Loading ...
Sorry, an error occurred while loading the content.
 

Re: [FJGRailroad] Amsterdam Wreck

Expand Messages
  • Gerald Snyder
    Now let s remember where this occured. Probably ran over an old washing machine somebody dumped on the tracks. Jerry ... === message truncated ===
    Message 1 of 5 , Oct 14, 2005
      Now let's remember where this occured. Probably ran
      over an old washing machine somebody dumped on the
      tracks.
      Jerry
      --- Gino's Railpage <fjgrailroad@...> wrote:

      > No one wants to hear "equipment failure," they want
      > to hear that a
      > 'drunk' is running the train!
      >
      > Gino
      >
      > On 10/14/05, Stephen G. Myers <Knixrule1@...>
      > wrote:
      > >
      > > I read this and if I were not a railroad employee
      > I would think that the
      > > cause of the derailment was "driver" failure or
      > drug and alcohol induced.
      > > Very poor reporting. The cause was most likely a
      > journal bearing
      > > failure!
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 13:29:32 -0400 Gino's
      > Railpage
      > > <fjgrailroad@...> writes:
      > > > Albany train wreck snarls service
      > > >
      > > > AMSTERDAM, N.Y. -- A CSX freight train
      > derailed in this
      > > > city's
      > > > downtown Wednesday morning (Oct. 12), sending
      > 18 cars off the
      > > > tracks
      > > > including one that landed partially in the
      > Mohawk River,
      > > > authorities
      > > > told the Albany Times Union.
      > > > The 84-car train mangled east- and
      > west-bound tracks when it
      > > > jumped the rails at 8:20 a.m., sending boxcars
      > slamming into each
      > > > other and forcing suspension of all freight and
      > passenger rail
      > > > traffic
      > > > between Albany and Syracuse. Several of the
      > cars narrowly missed a
      > > > warehouse owned by Terleckey Brothers, a local
      > trucking and tire
      > > > firm.
      > > >
      > > > The cars that derailed were from the
      > middle of the train,
      > > > which
      > > > originated in Cincinnati, and the two-member
      > crew was unharmed. The
      > > > train was bound for the Selkirk yard just south
      > of Albany.
      > > >
      > > > A data recorder was retrieved from the
      > train and
      > > > investigators
      > > > will use it to try to determine what caused the
      > wreck. "That
      > > > information will be downloaded very soon," CSX
      > spokesman Maurice
      > > > O'Connell said.
      > > >
      > > > He said the engineer would be tested for
      > alcohol and drug
      > > > consumption as investigators search for a cause
      > of the derailment,
      > > > which occurred at a switching point on the
      > eastbound tracks in this
      > > > Montgomery County city.
      > > >
      > > > The cause of the derailment remained
      > under investigation, and
      > > > CSX officials are expected to probe possible
      > driver error, flaws in
      > > > the tracks or some other problem.
      > > >
      > > > Ten of the cars that derailed were empty,
      > including the car
      > > > that
      > > > landed in the river. That car contained a
      > residue of ignet, a
      > > > powdery
      > > > substance O'Connell likened to aluminum.
      > Department of
      > > > Environmental
      > > > Conservation officials said there was no risk
      > of contamination from
      > > > the car that landed in the river.
      > > >
      > > > Other cars contained loads of the
      > nontoxic powder, wood pulp
      > > > and
      > > > soy bean oil, officials said.
      > > >
      > > > The derailment was the first in recent
      > memory in Amsterdam.
      > > > The
      > > > accident is dwarfed by a derailment that
      > occurred in Fonda in
      > > > December
      > > > 1995, when 51 cars were knocked off the rails.
      > One of those had
      > > > been
      > > > carrying sodium hydroxide that spilled into
      > nearby farmland and
      > > > forced
      > > > the evacuation of homes.
      > > >
      > > > "We were very lucky. This could have been
      > a passenger train,"
      > > > Battalion Chief Walter Martin of the Amsterdam
      > Fire Department said
      > > > as
      > > > he watched CSX cranes pull the mangled cars
      > from the tracks.
      > > >
      > > > Once the cars were pulled from the
      > tracks, O'Connell said CSX
      > > > would repair the rails and hoped to have
      > service restored by this
      > > > morning.
      > > >
      > > > Amtrak suspended most upstate service and
      > bused 917
      > > > passengers
      > > > whose trains were stranded on either side of
      > the derailment. The
      > > > effort was intended to allow the passengers to
      > connect with trains
      > > > in
      > > > Syracuse and Rensselaer, said James Turngren,
      > Amtrak's district
      > > > superintendent for the Empire Corridor.
      > > >
      > > > The derailment affected some service
      > between Rensselaer and
      > > > Albany on Wednesday because cars and engines
      > that normally would
      > > > have
      > > > made up those trains were trapped on the other
      > side of the state,
      > > > Turngren explained.
      > > >
      > > > While the railroad was hoping to run most
      > morning trains
      > > > between
      > > > Rensselaer and New York City today, some trains
      > would be canceled.
      > > > Turngren said the railroad was in the process
      > of calling as many
      > > > customers with reserved seats as possible to
      > update them on
      > > > schedule
      > > > changes.
      > > >
      > > > Turngren said Amtrak hopes to resume all
      > regular service by
      > > > Saturday.
      > > >
      > > > The derailment occurred in an
      > industrialized section of
      > > > Amsterdam, just east of the Route 30 bridge
      > that connects Amsterdam
      > > > to
      > > > Interstate 90.
      > > >
      > > > Steve Terleckey and Mary McDowell were
      > working in the office
      > > > at
      > > > Terleckey's firm when the train derailed.
      > Despite the proximity to
      > > > the
      > > > crash, they both said they didn't realize that
      > the sound they had
      > > > heard emanated from the derailment. Trains
      > routinely pass
      > > > unnoticed.
      > > >
      > > > Terleckey said he thought what he had
      > heard was the sound of
      > > > the
      > > > train slowing down. "It didn't sound terribly
      > different," he said.
      > > > They resumed work but then someone came in to
      > tell them a train had
      > > > derailed outside, McDowell said.
      > > >
      > > > "I went out to have a look. What a
      > terrible mess," she said.
      > > >
      > > > (This item appeared in the Albany Times
      > Union Oct. 13, 2005.)
      >
      === message truncated ===





      __________________________________
      Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005
      http://mail.yahoo.com
    • joseph Klapkowski
      That is exactly what I thought.
      Message 2 of 5 , Oct 14, 2005
        That is exactly what I thought.


        >From: "Stephen G. Myers" <Knixrule1@...>
        >Reply-To: FJGRailroad@yahoogroups.com
        >To: FJGRailroad@yahoogroups.com
        >Subject: [FJGRailroad] Amsterdam Wreck
        >Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 13:35:48 -0400
        >
        >
        >I read this and if I were not a railroad employee I would think that the
        >cause of the derailment was "driver" failure or drug and alcohol induced.
        > Very poor reporting. The cause was most likely a journal bearing
        >failure!
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 13:29:32 -0400 Gino's Railpage
        ><fjgrailroad@...> writes:
        > > Albany train wreck snarls service
        > >
        > > AMSTERDAM, N.Y. -- A CSX freight train derailed in this
        > > city's
        > > downtown Wednesday morning (Oct. 12), sending 18 cars off the
        > > tracks
        > > including one that landed partially in the Mohawk River,
        > > authorities
        > > told the Albany Times Union.
        > > The 84-car train mangled east- and west-bound tracks when it
        > > jumped the rails at 8:20 a.m., sending boxcars slamming into each
        > > other and forcing suspension of all freight and passenger rail
        > > traffic
        > > between Albany and Syracuse. Several of the cars narrowly missed a
        > > warehouse owned by Terleckey Brothers, a local trucking and tire
        > > firm.
        > >
        > > The cars that derailed were from the middle of the train,
        > > which
        > > originated in Cincinnati, and the two-member crew was unharmed. The
        > > train was bound for the Selkirk yard just south of Albany.
        > >
        > > A data recorder was retrieved from the train and
        > > investigators
        > > will use it to try to determine what caused the wreck. "That
        > > information will be downloaded very soon," CSX spokesman Maurice
        > > O'Connell said.
        > >
        > > He said the engineer would be tested for alcohol and drug
        > > consumption as investigators search for a cause of the derailment,
        > > which occurred at a switching point on the eastbound tracks in this
        > > Montgomery County city.
        > >
        > > The cause of the derailment remained under investigation, and
        > > CSX officials are expected to probe possible driver error, flaws in
        > > the tracks or some other problem.
        > >
        > > Ten of the cars that derailed were empty, including the car
        > > that
        > > landed in the river. That car contained a residue of ignet, a
        > > powdery
        > > substance O'Connell likened to aluminum. Department of
        > > Environmental
        > > Conservation officials said there was no risk of contamination from
        > > the car that landed in the river.
        > >
        > > Other cars contained loads of the nontoxic powder, wood pulp
        > > and
        > > soy bean oil, officials said.
        > >
        > > The derailment was the first in recent memory in Amsterdam.
        > > The
        > > accident is dwarfed by a derailment that occurred in Fonda in
        > > December
        > > 1995, when 51 cars were knocked off the rails. One of those had
        > > been
        > > carrying sodium hydroxide that spilled into nearby farmland and
        > > forced
        > > the evacuation of homes.
        > >
        > > "We were very lucky. This could have been a passenger train,"
        > > Battalion Chief Walter Martin of the Amsterdam Fire Department said
        > > as
        > > he watched CSX cranes pull the mangled cars from the tracks.
        > >
        > > Once the cars were pulled from the tracks, O'Connell said CSX
        > > would repair the rails and hoped to have service restored by this
        > > morning.
        > >
        > > Amtrak suspended most upstate service and bused 917
        > > passengers
        > > whose trains were stranded on either side of the derailment. The
        > > effort was intended to allow the passengers to connect with trains
        > > in
        > > Syracuse and Rensselaer, said James Turngren, Amtrak's district
        > > superintendent for the Empire Corridor.
        > >
        > > The derailment affected some service between Rensselaer and
        > > Albany on Wednesday because cars and engines that normally would
        > > have
        > > made up those trains were trapped on the other side of the state,
        > > Turngren explained.
        > >
        > > While the railroad was hoping to run most morning trains
        > > between
        > > Rensselaer and New York City today, some trains would be canceled.
        > > Turngren said the railroad was in the process of calling as many
        > > customers with reserved seats as possible to update them on
        > > schedule
        > > changes.
        > >
        > > Turngren said Amtrak hopes to resume all regular service by
        > > Saturday.
        > >
        > > The derailment occurred in an industrialized section of
        > > Amsterdam, just east of the Route 30 bridge that connects Amsterdam
        > > to
        > > Interstate 90.
        > >
        > > Steve Terleckey and Mary McDowell were working in the office
        > > at
        > > Terleckey's firm when the train derailed. Despite the proximity to
        > > the
        > > crash, they both said they didn't realize that the sound they had
        > > heard emanated from the derailment. Trains routinely pass
        > > unnoticed.
        > >
        > > Terleckey said he thought what he had heard was the sound of
        > > the
        > > train slowing down. "It didn't sound terribly different," he said.
        > > They resumed work but then someone came in to tell them a train had
        > > derailed outside, McDowell said.
        > >
        > > "I went out to have a look. What a terrible mess," she said.
        > >
        > > (This item appeared in the Albany Times Union Oct. 13, 2005.)
        > >
        > >
        > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
        > >
      Your message has been successfully submitted and would be delivered to recipients shortly.