FW: RE: [FJGRailroad] Fonda Passing Siding?
- The rest of the story (and then some) without the huge attachment.
>I presume you are referring to the FJ&G and not the NYC. For the NYC there
>were changes and relocation in the years prior to the four tracking in
>The FJ&G had a track with switch next west of the turntable switch where a
>freight could clear the main for a passenger train. The north (west)
>switch of this track was on the bridge over the Cayadutta. A picture will
>save me a few dozen words; see attachment.
>How early this track listed as #2 was installed I would presume to be when
>the line was built. A small yard existed at Johnstown and Gloversville as
>well, but nowhere near the extent we recall. Prior to the NYC relocation I
>believe the FJ&G had at least one track that went across Center Street
>(articles exist referring to the FJ&G leaving cars to close and/or blocking
>part the street, a problem to the residents of Fonda). Today the former DO
>engine house sits on the location. I think the track was moved a bit to
>the north to fit the building on the site.
>When you look at some of the postcard northwest facing views of the front
>of the Fonda depot, you will see FJ&G equipment either working or sitting
>on these tracks. The more common card shows a freight engine tender facing
>east and the water tower further west. Another shows a coach and cars west
>of it (probably the coach used to provide service for Sammonsville
>There is a photo of a train using the coal company track being used to
>clear an opposing train and I am comfortable to say that the Knox,
>Fairgrounds and Hill Street tracks would have been used as well.
>The "siding" south of Mayfield, across the creek, was specifically built to
>meet the long passenger excursion trains during the summer months, but
>other than that I gather the freights simply ducked in wherever they could
>to clear scheduled trains. There is evidence of train order meets being
>made at Kingsboro and Sacandaga Park. The FJ&G definition for a siding was
>"a track auxiliary to the main track for meeting or passing trains, limited
>to the distance between two adjoining telegraph station." Thus it could
>effectively be any track that the dispatcher chose to use. Betwen trains
>of the same class the inferior train would use the "auxiliary" track, take
>After leaving the FJ&G to the VTR and then MEC, et seq., I had to relearn
>the use of the term "siding," to distinguish between them and "other"
>When the "dummy" (1st No. 4) was running between Gloversville and Johnstown
>or Fonda during the period 1875 and 1878, other trains had to stay out of
>its way - hauling a small coach, it made twenty two trips daily between
>Gloversville and Johnstown.
>I still had to get my 90 words in.
>>From: Paul Charland <p.charlie@...>
>>Subject: [FJGRailroad] Fonda Passing Siding?
>>Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 07:34:12 -0400
>>Does anyone know of a passing siding in Fond that may have been between
>>the station and Route 5... or maybe the bridge just before Route 5? The
>>employee's time table shows the first passenger running to Fond,
>>followed bu the first freight, then the passenger leaves Fond, and later
>>the freight departs. This would mean the freight passes the passenger
>>at Fond. This would either mean the passenger would have to back into a
>>siding somewhere in Fonda to let the freight into the yard, or there was
>>a passing siding at ot near the station where the two could meet.
- --- In FJGRailroad@yahoogroups.com, "Glenn J. Williams"
> --- In FJGRailroad@yahoogroups.com, "paul larner" <pklarner@h...>As an add-on to my own message, the spur can be seen in the Photos
> > [snip]
> > Walt or Glenn, do you remember if there was a track off the runner
> > east of the station between Center and Broadway?
> > PKL
> IIRC, there was a spur which serviced the GLF store by the Center
> Street crossing. There always seemed to be a box car there for un-
section, under file FondaNY83. Look at pictures 17, 18, and 19.