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RE: [FJGRailroad] Mystery Photo

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  • Dicarlo, Gino
    I have photos somewhere of an engine pointing cab-north. They are from the late 70 s after one of them ventured to other DO property. I also seem to remember
    Message 1 of 32 , Feb 22, 2010
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      I have photos somewhere of an engine pointing cab-north.  They are from the late 70's after one of them ventured to other DO property.  I also seem to remember having a photo from the 50's or 60's of an S2 at Broadalbin Station with it's nose pointing west!




      From: FJGRailroad@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FJGRailroad@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of joseph Klapkowski
      Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 9:52 PM
      To: Fonda Johnstown
      Subject: RE: [FJGRailroad] Mystery Photo



      Unless the 20 and 21 went off the property, in modern times they had to be facing south.

      To: FJGRailroad@yahoogroups.com
      From: akeller_1979@...
      Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:39:30 -0800
      Subject: Re: [FJGRailroad] Mystery Photo



      The concern I have with guessing it's a northbound train is that the cabs of the FJ&G switchers faced Fonda 99% of the time.  I say 99% of the time because someone somewhere might have a photo to contradict that operating procedure, even though I have no such photo in my collection.  [Does anyone here have one?]  I believe the rationale of the cab-south, nose-north operation was that it aided in ventilating the engine while pulling up the hill out of Fonda. 

      All the photos I have of this period, pre, and post, show the 20 and the 21 on the FJ&G with the cab facing south, the nose facing north.  The railroad had no turning facilities at this time. 
      The DO engines seemed to be pointed north the vast majority of the time as well.  However, after the wye was constructed at the industrial park, sometimes they could be found pointing south.  I have a few photos documenting this.

      I still seem to think it's Union Ave.  I have a photo of the Trackmobile taken from roughly the same vantage point and the tree to the left seems awfully similar.  The junk laying there could also be in the back yard of the house that sits near the tracks at that location.  But perhaps I am wrong.

      The reason I have my doubts about a Patch Rd. location is because of the berm to the right of the engine... I don't think there's such a berm at Patch.

      However, you still could be right, Mark.  I rarely ever went down Union Ave when I was younger and I don't recall if there was a whistle post there at that time.  One is clearly visible in the slide.





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    • Mark Wilber
      That s what I was wondering,it may not be at a road crossing, but further back at a farm crossing prior to a road crossing.Mark
      Message 32 of 32 , Feb 24, 2010
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        That's what I was wondering,it may not be at a road crossing, but further back at a farm crossing prior to a road crossing.Mark

        From: "Dicarlo, Gino" <Gino.Dicarlo@...>
        To: "FJGRailroad@yahoogroups.com" <FJGRailroad@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 11:43:42 PM
        Subject: RE: [FJGRailroad] Re: Mystery Photo


        I wondered why that WP was next to the Flange Marker.  I thought it was a little late for the Patch Road Xing.


        From: FJGRailroad@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FJGRailroad @yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Paul Larner
        Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 11:31 PM
        To: FJGRailroad
        Subject: RE: [FJGRailroad] Re: Mystery Photo



        Patch Road it is.  Confirmed by photos showing the flange marker, and whistle post for Anthony's crossing (first crossing north of the Junction).


        To: FJGRailroad@ yahoogroups. com
        From: jsesonske@aol. com
        Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 02:45:27 +0000
        Subject: [FJGRailroad] Re: Mystery Photo


        I am thinking NB just before Patch Rd also. The sun angle is correct for afternoon at that spot and that does look like a pool where the Coleco parking lot would be. I thought there was a whistle post and flanger flag just south (west) of Patch Rd. I agree with the nose issue but as has been stated the long hood did occasionally face south.

        This looks like late Fall or early Spring. Wouldn't a SB at Townsend or Union have more light on the nose that time of year. I think Townsend is a pretty south facing crossing but I am not familiar with Union Ave xing.

        Just my 2 cents on the topic.

        I like those marker lights. They looked sharp on 20 and 21 when they had them.

        --- In FJGRailroad@ yahoogroups. com, Mark Wilber <mwilber2001@ ...> wrote:
        > Ive come to a better guess. I downloaded the image and blew it up. It appears what you see on the left is a swimming pool. Coleco use to have pictures taken across their plant of their swimming pools for the Montgomery Wards catalog. They were taken in late summer for the next years summer catalog. So my guess is now that it was taken at Patch Road of a northbound.Mark


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