DiCarlo" <dicarlos@...>
        > >>Reply-To: FJGRailroad@onelist.com
        > >>To: FJGRailroad@onelist.com
        > >>Subject: Re: [FJGRailroad] Engine Roster
        > >>Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 09:04:44 -0500
        > >>
        > >>Thanks for all the info Paul!
        > >>
        > >>Gino
        > >>
        > >>----------
        > >> >From: "paul larner" <pklarner@...>
        > >> >To: FJGRailroad@onelist.com
        > >> >Subject: Re: [FJGRailroad] Engine Roster
        > >> >Date: Tue, Nov 2, 1999, 3:30 PM
        > >> >
        > >>
        > >> > From: "paul larner" <pklarner@...>
        > >> >
        > >> > Believe it or not, there seems to be a new mystery to their roster every
        > >> > week. Walt turned up an 1879 item indicating the FJ&G was receiving
        > >>another
        > >> > locomotive. Can't figure since their capitalization records don't
        > >>indicate a
        > >> > locomotive purchased about this time. Not even a second hand one. We
        > >>do
        > >> > know that for repairs in the years before the FJ&G constructed their own
        > >> > shop all repairs had to be done at Schenectady. The is interesting. Am
        > >> > especially anxious to know the methodology in documenting the builders,
        > >> > other than the available Schenectady records and the obvious Manchester
        > >>bell
        > >> > on the Pioneer.
        > >> >
        > >> > The Schenectady nos. are easy to check. There is a picture of a Brook's
        > >> > engine strongly believed to be pictured on the FJ&G, because of the
        > >>source
        > >> > and other material acquired at the same time ???.
        > >> >
        > >> > Here's some further info.: The four Manhattan types were acquired in
        > >>the
        > >> > first six months of 1903. They were numbered 1, 2, 4, and 11, the open
        > >> > numbers on the roster at that time. No. 4 (127 Blt 1896) arrived March
        > >>30,
        > >> > 1903; No. 11 (130 Blt 1895) arrived April 23, 1903 The one and only No.
        > >>5
        > >> > was still on the roster and have a reference to it in use on the
        > >>electric
        > >> > road extension project. Probably not too convenient hence the purchase
        > >>of
        > >> > the Forneys. No. 5 was retired from the books along with Forneys 1, 4,
        > >>11
        > >> > in fiscal year ended 6/30/05. No. 4 being sold to the Burton Lumber Co.
        > >>I
        > >> > have no readily available info on the Forneys 1 and 2, except No. 1 was
        > >> > built in 1895. No. 2 is a blank though it is the only one I can recall
        > >> > seeing in a photo. Built date references are from a letter to the
        > >>company
        > >> > re inspection of the engines before acquisition. We need to reconcile
        > >>these
        > >> > dates with the dates given in the roster.
        > >> >
        > >> > The FJ&G acquired two "small" locomotives and two "small" coaches in
        > >>fiscal
        > >> > 6/30/93 to compete with the Cayadutta. This didn't last long as The
        > >>FJ&G
        > >> > fell into NYC hands, through a little bit of conspiracy, then was turned
        > >> > over to the Cayadutta through a little more conniving. Mr. Caten and the
        > >> > Littauer Brothers were instrumental in this bit of trickery. No record
        > >>of
        > >> > when the locos were retired though the company took a $500 credit in FY
        > >> > 1897.
        > >> >
        > >> > The company also, at least as far as I can determine, did not capitalize
        > >> > Nos. 7, 10 (1893 by the Builder's numbers) or 2nd No. 3 (1894). Old 3
        > >>and 4
        > >> > were allegedly taken in exchange for 2nd No. 3. However there is
        > >>reference
        > >> > to No. 4 in 1897. Perhaps not the same loco.
        > >> >
        > >> > I believe 1st No. 3 was a 4-6-0, 1st No. 4 a 4-4-0. This would be
        > >> > consistent with the Commissioner's report and the best available info
        > >>today.
        > >> >
        > >> > Reports FY 12/1/70 none listed FY 1875 4 engines
        > >> > FY 11/28/71 2 engines FY 1876-79 5 engines
        > >> > FY 1872 3 engines FY 1880 3 as 2(4 wheel)-1(six wheel)
        > >> > FY 1873 3 engines FY 1881 5 as 3-2
        > >> > FY 1874 3 engines
        > >> >
        > >> > The inconsistency from 79 to 80 then 81 may be explained by the fact one
        > >> > freight and one passenger engine were acquired about the time the FJ&G
        > >> > undertook the operation of the Gloversville and Northville Railroad,
        > >>which
        > >> > wasn't acquired until 1881, but never owned any locomotives of their
        > >>own.
        > >> > They had a two stall engine house according to the NYSRRComRpts. and may
        > >> > explain an oversight by the person who filed the report. Money numbers
        > >> > didn't vary.
        > >> >
        > >> > During the late 1880's and maybe into 1891 the FJ&G did a lot of
        > >>contract
        > >> > work for the New York Power and Equipment Co. They rebuilt locomotives
        > >>which
        > >> > were then sold to other railroads. They also rebuilt their own
        > >>locomotives,
        > >> > so much so that they are confused as being another locomotive. New
        > >>cabs,
        > >> > tenders, smoke box extensions, fire boxes, trucks you name it they did
        > >>it
        > >> > for NYP&E and for themselves. I have a picture of No. 2 at Broadalbin
        > >>that
        > >> > resembles the one in Dave Nestle's book only when you look close at the
        > >> > domes and engine. Smoke box and cab are diferent. Nos 1, 2, 4 were
        > >> > extensively rebuilt by FJ&G.
        > >> >
        > >> > Anyway if you haven't figured by now this is going a little long and
        > >>won't
        > >> > answer all the questions (going back to my first sentence) I'm working
        > >>the
        > >> > 1893 papers at present and Walt is working in the late 70's, early
        > >>eighties
        > >> > right now and we aren't any closer to closing the gap. After I gather as
        > >> > much as I can find, I'll try to put another roster together, but I'm
        > >>afraid
        > >> > the 80's to 1893 are going to always have a hole or two.
        > >> >
        > >> > Question: Does any one know anything about the NYP&E Co. Eg: who were
        > >>the
        > >> > directors and officers, where was their office (we know their work was
        > >>done
        > >> > in Gloversville), how long did they continue in business. Or does
        > >>anyone
        > >> > know how I can find this out. Corporate records during this period
        > >>appear
        > >> > to be in the couty files, not state.
        > >> >
        > >> > Now does this get another discussion going?
        > >> >
        > >> > I haven't been able to follow up on the waiting shelter in Perth,
        > >>however if
        > >> > someone wants to reconstruct it it is available, with a small condition.
        > >> >
        > >> > Gino, a note from the Bridge Line HS ask your questioner to join the
        > >>group
        > >> > and to offer his material. There's a lot of research out there that's
        > >>lying
        > >> > dormant.
        > >> >
        > >> > PKL
        > >> >
        > >> >
        > >> >>From: "Aaron Keller" <aakeller@...>
        > >> >>Reply-To: FJGRailroad@onelist.com
        > >> >>To: <FJGRailroad@onelist.com>
        > >> >>Subject: Re: [FJGRailroad] Engine Roster
        > >> >>Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 13:22:18 -0500
        > >> >>
        > >> >>Gino,
        > >> >>
        > >> >>I know very little off-hand about the steam locomotives. What I do know
        > >>is
        > >> >>correct. I know little about the early locomotives and, from what I
        > >>hear,
        > >> >>most common rosters are inaccurate.
        > >> >>
        > >> >>Walt Danylak of Gloversville probably has the best available roster. I
        > >> >>unfortunately do not have a copy of what he put together with me here in
        > >> >>college.
        > >> >>
        > >> >>-Aaron
        > >> >>
        > >> >>-----Original Message-----
        > >> >>From: Gino And Kelly DiCarlo <dicarlos@...>
        > >> >>To: FJG Railroad <FJGRailroad@onelist.com>
        > >> >>Date: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 1:03 PM
        > >> >>Subject: [FJGRailroad] Engine Roster
        > >> >>
        > >> >>
        > >> >> >A guy on the internet supplied me with an FJG roster that he had
        > >> >> >and he wanted me to check it. I'm posting his so that Paul Larner
        > >> >> >and Aaron Keller could check it out. I know you guys, especially
        > >> >> >Paul can tackle this. According to Paul, some of he info I have is
        > >> >> >incomplete...
        > >> >> >
        > >> >> >here it is...
        > >> >> >
        > >> >> >1st.1 4-4-0 Manch.8/70 249 "Pioneer"
        > >> >> > ren."David A.Wells"
        > >> >> >2nd.1 4-4-0 Blw./80 cn.?? (from your ws)
        > >> >> >1st.2 4-4-0 Sch.12/70 678 "Cayadutta"
        > >> >> >2nd.2 ??
        > >> >> >1st.3 4-4-0 Sch.10/71 728 "W.J.Heacock"
        > >> >> >2nd.3 4-4-0 Blw./80 cn.?? (from your ws)
        > >> >> >3rd.3 4-4-0 Sch./94 4204 (you say sc./29)
        > >> >> >1st.4 4-6-0 Danf./74 or /75 (nothing else)
        > >> >> >2nd.4 4-4-0 Alt./81 cn.?? (ex PRR cl.D-2a)
        > >> >> >1st.5 2-6-0 Hink./76 (19x24)
        > >> >> >2nd.5 4-4-0 Alt./81 cn.?? (ex PRR cl.D-2a)
        > >> >> >1st.6 4-6-0 ex /88 PRR
        > >> >> >2nd.6 4-4-0 Sch./99 5170 (you say sc./30)
        > >> >> >1st.7 2-6-0 Sch./89 (from your ws)
        > >> >> >2nd.7 0-6-0 Sch./93 4146 (you say sc./29)
        > >> >> >1st.8 4-4-0 ex /89 PRR
        > >> >> >2nd.8 4-4-0 Sch.5/01 6064
        > >> >> >1st.9 4-4-0 ex /89 PRR
        > >> >> >2nd.9 4-4-0 Sch.5/00 5557
        > >> >> >10 0-5-0 Sch./93 4179
        > >> >> >1st.11?? 0-4-4f Blw.3/79 4570 ex 5/03
        > >> >> > Manhattan Ry.111
        > >> >> >2nd.11 0-8-0 Sch./23 65158
        > >> >> >12 2-6-0 Sch.4/00 5558
        > >> >> >13 ??
        > >> >> >14 0-6-0 Sch./26 66984
        > >> >> > Now, there are 3 whose rd.nos.are not known:
        > >> >> >0-4-4f Rh.Isl.3/79 751 ex 3/03 Manhattan Ry.120
        > >> >> >0-4-4f Rh.Isl.3/79 758 ex MRy.127
        > >> >> >0-4-4f Rh.Isl.3/79 761 ex MRy.130
        > >> >>
        > >> >>
        > >> >>
        > >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------
        > >> >>Visit Gino's F.J.G.R.R. Page at
        > >> >>http://www.capital.net/~dicarlos/
        > >> >><< text3.html >>
        > >> >
        > >> > > Visit Gino's F.J.G.R.R. Page at
        > >> > http://www.capital.net/~dicarlos/
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        > > > Visit Gino's F.J.G.R.R. Page at
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        > > Visit Gino's F.J.G.R.R. Page at
        > http://www.capital.net/~dicarlos/
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