Re: [FJGRailroad] Knox Gelatin & Pilot plows
- Paul, the traffic started almost immediately after the ramp was placed in
mid January of 1963. How long it continued I do not know. It might answer
the question to know the situation with the Glue Factory. It was in use
while I was there in 65 but how long after I can't say. What the railroad
did was take the north switch connecting the middle and the house tracks out
and placed the ramp at the north end of the middle or house 2. By
discontinuing the tracks north of the freight house another track was
removed from the Fulton Street crossing - from four to one.
The traffic wasn't glue but "glue stock," those remnants of the
slaughternouse process that had no other use, all in a soupy mess.
I think Canary Brothers near Vail Mills, may have unloaded a car or few of
farm machinery using the ramp. They were a steady customer of the railroad
over the years.
>From: Paul Charland <p.charlie@...>
>Subject: Re: [FJGRailroad] Knox Gelatin & Pilot plows
>Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 12:31:12 -0400
>Glue off the B&M, wonder why I thought this was Knox traffic!
>Have you any idea when the trailer traffic was running? I was surprised
>to find in one of the southbound pictures Gino posted that there was a
>switch in the location of the ramp in 1959.
>paul larner wrote:
> > Paul,
> > Those low trailers that arrived in Gloversville were the highway
> > for a lowest grade gondola. They carried glue stock for
> > locally known as the glue factory. The traffic was previously hauled in
> > gondolas and delivered on the team track at Townsend Ave. in Johnstown's
> > north end. A scoop would unload the cars into appropriate trucks. The
> > factory was located off Maple Ave. The trailers came from a B&M
> > Stories were told of carrying those gons in the train. A little rough
> > handling would send the slop over the sides and ends of the car, a trick
> > reserved by the engineer for particular groundmen. Generally they were
> > put ahead of the caboose for the obvious reasons - stink and flies.
> > Unfortunately the ramp didn't meet the hopes of the railroad. While it
> > facilitated the glue traffic, I don't recall any other regular users of
> > facility.
> > On another subject: I was researching the pilot plows used on the 21,
> > for verification than anything else. They were acquired in 1964 and
> > to the 21. They were not intended to be permanent as at that time the
> > ground crew used the pilot step (later outlawed) when switching and
> > The shop crew applied the plows in the fall and removed them as soon as
> > dared in the spring. My earliest photo of them in service is February
> > (1968.02.04 or 02-1968-04 [old system]).
> > Does anyone on the list have any dated photos of them in action
> > PKL